Posts by Balaamsass2

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Aftermath of being Reinstated

by TxNVSue2023 in

i'm in the process of being reinstated ( my df'ing story is on here).

because i've never been in this position before, i don't know how i will be treated once i'm reinstated.

i moved to a new city/state and i don't know a single person here or in my new congregation i am attending.

Balaamsass2

If... you really WANT to reinstated....each hall will be a little different.

Since most JW elders are not the world's most literate group...moving a few times (for work, sick parents, etc.) tends to improve the chances of records being lost and letters becoming more brief.

I have seen a number of people get reinstated and accepted over the years. Like with most any group, donating $$ visibly in the box by CHECK seems to help since a couple of brothers will see them and possibly discuss them. Visibly participating, spreading a bit of $$ around (meals, etc.), telling a few funny stories, G-rated jokes, and being generally low-key, and amicable.

Personally, as I have aged, I can no longer stomach kissing up to people I do not like or respect...it makes me ill.

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Could this be the end of JWs? What are the consequences if it is?

by Teddnzo in

multiple very serious allegations against tony and then huge efforts to remove him from all pictures and videos, have to admit it doesn’t look good.. once the pennsylvania investigation becomes public knowledge and front page news it will be very very hard for 8 million pimis.. is it possible that this could be the largest problem the branch has ever faced?

larger than 1975, the overlapping generations or any other ‘test of faith’.

many will feel heartbroken and betrayed.

Balaamsass2

People are people....and we have been tribal for many thousands of years. The mind can be a powerful prison.

I think the constant drum of bad publicity will simply demoralize the rank and file so they attend and contribute less and less. Younger members who use the internet will wake up and drift away.

This happened with Christian Science, Quakers, Shakers, and a number of other denominations in the USA.

It would be more gratifying if the Governing body were actually outed and convicted in a RICO-type investigation for evidence destruction and coverups, (like Jim and Tammy Baker for fraud) but I doubt we will see anything like that.

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Are Elders prepared to take the fall for WT/GB misdemeanor's / crime ??

by smiddy3 in

i have been thinking about this in relation to the directive given to elders to destroy any incriminating evidence they may have either on their pc`s ,e-mails , private notes in their possession, or notes in their witnessing bags ,etc.

to do with child sexual abuse they may still have in their possession.. isn`t that encouraging the elders to interfere with the justice system ?.

to break the law?.

Balaamsass2

One San Francisco Bay Area Elder was summarily disfellowshiped in absentia for truthful testimony on the witness stand a few years back. Direct orders from HQ. His orders were to lie ie: "theocratic strategy".

In the Pennsylvania Attorney General's investigations on Child abuse, one EX elder is singing like a canary about Watchtower's orders to destroy evidence. I hope Watchtower and the GB have conspiracy charges pressed "RICO".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obstruction_of_justice

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Blood Card Check

by NotFormer in

i remember many years ago that apparently there was an annual event where witnesses' blood cards (or whatever they're called) were checked by some visiting wt dignitary.

that the blood cards were current, and that the r&f were carrying them.. given the situation in some countries that kingdom halls can't legally keep data about people who have been visited, is the practice of checking and enforcing the carrying of blood cards similarly illegal in some places?.

are there any places where it is illegal for the hlc to set up camp near the hospital bed of a sick jw?.

Balaamsass2

In the 2 local cases, the elders kept the 3 sisters' identities secret from the accused. The accused had no idea how the elders got the information. One was an ex-elder's mistress's STD being treated and paid for by the married brother (JW intake clerks). The other was a single sister who got an abortion (JW in medical records).

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Can the org's finances be viewed?

by BoogerMan in

does anyone know where to view the wtbts of new york and pennsylvania's financial records?.

i mean, they are registered charities aren't they, so surely their income/expenditures must be open to scrutiny?.

Balaamsass2

https://www.gotoby.com/watchtower-buys-former-faa-training-facility-in-palm-coast-for-7025000/

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Can the org's finances be viewed?

by BoogerMan in

does anyone know where to view the wtbts of new york and pennsylvania's financial records?.

i mean, they are registered charities aren't they, so surely their income/expenditures must be open to scrutiny?.

Balaamsass2

It was a former FAA facility if I remember correctly.

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Can the org's finances be viewed?

by BoogerMan in

does anyone know where to view the wtbts of new york and pennsylvania's financial records?.

i mean, they are registered charities aren't they, so surely their income/expenditures must be open to scrutiny?.

Balaamsass2

Not Former, there were some threads on this a few years back. they should show up with a site search. The Bahamas Swiss branches are common knowledge just google it. (https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/100715/top-10-caribbean-tax-havens.asp).

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Do You Think Trump Is Done?

by minimus in

jw
friends

certain forces appear to be trying to make sure donald trump never runs for president again.

some republicans are clearly abandoning trump and of course the democratic press has been saying trump is done!

is trump’s goose cooked?

Balaamsass2

He may actually win the REPUBLICAN primary. I expect he will do his best to drag out the court hearings until after the General election. At 77 he may get a stroke or Heart attack from the stress and Mcdonald's burgers by then.

Almost a third of the electorate is voting independent now.

At 80 Biden may be dead or comatose with dementia by the general election.

A battle between the grumpy old men. It is a toss-up this early.

340 MILLION AMERICANS and these two are the choice........ :(

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Blood Card Check

by NotFormer in

i remember many years ago that apparently there was an annual event where witnesses' blood cards (or whatever they're called) were checked by some visiting wt dignitary.

that the blood cards were current, and that the r&f were carrying them.. given the situation in some countries that kingdom halls can't legally keep data about people who have been visited, is the practice of checking and enforcing the carrying of blood cards similarly illegal in some places?.

are there any places where it is illegal for the hlc to set up camp near the hospital bed of a sick jw?.

Balaamsass2

Yes it is a major violation of HIPA with fines, but it is not uncommon. (Hard to prove).

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Anthony Morris the III has been FOUND

by Terry in

jw
friends

note: photos can be found on the blue envelope channelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nakezkhqbmtony and susan morris are living in lumberton, north carolina.

a real estate document on the robeson county website is filed:.

the religious order of jehovah's witnesses has provided a "life estate" for them.they can live in this townhouse until they are deceased or choose to move away and in either case the ownership becomes entirely the property of jehovah's witnesses.

Balaamsass2

If you send a card...and want a response hide a $20 in the card or letter. :) Works on most Bethelites.

Don't forget Tony will get Social Security for him and his wife. He worked for at least 10 years. Perhaps around $1600 mo. combined.

He gets free Medicare A. He gets free medical at the VA as well, and help with a retirement home placement.

If their income is below federal poverty guidelines they will get a couple of hundred in food stamps.

He will probably get a special pioneer stipend from Watchtower.

The Society will send a letter to the local hall and building committee requesting free yard and building maintenance.

No need to feel sorry for him, he created a lot of stress and grief for thousands of people he wanted "roasted like a hot dog".

I imagine he will get many visits from Process Servers to testify. He is easier to serve than anyone at headquarters.