Posts by Balaamsass2

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SCHEMING TO END YOUR MARRIAGE NOW AS BAD AS APOSTASY

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/-yvykw37rzo?si=vwokohrdq2b53fmh.

by now, it should be painfully obvious that we live in a post tonny morris era where the floods of organizational changes have become possible and a new version of the religion, some have called it warchtower 2.0 is emerging with a soft approach to disfellowshipping practices across the board for all those sinners.

nevertheless 3 groups of people will still be targeted for harsh excommunication, we know the first two well :csa perpetrators and apostates.

Balaamsass2

Another Watchtower unscriptural official marital "out"...was the proof of adultery rule: If two people JWs, are seen entering a hotel and not leaving for a couple of hours...the "innocent mate" becomes scriptural free." adultery becomes proven. lol

What if they are gay (same sex)? What if the WORK at a hotel? lol.

A Silicon Valley elder tired of his hardworking Holiday Inn, night shift Manager wife, divorced her and re-married claiming he met the Service desk's requirement!!!! She was horrified and denied anything ever happened. What did Watchtower and his elder friends decide?

So he remained an elder and was congratulated on his new marriage.

Since she denied everything, and he had not an inch of proof she remained in "good standing". But was now divorced, and the rank and file assumed she cheated...and shunned her.

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Will I be disfellowshippwd

by Sydney in

y'all i am an unmedicated bipolar.

i had a mania streak and slept with my bf who is of the world.

i am pregnant from this.

Balaamsass2

1. See your medical doctor ASAP for your well-being and the baby's.

2. Run don't walk to see a....psychiatrist... who can diagnose and prescribe medication...if safe for the baby.

3. Do you have a support system and safe place?

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To those JW's at age 10 and above who read it, understood it, got played, and survived. 😇

by was a new boy in

everybody plays the fool.

lyrics.

'okay, so your heart is brokenyou sit around mopin'cryin' and cryin'you say you're even thinkin' about dyin'well, before you do anything rash, dig this.

Balaamsass2

29

To those JW's at age 10 and above who read it, understood it, got played, and survived. 😇

by was a new boy in

everybody plays the fool.

lyrics.

'okay, so your heart is brokenyou sit around mopin'cryin' and cryin'you say you're even thinkin' about dyin'well, before you do anything rash, dig this.

Balaamsass2

29

To those JW's at age 10 and above who read it, understood it, got played, and survived. 😇

by was a new boy in

everybody plays the fool.

lyrics.

'okay, so your heart is brokenyou sit around mopin'cryin' and cryin'you say you're even thinkin' about dyin'well, before you do anything rash, dig this.

Balaamsass2

29

To those JW's at age 10 and above who read it, understood it, got played, and survived. 😇

by was a new boy in

everybody plays the fool.

lyrics.

'okay, so your heart is brokenyou sit around mopin'cryin' and cryin'you say you're even thinkin' about dyin'well, before you do anything rash, dig this.

Balaamsass2

Who can forget the late 60s release of the "Truth book" and the 6-month bible study push. The END was too close to take a year or more to get baptized we were at the tippy tip of the end of this system!!!!! I would never graduate from high school, have kids, get married, or hold a job in this old system.

To disagree verbally or by deed was to be shunned by family, friends, and the congregation. Buy or build a home? Have kids? = a whisper campaign.

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SCHEMING TO END YOUR MARRIAGE NOW AS BAD AS APOSTASY

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/-yvykw37rzo?si=vwokohrdq2b53fmh.

by now, it should be painfully obvious that we live in a post tonny morris era where the floods of organizational changes have become possible and a new version of the religion, some have called it warchtower 2.0 is emerging with a soft approach to disfellowshipping practices across the board for all those sinners.

nevertheless 3 groups of people will still be targeted for harsh excommunication, we know the first two well :csa perpetrators and apostates.

Balaamsass2

Watchtower invented the entire blueprint. The original "Family book" added "Spiritual endangerment" as a reason for "scriptural" divorce and re-marriage.

What is spiritual endangerment? Well, it was a nebulous excuse...that became whatever people and a couple of elders decided it was.

Perhaps someone yelled. Missed meetings. Rolled their eyes about "new light". Want sex a particular way...or frequency? Didn't earn enough money? Worked too much or too little? Was not a spiritual leader?

A divorce or separation would follow. The "endangerer" eventually got lonely or horny, dated, was simply alone for a few hours with someone, or had sex...and voila! The one claiming they had been " endangered" became "scripturally free" with the congregation elders and service departments' blessings to remarry.

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When did JWS start disfellowshipping and why?

by lettersfromthevoid in

i know this question has been discussed, but i can't find the topic i was just looking at, so.... one thing about this is that the other posters here didn't mention, that i noticed anyway, that there was this member of the gb in the 40s and early 50s (but possibly during rutherford) who was at odds with rutherford or knorr, and they wanted to do away with them, so they accused (falsely) that person, then they declared that the punishment for that sin was something they invented, or at least once iteration of, what we know as the modern disfellowshipping practice among jws.. so, that is why they invented that doctrine; they.

Balaamsass2

When Rutherford grabbed the reigns of Watchtower upon Russel's death he kicked scads of Bethelites and others to the curb, accusing anyone who wouldn't accept him, as an "Apostate". Effectively "Disfellowshipping" them 1916-17.

Both 3rd gen's mom and mine told stories of wild stuff going on in the 1940s by even the Circuit Overseers that instituted the formal policies in the beginning of the 1950s by Knorr (1952?).

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Is there really a Bible rule against sex without marriage?

by Halcon in

regarding the poster from jw headquarters, who claimed that the gb would eventually loosen the rules regarding sex.

the question is, is there really a bible rule explicitly prohibiting sex without marriage?

because this would be the only possible reason why loosening those rules would even come up in a discussion.

Balaamsass2

So if GB 3.0 is trying to add/retrieve more donating members...

Will they- gb 3.0 be tossing the 1972 (ish) Ray Franz research on "porneia"?

Returning to the 1960s view of "petting" vs "heavy petting"?

More tolerant of Gays and NPGs...non-practicing gays(trying at least)? As in pre-1975 ish Bethel and GB 1.0 (Chitty, etc)?

There does seem to be a trend.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/06/23/5-key-findings-about-lgbtq-americans/

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The "10 Year Plan" - What is the realistic outcome?

by redsetter2 in

as there has been some discussion calling bs on this topic, .

i will paste the text from my 10 year plan post and i will critically evaluate how i feel things will turn out.

i will add bold italics my thoughts.. the governing body has a 10-year marketing plan to remodel the organization to become closer to a mainstream christian religion.

Balaamsass2

Will they- gb 3.0 be tossing the 1972 (ish) Ray Franz research on "porneia"?

Returning to the 1960s view of "petting" vs "heavy petting"?

More tolerant of Gays? As in pre-1975sBethel and GB 1.0?

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/06/23/5-key-findings-about-lgbtq-americans/