Posts by sowhatnow

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How Often Do You Come To JWN? How Often Do You Post?

by minimus in

jw
friends

do you check this site, daily?.

do you post very much?.

.

sowhatnow

i view what posts seem to catch my eye , and when i rememember, like once or twice a week? i forget. post a reply on teh ones i choose to read.

i look for updates on info, so i can keep on top of things for now anyway.

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WT for this Sunday...You are My Witnesses

by Legacy in

wt 7/15/2014....page 27...question # 17...what will we consider in the next article...paragraph 17...but how can we be jehovah witnesses and at the same time be witnesses of jesus....well well well...i think they really got the point...all through the greek scriptures, that's what jesus has been saying...we are to witness about him....in the hebrews scriptures was about jehovah god, most of the world got that.

now jehovah, put another spoke in the wheel his son...jesus...that's who paul has been talking about all along...that he was witness of jesus, paul knew who god was.

i think the society monitors sites like these & others & found out....they may have been, uh...wrong....wonder how are they going to spin this one off....i won't read the next article just yet... comments anyone ..... legacy.

sowhatnow

gee vanderhoven7, can i copy and paste your reply [just the scriptures of course ]

and email it to a freind?

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WT for this Sunday...You are My Witnesses

by Legacy in

wt 7/15/2014....page 27...question # 17...what will we consider in the next article...paragraph 17...but how can we be jehovah witnesses and at the same time be witnesses of jesus....well well well...i think they really got the point...all through the greek scriptures, that's what jesus has been saying...we are to witness about him....in the hebrews scriptures was about jehovah god, most of the world got that.

now jehovah, put another spoke in the wheel his son...jesus...that's who paul has been talking about all along...that he was witness of jesus, paul knew who god was.

i think the society monitors sites like these & others & found out....they may have been, uh...wrong....wonder how are they going to spin this one off....i won't read the next article just yet... comments anyone ..... legacy.

sowhatnow

ooo, please someone be brave and go to the khall and make the comment at the meeting.... lol !

we are not witnesses of jehovah , the israelites were we are not wittnesses of Jesus, jesus said that to his apostles. I guess people who follow pauls ideas would be paulines? er , christains. but we would be no ones wittnesses. maybe witnesses of todays governments or the world?

when i read anything from the wt now, i have an anxiety attack. its senseless and has no point.

theyre so damn confusing and are just totally made up.

however Im pretty sure the writters of the watchtowers use david guzics commentary for material, his writting style and explinations

have very similar sound and once article a while back seemed like they had almost copied and pasted some of his actuall content

my mom made a point of telling me to go to the wt site and read the latest awake, Isaid to her, gee mom where is the positive happy bible topics? people already know the world sucks. they want good news.

all i hear is satan and the end and woe and doom. who wants that?

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A rose by any other name..............

by sparrowdown in

jw
friends

i'm curious, why and how did you choose your username?.

does it hold any special significance for you, is there a share-able back story?.

for me sparrowdown is a playful reference to matt 10:29 and the title of the movie black hawk down.. matt 10:29 was my go-to scrip to "prove" that god cares about us as individuals.

sowhatnow

sowhatnow, was an easy pick for me, because

thats my unanswered question. lol. Im just living each day as it comes basically.

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Why do people support abusers in the NFL?

by Simon in

i really don't get it.. in most sports in most countries your career is rightly over if you commit certain crimes.. but not in the good old nfl !.

it seems players can rape, beat women, abuse children, fight dogs ... and they will not only be allowed to play but they will have an army of fans wearing their names on their shirts and cheering them on.. the abuse and arrogant attitudes seem to exist at all levels - it seems like there is an endless feed of news stories where some high-school or college football players have abused or raped girls and they end up being allowed back to play and people rallying round as though *they* are the victims.. surely, whatever someone's skills as an athlete are, there are some things that simply can't be excused?.

or is winning truly 'everything' and it doesn't matter the cost?.

sowhatnow

probably depends on whos going to loose the most money . its all about the money.

and what do we say about money?

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should i marry and have a child with my partner

by stevepill in

hi, iv'e been a regular observer on this site for a while and would be very grateful for input from witnessess and non-witnessess.

ti widll try keep it brief to avoid too much reading!.

background:.

sowhatnow

this is a discussion you need to have before you get any more involved.

if this discussion becomes heated or uncomfortable, I do advise that you walk away.

as hard as it may seem, all the concerns that you have are real, and this is what women call intuition.

shes trying to trap you into a permanant relationship. dont think for a moment that she doesnt have it in the back of her mind tha tyou will follow her

no matter where she goes. when she has a child, If any of her relatives[or close freinds] are witnesses you better believe she will go to the kingdom hall. Ive lived this expereince. thats where her support will come from.

you have to be on the same page from the get go, so that you both are in agreement about raising children.

tread carefully.

