There are laws about it...but little to no enforcement. Most public filings from USA Religions appear to be bogus...especially Watchtower. "Theocratic strategy" AKA: Lies.
Balaamsass2
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Is this true?
by BoogerMan in"the watch tower society does not file any publicly accessible financial figures.".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/watch_tower_bible_and_tract_society_of_pennsylvania.
if so, are american charities totally free from scrutiny by the authorities & donors?.
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ARTICLE: Jehovah’s Witnesses investing more than $50M on Woodbury project
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://libn.com/2024/03/04/jehovahs-witnesses-investing-more-than-50m-on-woodbury-project/.
long island business news.
march 4, 2024. the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses, which bought the former geico property in woodbury for $27 million in dec. 2022, plans to spend at least another $23 million to build an assembly hall and two support buildings on about half of the site.
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Balaamsass2
I had a relative who was a CO and Branch Overseer years ago.
He advised me years ago to copy what Watchtower does...not what they say... I asked what he meant... he replied..."they plan real estate investments and projects years into the future." "They have hundreds of Bethelites remodeling...not pioneering." That was 40 years ago...I should have listened to him....not Watchtower.
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New light on shunning?
by Mikejw inone theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.
he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .
what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.
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Balaamsass2
It does appear GB 3.0 is trying to head off trouble at the pass.
Today's "confidential" (lol :) ) letter to all Elders (Thank you Atlantis) is to be read after the GB online announcements. Regarding disfellowshipping for adults...and children. #1. "..6. When meeting with a Christian who has become involved in serious wrongdoing, the goal of the committee is to ‘lead the sinner to repentance.’ (Rom. 2:4) The committee may decide that it would be appropriate to meet more than once with the wrongdoer in order to reach his heart. Meeting with him more than once will allow time for the individual to grasp the gravity of his wrongdoing and its effect on his relationship with Jehovah, and most important, to repent and ask Jehovah for his forgiveness. (Ps. 51:1-4; Prov. 28:13) Meeting with him more than once will also allow the committee to try to reach the individual’s heart by means of the Scriptures. 7. By skillful use of the Scriptures, the committee should try to reach the wrongdoer’s heart and lead him to repentance. If through your efforts Jehovah gives the individual repentance, this is a cause for rejoicing. (Luke 15:7; 2 Tim. 2:25; 2 Pet. 3:9) In such cases, appropriate restrictions will be temporarily imposed. If the wrongdoing is widely known or likely to become known, a brief announcement of the reproof can be made to the congregation. Restrictions should be viewed as temporary and should be removed without delay as the individual makes a spiritual recovery. Of course, with certain kinds of wrongdoing—such as child abuse, apostasy, and scheming to end a marriage—restrictions will need to be in place much longer. (sfl chap. 12 pars. 10-12; chap. 14 pars. 22-24) Whatever the case, the elders will also provide shepherding so that the individual can keep making straight paths for his feet."
Boom...it appears the old: "tell us".. "How many times you did the nasty?"..."for how long?"..."did you enjoy it?...etc. etc.." So this was repeated unrepentant sin over a period over time?.... is.... over.
#2. Now PARENTS are to be included during a minor's judicial investigation..with only 2 elders...attempting to CHANGE the minor's attitude and behavior...rather than trying to gain sufficient evidence to boot them. Multiple meetings can be held this way.
With 2/3 of self-described "JWS" "inactive or former" per the PEW studies, no doubt GB 3.0 thinks more ex-dubs will return...and donate again. $$$$$$$$$ ??
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Forget 1914, the 1975 generation are now passing away!
by nowwhat? inwe still have quite a few elderly here that came in as young families in the late 1960's-early 70's because soon, yes very soon they would enter the new system and never grow old.
it's now one year away from 50 years since 1975. just in the last couple years i've seen them come down with alzheimer's, cancer, brain tumors, becoming invalid etc.
the children of them that are now around 60 are just so distraught at seeing their parents deteriorate.
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Forget 1914, the 1975 generation are now passing away!
by nowwhat? inwe still have quite a few elderly here that came in as young families in the late 1960's-early 70's because soon, yes very soon they would enter the new system and never grow old.
it's now one year away from 50 years since 1975. just in the last couple years i've seen them come down with alzheimer's, cancer, brain tumors, becoming invalid etc.
the children of them that are now around 60 are just so distraught at seeing their parents deteriorate.
