Posts by Greener

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The Watchtower Society is confused over its “Seventy Years” and "Seven Times"

by Doug Mason in

until now, the watch tower society [wts] has argued that the 70 years was a period during which judah was totally and completely depopulated.

for this reason, it constantly argued that the period commenced when the jews left judah and entered egypt.

jerusalem was destroyed in the fifth month (two months before october/tishri).

Greener

Doesn't the WTS say when they're backed into a corner, that "Bible Chronology" as they interpret it, trumps the secular historical records? ie. shut up and obey..we know better than you do?? Don't do your own research? I would say that that's IRONIC, seeing how wrong they have been with their previous false prophetic utterances. Oh yes..thats a sign that they have Gods spirit upon them...where else can they go???

I've never seen or read the WTS use the terms "alluding" or "ironic" or "poetic" in describing the Bible or the so-called historical Biblical record, when secular historical documentation in whatever form, disproves their theories or so-called prophetic utterances regarding the 7 times or 70 years or 1914. Those are your poor lame excuses for the WTS failed teachings. Its silly gobblygook.

ie. your opinion

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The Watchtower Society is confused over its “Seventy Years” and "Seven Times"

by Doug Mason in

until now, the watch tower society [wts] has argued that the 70 years was a period during which judah was totally and completely depopulated.

for this reason, it constantly argued that the period commenced when the jews left judah and entered egypt.

jerusalem was destroyed in the fifth month (two months before october/tishri).

Greener

Thank you Doug for the heads up about your website.

Wonderful information there.

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The Watchtower Society is confused over its “Seventy Years” and "Seven Times"

by Doug Mason in

until now, the watch tower society [wts] has argued that the 70 years was a period during which judah was totally and completely depopulated.

for this reason, it constantly argued that the period commenced when the jews left judah and entered egypt.

jerusalem was destroyed in the fifth month (two months before october/tishri).

Greener

Interesting. I do have the complete set of Russells Studies in the Scriptures and the Divine Plan of the Ages.

Heres a passage in Volume 3 regarding the Great Pyramid and various measurements of its interior, and its significance with the 1914 AD date:

"So, then, if we measure backward down the "First Ascending Passage" to its junction with the "Entrance Passage," we shall have a fixed date to mark upon the downward passage. This measure is 1542 inches, and indicates the year BC 1542, as the date at that point. Then measuring down the "Entrance Passage" from that point, to find the distance to the entrance of the "Pit," representing the great trouble and destruction with which this age is to close, when evil will be overthrown from power, we find it to be 3457 inches, symbolizing 3457 years from the above date, BC 1542. This calculation shows AD. 1915 as marking the beginning of the period of trouble; for 1542 years BC plus 1915 years AD. equals 3457 years. Thus the Pyramid witnesses that the close of 1914 will be the beginning of the time of trouble such as was not since there was a nation -- no, nor ever shall be afterward. And thus it will be noted that this "Witness" fully corroborates the' Bible testimony on this subject..."

Studies In The Scriptures, vol. 3 by Charles Taze Russell, copyright 1891

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Can't sign out

by Greener in

hey ,.

is this entrapment here?

i want to sign out, press the sign out button over and over.

Greener

Well I went into Internet options, Privacy and then chose clear sites. Then tried to sign out again. Doesn't work

Windows 7 here.

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Can't sign out

by Greener in

hey ,.

is this entrapment here?

i want to sign out, press the sign out button over and over.

Greener

Hey ,

Is this entrapment here? I want to sign out, press the sign out button over and over. It doesn't sign me out. Yes please..I want out ..

GGG

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The Watchtower Society is confused over its “Seventy Years” and "Seven Times"

by Doug Mason in

until now, the watch tower society [wts] has argued that the 70 years was a period during which judah was totally and completely depopulated.

for this reason, it constantly argued that the period commenced when the jews left judah and entered egypt.

jerusalem was destroyed in the fifth month (two months before october/tishri).

