Posts by Greener

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Poster country flags and privacy

by Simon in

the new forum originally had a little country flag next to each post showing the country that the post was made from based on the geoip encoding (the country the ip address is from).

before i switched over to the new site someone made an issue about it violating their privacy and i didn't want to complicate and confuse the switchover with policy debate at the same time as technical issues so removed the flags even though i disagreed.. someone has already requested it as a feature and i think it should be added back so i thought it's now time to open the discussion and get everyone's opinions.

first, the reason i think it should be shown:.

Greener

Simon you don't have to beg to be ignorant and make stupid remarks as you did your last post. Please go back to the padded room. Don't forget the meddys

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Poster country flags and privacy

by Simon in

the new forum originally had a little country flag next to each post showing the country that the post was made from based on the geoip encoding (the country the ip address is from).

before i switched over to the new site someone made an issue about it violating their privacy and i didn't want to complicate and confuse the switchover with policy debate at the same time as technical issues so removed the flags even though i disagreed.. someone has already requested it as a feature and i think it should be added back so i thought it's now time to open the discussion and get everyone's opinions.

first, the reason i think it should be shown:.

Greener

Witness my Fury

What you wrote about the farm makes my point.

I CHOSE to give out that information on this forum. But I have not CHOSEN or CONSENTED to have displayed my country of origin. Its that principle of CHOICE that I'm driving at here, and that the moderator is choosing to change the rules as he goes along. He has the CHOICE to have this information displayed or not, or make it optional.

Is it so off the wall to have a reasonable expectation of privacy here, as reasonable as that can be on a forum such as this, if we choose to? When a layer of that privacy/anonymity is removed arbitrarily, it deserves push back. Especially so with the manner that this is being crammed down our throats.

When I signed up to this site not that long ago, there was no hinting at displaying flags etc. The moderator knew the new site would have this option months in advance of the actual switchover. It rings of dishonesty. His attitude the same. Some on here are also clearly very uncomfortable with the flags, and our claims are simply dismissed as paranoia etc. His claims of programming difficulties with making it optional have been debunked, by other posts. Eden makes a great point regarding flags and country of origin.

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Poster country flags and privacy

by Simon in

the new forum originally had a little country flag next to each post showing the country that the post was made from based on the geoip encoding (the country the ip address is from).

before i switched over to the new site someone made an issue about it violating their privacy and i didn't want to complicate and confuse the switchover with policy debate at the same time as technical issues so removed the flags even though i disagreed.. someone has already requested it as a feature and i think it should be added back so i thought it's now time to open the discussion and get everyone's opinions.

first, the reason i think it should be shown:.

Greener

You have no right to display any information about me without my consent. I have not given you such consent. If you choose to change the rules, please remove me and all my posts, which are few in number from this website.

You are an unethical mess. Get some professional help EH

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Poster country flags and privacy

by Simon in

the new forum originally had a little country flag next to each post showing the country that the post was made from based on the geoip encoding (the country the ip address is from).

before i switched over to the new site someone made an issue about it violating their privacy and i didn't want to complicate and confuse the switchover with policy debate at the same time as technical issues so removed the flags even though i disagreed.. someone has already requested it as a feature and i think it should be added back so i thought it's now time to open the discussion and get everyone's opinions.

first, the reason i think it should be shown:.

Greener

You have no right to display anything about me, however you want to characterize this information and the minutia of it, without my consent. I have not given it to you. That is the issue, that you do not wish to address. Consent, and lack thereof here. You apparently will do whatever you want to do, regardless of the many legitimate concerns that have been raised by many. Oh you're just paranoid and I'd be pandering to you. No...its called doing the right thing.

Your so called arguments are meaningless to me. You drip with dishonesty. You have no morals or ethics then. Good for you, well done.

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Poster country flags and privacy

by Simon in

the new forum originally had a little country flag next to each post showing the country that the post was made from based on the geoip encoding (the country the ip address is from).

before i switched over to the new site someone made an issue about it violating their privacy and i didn't want to complicate and confuse the switchover with policy debate at the same time as technical issues so removed the flags even though i disagreed.. someone has already requested it as a feature and i think it should be added back so i thought it's now time to open the discussion and get everyone's opinions.

first, the reason i think it should be shown:.

Greener

"Can you, for instance, come up with a realistic example where someone has revealed enough information about themselves to identify who they are which cannot be done without the country?"

If someone CHOOSES to reveal enough information, then that is THEIR CHOICE. That is the PRINCIPLE here. You have no right to display the flag and reveal anything that I haven't given you permission to display here. Period.