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Forget 1914, the 1975 generation are now passing away!
by nowwhat? inwe still have quite a few elderly here that came in as young families in the late 1960's-early 70's because soon, yes very soon they would enter the new system and never grow old.
it's now one year away from 50 years since 1975. just in the last couple years i've seen them come down with alzheimer's, cancer, brain tumors, becoming invalid etc.
the children of them that are now around 60 are just so distraught at seeing their parents deteriorate.
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Forget 1914, the 1975 generation are now passing away!
by nowwhat? inwe still have quite a few elderly here that came in as young families in the late 1960's-early 70's because soon, yes very soon they would enter the new system and never grow old.
it's now one year away from 50 years since 1975. just in the last couple years i've seen them come down with alzheimer's, cancer, brain tumors, becoming invalid etc.
the children of them that are now around 60 are just so distraught at seeing their parents deteriorate.
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Forget 1914, the 1975 generation are now passing away!
by nowwhat? inwe still have quite a few elderly here that came in as young families in the late 1960's-early 70's because soon, yes very soon they would enter the new system and never grow old.
it's now one year away from 50 years since 1975. just in the last couple years i've seen them come down with alzheimer's, cancer, brain tumors, becoming invalid etc.
the children of them that are now around 60 are just so distraught at seeing their parents deteriorate.
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Forget 1914, the 1975 generation are now passing away!
by nowwhat? inwe still have quite a few elderly here that came in as young families in the late 1960's-early 70's because soon, yes very soon they would enter the new system and never grow old.
it's now one year away from 50 years since 1975. just in the last couple years i've seen them come down with alzheimer's, cancer, brain tumors, becoming invalid etc.
the children of them that are now around 60 are just so distraught at seeing their parents deteriorate.
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Petition against Ostracism Practiced by Jehovah's Witnesses
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://peticaopublica.com.br/pview.aspx?pi=br137007.
petition against ostracism practiced by jehovah's witnesses.
public petition: against ostracism practiced by jehovah's witnesses.
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Balaamsass2
Thanks for starting this thread Barb.
The "confidential" :) letter to Elders today seems to reflect many of the abuse issues brought up by the USA and European authorities.
Highlighted section from the Atlantis post:
"WHAT IF A BAPTIZED MINOR (UNDER 18 YEARS OF AGE) BECOMES INVOLVED IN SERIOUS WRONGDOING? 8. When a baptized minor becomes involved in serious wrongdoing, two elders (not a committee) will meet with him along with his Christian parent(s) or legal guardian(s). The elders will exercise patience as they work with the parents to understand the minor’s attitude. They will also find out what steps the parents have taken to assist their child. 9. If the minor has a good attitude and the parents have the matter in hand, the two elders may determine that it is not necessary for the minor and his Christian parent(s) or legal guardian(s) to meet with a committee. The elders will check with the parents periodically to ensure that the minor is receiving needed spiritual assistance. 10. If the minor’s wrongdoing is widely known or likely to become known, the following brief announcement may be made to the congregation: “A matter involving [name of person] has been handled by the elders.” Also, the two elders may impose some temporary restrictions, such as not commenting at meetings and not caring for student assignments on the midweek meeting. As the individual makes a spiritual recovery, the temporary restrictions should be removed by the two elders without delay. 11. If the minor persists in a wrong course despite the assistance offered by two elders and his Christian parent(s) or legal guardian(s), a committee will meet with the minor and his Christian parent(s) or legal guardian(s). If the minor is unrepentant, he would be removed from the congregation. 12. What about minors who are currently disfellowshipped? The committee involved with the disfellowshipping can meet with the minor and his Christian parent(s) or legal guardian(s) to see how the minor is doing. If the minor has abandoned his sinful course and has a good attitude and if the parent(s) or legal guardian(s) have the matter in hand, an announcement can be made that the minor has been reinstated. The elders would impose temporary restrictions, such as not commenting at meetings and not caring for student assignments on the midweek meeting. Thereafter, two elders from the committee will monitor the minor’s spiritual progress so that the restrictions may be removed in keeping with his spiritual progress. If the minor is an apostate or is promoting serious wrongdoing, the committee would not meet with the minor and his Christian parent(s) or legal guardian(s). If the minor was disfellowshipped by a committee in another congregation, the elders should follow the direction in the Shepherd book, chapter 19, paragraphs 13-16. 13. What about individuals who were disfellowshipped as minors but who are now adults? Such ones can be visited as the elders reach out to disfellowshipped ones."