Greener

Interesting take on the JW month calculation being wrong for the beginning of the 70 years. There are broader issues here with the 7 times and when they began that they've gotten horribly wrong, that have greater implications for the basis and foundations of everything they believe.

What about the year? There is no archeological evidence for the 607 BCE date. 586/587 is the correct year. This has been debated on this site over and over again. But you have done research on this as well haven't you? What about the entire 2520 year reach that the Society has made? The 1914 date was originally contrived by Russell with measurements of the Great Pyramid in Giza Egypt. Once the Pyramid was discredited etc, the WTS had to find something in the Bible to fit their 1914 date. The classic making the Bible fit into their flawed belief here, rather than letting the scriptures explain themselves. Isn't that what they have been saying lately regarding the whole types and anti-type beliefs?

So its almost like a can't see the forest for the trees scenario here. I'm curious about what you actually believe about all of this, other than the month for the start of the 70 years. What about the date and the entire Society interpretation of this.

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MAJOR DOCTRINE CHANGE IN 1/15/2014 WT ON GENERATION TEACHING

by EndofMysteries in

the generation scripture no longer is speaking about 'the end'.

i'll quote it...... side note: tons of lies in this article, i'll point out at the end of the post.

"yet, jesus words at matthew 24:34 give us confidence that at least some of "this generation will by no means pass away" before seeing the start of the great tribulation.".

Greener

OK Splash thanks, they're really stretching things out.

I understand what you're saying. I made the mistake of trying to apply logic to this new light... For me then, whether you were 80 yrs old or 20 yrs old in 1914 or whenever, that's in reality 3 generations of people. I had an 80 yr old grandfather when I was 20 yrs old.

I can see why the majority of Jdubs today can't explain this or understand it, let alone provide any scriptural backing for this.

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MAJOR DOCTRINE CHANGE IN 1/15/2014 WT ON GENERATION TEACHING

by EndofMysteries in

the generation scripture no longer is speaking about 'the end'.

i'll quote it...... side note: tons of lies in this article, i'll point out at the end of the post.

"yet, jesus words at matthew 24:34 give us confidence that at least some of "this generation will by no means pass away" before seeing the start of the great tribulation.".

Greener

Why would the first generation of anointed ones start with those 18 yrs of age in 1914? There were earlier/older faithful anointed ones in 1914.

Shouldn't this first group begin then with earlier generations of anointed ones from for instance, Rutherfords generation and those prior to his? If one was a faithful anointed one, 75 years old in 1914, born in 1839, that would mean that we would presently be in the 3rd or 4th groups of overlappers, not the 2nd or 3rd. This interpretation as to the beginning of starting group of anointed who saw 1914, would blow up the present day JW explanation.

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Poster country flags and privacy

by Simon in

the new forum originally had a little country flag next to each post showing the country that the post was made from based on the geoip encoding (the country the ip address is from).

before i switched over to the new site someone made an issue about it violating their privacy and i didn't want to complicate and confuse the switchover with policy debate at the same time as technical issues so removed the flags even though i disagreed.. someone has already requested it as a feature and i think it should be added back so i thought it's now time to open the discussion and get everyone's opinions.

first, the reason i think it should be shown:.

Greener

LoveUniHateExams

You went to the trouble of going through my posting history, but apparently haven't actually read any/some of my posts in this topic. If you had, you would know what my issues are with this and in my case, it has nothing to do with being IDed by anyone

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Poster country flags and privacy

by Simon in

the new forum originally had a little country flag next to each post showing the country that the post was made from based on the geoip encoding (the country the ip address is from).

before i switched over to the new site someone made an issue about it violating their privacy and i didn't want to complicate and confuse the switchover with policy debate at the same time as technical issues so removed the flags even though i disagreed.. someone has already requested it as a feature and i think it should be added back so i thought it's now time to open the discussion and get everyone's opinions.

first, the reason i think it should be shown:.

Greener

Simon you don't have to beg to be ignorant and make stupid remarks as you did your last post. Please go back to the padded room. Don't forget the meddys