"There are reasons not to make it a choice. I am loathe to overcomplicate the software just to possibly pander to the paranoia or game playing of a handful of people or implement features that are unique to a particular community (whose concerns I believe are misplaced)."

These are your own judgements on the arguments against. You are wrong, so we disagree. I am not paranoid.

So the choice can be written into the software, you are just choosing not to do it. Give it up then and let someone else do it then. Or.. just leave it as it is until you can have the choice written into the software. I don't see your argument for showing the flag as coherent, reasoned or fair and ethical. Where are your ethics? Where are your ethics? You are not showing any with your attitude about this. As was written before, this is a classic bait and switch. Dishonest lame nonsense.

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Poster country flags and privacy

by Simon in

the new forum originally had a little country flag next to each post showing the country that the post was made from based on the geoip encoding (the country the ip address is from).

before i switched over to the new site someone made an issue about it violating their privacy and i didn't want to complicate and confuse the switchover with policy debate at the same time as technical issues so removed the flags even though i disagreed.. someone has already requested it as a feature and i think it should be added back so i thought it's now time to open the discussion and get everyone's opinions.

first, the reason i think it should be shown:.

Greener

Many here are frustrated as this guy doesn't appear to be really listening or taking into account any of the very reasoned and well thought out arguments against the flags. He just repeats that HE is not convinced.

The bottom line for me is this. He never received my permission to display my country flag. So on principle, he shouldn't do it. Make the display a choice. Hello?

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Poster country flags and privacy

by Simon in

the new forum originally had a little country flag next to each post showing the country that the post was made from based on the geoip encoding (the country the ip address is from).

before i switched over to the new site someone made an issue about it violating their privacy and i didn't want to complicate and confuse the switchover with policy debate at the same time as technical issues so removed the flags even though i disagreed.. someone has already requested it as a feature and i think it should be added back so i thought it's now time to open the discussion and get everyone's opinions.

first, the reason i think it should be shown:.

Greener

Without contributing members, there is no forum.

Why not show respect to the members here, and make this a democratic decision? Have a month long poll here, with a clear question, and respect the result?

Playing god, the grand poohbah imperial president, or GB type won't cut it.

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Poster country flags and privacy

by Simon in

the new forum originally had a little country flag next to each post showing the country that the post was made from based on the geoip encoding (the country the ip address is from).

before i switched over to the new site someone made an issue about it violating their privacy and i didn't want to complicate and confuse the switchover with policy debate at the same time as technical issues so removed the flags even though i disagreed.. someone has already requested it as a feature and i think it should be added back so i thought it's now time to open the discussion and get everyone's opinions.

first, the reason i think it should be shown:.

Greener

Apparently Simon, you have already made up your mind about all of this? The vast majority who have responded here are against the flags. So what was the point of all this discussion. It seemed that there was a forgone conclusion. No one was going to change your view.

This is a completely arbitrary decision, and complete utter nonsense. You are morphing into the GB right here on this site. Shameful.

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Poster country flags and privacy

by Simon in

the new forum originally had a little country flag next to each post showing the country that the post was made from based on the geoip encoding (the country the ip address is from).

before i switched over to the new site someone made an issue about it violating their privacy and i didn't want to complicate and confuse the switchover with policy debate at the same time as technical issues so removed the flags even though i disagreed.. someone has already requested it as a feature and i think it should be added back so i thought it's now time to open the discussion and get everyone's opinions.

first, the reason i think it should be shown:.

Greener

Enough of the nonsense. Just make it OPTIONAL. Make it the individual members choice.

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what DO current Jws say at doors?

by sowhatnow in

i mean, anyone with a real bible and half a brain doesn't need to log onto a website and read nonsense.. its not a bible study when you present someone a book or magazine to read along in.. its not the gospel, when its not about jesus.

so what is being pushed in the service meeting to be done at doors?.

and with what result expected?

Greener

In the last year all they do is leave a tract in the mailbox at the end of the driveway, and they don't call here as frequently as they used to. They used to leave the WT/Awake insert with me.

I left 20 years ago, and I moved into the country to a farm, not knowing until last year that my next door neighbors were JWs!!! They have moved now. I met the lady of the house a week before they moved.

I ask my sister who is still in, what are they actually teaching in the Ministry School and Service Meeting? If I ask her a question on doctrine or beliefs and the changes, she says I should ask an elder?? Well aren't you a minister? I ask. Its weird. The GB must have their heads spinning around with all the new light, vague light, and no light from Brooklyn or Bethel, that they can't keep up or explain very much.