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  Poster country flags and privacy

  by Simon in

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  the new forum originally had a little country flag next to each post showing the country that the post was made from based on the geoip encoding (the country the ip address is from).

  before i switched over to the new site someone made an issue about it violating their privacy and i didn't want to complicate and confuse the switchover with policy debate at the same time as technical issues so removed the flags even though i disagreed.. someone has already requested it as a feature and i think it should be added back so i thought it's now time to open the discussion and get everyone's opinions.

  first, the reason i think it should be shown:.

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  Enough of the nonsense. Just make it OPTIONAL. Make it the individual members choice.
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  what DO current Jws say at doors?

  by sowhatnow in

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  2. beliefs

  i mean, anyone with a real bible and half a brain doesn't need to log onto a website and read nonsense.. its not a bible study when you present someone a book or magazine to read along in.. its not the gospel, when its not about jesus.

  so what is being pushed in the service meeting to be done at doors?.

  and with what result expected?

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  In the last year all they do is leave a tract in the mailbox at the end of the driveway, and they don't call here as frequently as they used to. They used to leave the WT/Awake insert with me.

  I left 20 years ago, and I moved into the country to a farm, not knowing until last year that my next door neighbors were JWs!!! They have moved now. I met the lady of the house a week before they moved.

  I ask my sister who is still in, what are they actually teaching in the Ministry School and Service Meeting? If I ask her a question on doctrine or beliefs and the changes, she says I should ask an elder?? Well aren't you a minister? I ask. Its weird. The GB must have their heads spinning around with all the new light, vague light, and no light from Brooklyn or Bethel, that they can't keep up or explain very much.
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  Will the evolutionists save us from the coming catastrophe?

  by abiather in

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  the earth's magnetic field is in a weakening stage right now.

  data collected this summer by a european space agency (esa) satellite suggests the field is weakening 10 times faster than scientists originally thought.

  if the magnetic field weakens enough, then the earth could be hit with dangerous amounts of solar radiation and cosmic rays .....

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  More of a concern regarding the ever decreasing output of energy from the sun in terms of sunspots and solar flux, is DECREASING global temperature.

  There seems to be a direct correlation between global temperatures and low solar activity. The present solar cycle 24, flux numbers compare closely with cycle 5 and the mini Ice Age period known as the Maunder minimum from 1645-1715, and the Dalton minimum 1780-1845, where there were prolonged periods of very low solar activity.
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  New Site Problems

  by The Searcher in

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  2. friends

  hi simon - i'd sent you an email regarding this problem;.

  i cannot see the captcha facility to enable me to prove i'm a humanzee and log-on.

  so i could not gain access to my account and participate - despite trying numerous suggestions provided on the internet.. i tried one last thing - i downloaded mozilla firefox (never tried it before) and it by-passes the captcha function and gives me access now.. i look forward to getting acquainted with the new-look web site.. thanks simon..

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  Given all the problems that so many have had on here now with the new site etc..can we conclude that this has all been a horrible mistake?
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  So the year the FDS(1919) got appointed, Jehovah said it was ok to celebrate Xmas?

  by hardtobeme in

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  After Mar 15 WT, who NOW is represented by the Wise Virgins??

  by hamsterbait in

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  2. beliefs

  it used to be that the master "arrived in 1918" and the virgins put their lamps in order.

  according to the noolite, the arrival is yet future.

  however, the gibbering buddies now insist that the annointed have not fallen asleep, but stayed awake up until now.

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  What a mess this is for the Jehoober GBers.

  They aren't separating the sheep and goats with the preaching work anymore, Jesus didn't arrive or come into the spiritual temple in 1918, there isn't an Evil slave now, and there aren't any Foolish or Wise virgins or the harvesting of the wheat and the weeds yet. And the GB is becoming "more discreet"??

  Their basic teachings are disintegrating. Many of us still remember studying the big yellow book, Gods Kingdom of a Thousand Years Has Approached.

  They used to equate the Foolish virgins with the Evil slave "class" as those of the Bible Stdents who didn't go along with Rutherfords reinvention of the society, held onto worldly false doctrine, and refused to go out and preach door to door.

  So they've thrown Russell Rutherford and Fred Franz under the bus now. Nuts.
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  The best way to debate JW's without being labeled an apostate

  by cookiemaster in

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  hey guys!

  here's what i found to be the best way (for me at least) to debate jw's without earning the laber of apostate.

  this is mostly valid when debating jw's that don't know you personally, but it could help with those that do too.

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  I found that bringing up the subject of sexual molestations in some congregations and how the Society has covered a lot of this up, and the whole 2 witness rule made the biggest impression on my mother and sisters who are still inside. My sister had to admit that this rule had to change. It wasn't justice, it wasn't right, and many so called brothers got away with all of this. But I could see by the looks in their faces that this subject hit them very hard. Much harder than any doctrinal point that I have ever tried to make with them.

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  HELP ME COMPILE A LIST OF DISCARDED WORDS AND PHRASES from the WTS

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in fort worth, texas around 1959. gradually i became aware of the argot.

  special, private language).

  jw's had these phrases they used over and over again.. upon first hearing, these words and phrases stood out as odd, weird or awkward.. however.

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  The Faithful and Discreet Slave Class

  Sermon for the Sunday Public Talk

  Vacation Pioneer now auxiliary pioneer

  I haven't seen the term Anointed Remnant much lately.

  The Separating Work..sheep and goats

  Vindication of Jehovahs name now Sancification

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  Convention new book reveals "GROUP 2" of the 1914 generation...the horror.

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. experiences

  gods kingdom rules!

  the convention book released yesterday....say hi to group 2 of the 1914 generation!!

  a graph shows group 1 being fred franz john barr etc...with a group 2 consisting of the current young faithful slaves we "met" the "group ones.

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  Thanks Listener.

  I should have written the generation that "ended" with Franz as the first generation. There are at least 2 generations of anointed prior to Franz that would have seen 1914 and 1919 and whose lives may have overlapped with Franzs. Including Rutherfords and Russells generation of anointed.

  The society wants to try and push everything forward, but if we legitimately push the beginning backwards, they will have no answer other than the usual nonsense.
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  Convention new book reveals "GROUP 2" of the 1914 generation...the horror.

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  gods kingdom rules!

  the convention book released yesterday....say hi to group 2 of the 1914 generation!!

  a graph shows group 1 being fred franz john barr etc...with a group 2 consisting of the current young faithful slaves we "met" the "group ones.

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  This topic has moved me to finally post on here. I am a born in that faded/left in 1996 but not for any doctrinal reason. It was the obvious lack of love there and absence of the so called spiritual paradise. So this is my first post on this forum. I had been a MS and my Dad was an elder.

  That being said, of course this whole overlapping generation new light and pointing to F Franz as the Group 1 generation would seem to me to have many flaws as have been pointed out here. One that I haven't read about lately is identifying this first generation of anointed. Even using the JW view, why would the 1st generation have started with Franz? Who decided that? We know who and why of course, but what about any anointed that were lets say 80 or 90 yrs old in 1920 for arguement sake? Those that were born in the 1830s or the 1840s ie a generation before Franz etc that lived to see and discern the signs of 1914 and who lived through the so called choosing of the faithful slave? They went along with Rutherfords take over etc and were considered by the society to be of the heavenly class. Are they throwing these under the bus too?

  The first generation of anointed should start with them, and really you could say that there are 2 generations of anointed prior to F Franz. That would make him an overlapper 2nd or 3rd generation anointed.

  Thanks guys.