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New Leaflet to give to JW about TTATT

by TJ Curioso in

hi to all my fellows "apostates" in all world... especially in e.u.a.

and uk.. as some of you already know, ex-jw in portugal created a leaflet especialy to send to jw in all the country (individualy or to congregations).

we must say that it was a sucess from the point of view of the impact originated.

sowhatnow

oh my , but we cant be seen with such apostate lituriture! well be misled! oh your so bad though, wanting followers of your own thinking, lies lies.....

and starting your own religion,

my mother would throw garlic at me ,

lol

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How would you answer?

by punkofnice in

a friend of mine (who is waking up), recently had the elders do a sheep herding visit.. they were browbeating my friend about attending meetings.

my friend has been ill and unable to attend anyway.. what response would you give to this garbage?.

if we were in a house and it was on fire and we couldnt walk we would have to crawl.. an example of a sister with an iron lung was brought up to show that if shes in this condition, we need to examine ourselves.

sowhatnow

wow what bullying. so they have went there not to see how she is doing and ask if they can help, they went for no other reason than to see why shes not in attendance.

what happened to al lthe articles about how were NOT supposed to compare ourselves to others? that we all have different levels of abilities and emotional makeup? that were supposed to be supportive NOT accusitory? all the good in the messages go out the window huh?

the lack of empathy and human logic that so many people have developed from these twisted teachings boggles my mind. and oh

yes I have heard from the platform, using the ONE scripture about not forsking the gathering , bla bla bla, taking it way out of context

as the command to be at meetings. fear monger much?

wow a command from a simple follower of jesus. i thought only God could make commands? who said this was a command? its no command.

maybe from the org. and gee, scientology much?

she doesnt need any more emotional bullying from men and thier warped reasoning. she doesnt have to answer the door or the phone. what are they going to do about it?

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My jw mum threw us out.

by abbasgreta in

my brother (non-jw but became a christian 6 months ago) and i nursed my aged jw mother back to a semblance of strength over the last three weeks.. the elders were happy to pass the buck on to me, her da'd daughter and my bro.. he has been living with her for 3 months and has transformed her ill-kept home and garden and literally nursed her like a professional alone.

before i stepped in to help him care for her.

he repeatedly told her how much he loved her and was so caring, it brought a lump to my throat.. he has been going to church sunday mornings, telling her he 'was meeting up with friends' so as not to cause friction.but she knew where he had been.. we noticed a shift in her demeanour towards us (she knows i'm a church-goer) over the week-end and she started to.

sowhatnow

I feel so bad for all those who like myself have aged parents to have to deal with. Id say that you have been left no choice but to send her to a aged care home, shes a threat to your safety. and probably hers, as if she tries to strike someone with that cane she can fall or break a bone. no one should be abused by anyone no matter how old they are. no parent in thier right mind would want to see thier children grow up to be subjected to such a burden.

i hope your brother doesnt take it personally, nor you, but no matter its so hard on everyone involved. my heart goes out to you two.

My parents are age 73 and 75, they are both constantly critical of everyone, and crabby to the hilt. I get sick thinking about what I m going to do with my paarents, my younger brother and sister [not jws] and I are not in a position to care for them, we all have health issues and all three of us are in relationships with people who my parents critisize and are not comfortable with.

my sister spends the most time with my parents, and she sees how bad my parents mental state is.

shes so stressed about it shes beside herself as to what to do.

I myself have often thought that Id certainly be off the caretaker list the moment I send a letter to the elder body resigning from the jw faith.

would that be selfish? but id probaby not be so lucky my mother is a preaching pest, shed not let me go.

I have been a jw most of my life[age 5] and im 52 now. but now not being at meetings for about 7 months Im still off the radar.so i can pull the letter 'card' out If I wanted to. and at least for the time being my mother would have to 'listen' to the elders and not talk to me.

but honestly my mother and dad depend on me so much I doubt that shed follow protocol anyway shed find a way to use my father as a reason to have me helping them, shed say ' well my husband is not a baptised JW so if he calls her I cant do anyting about it'. she always used my dad this way. and yet claims shes such a christain. oh well, lol, who is huh?

my husband who is not a jw says my parents are not moving in with us no matter what. my mother wouldnt anyway, she feels uncomfortable around him to begin with. Id love for my parents to sighn a do not recusitate order to carry in thier wallet, for one thing my father has a badheart to begin with, and my mothers mind is already showing signs of alzheimers. I watched my grandmother with that desease, and i cant go through that.

I feel strongly the reason we have all these aged people living in misery is becasue the medical establishment keeps bringing them back to life whe n they should have passed on, so they can make millions off them.

and in the mean time they are destroying families, all the children whos parents are taking care of mentally disabled wheelchair ridden adults instead of spending joyfull days with thier children and grandchildren , makes me very angry.

that so many of us go from taking care of children, possible also working full time, straight to taking care of crabby ass parents or husbands or wives , and have never had a moment to do anything enjoyable for ourselves.

really then what point is life?

however,

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Prediction of large drop in JW numbers in 2014

by VM44 in

i am going to make the prediction, here and now in mid 2006, that there will be a significant drop in the number of jehovah's witnesses in the year 2014, the one hundredth anniversary of 1914.. the only way this drop in numbers might be avoided is if the watchtower society can think up some way to stir up the rank and file and get them motivated to do more, like they did with the 1975 fiasco.. .

i doubt very much that the watchtower magazine is going to proclaim loudly in the year 2014 anything about the "generation of 1914" not passing away.. --vm44

sowhatnow

hey guys, my aunt in florida who is a jw said they will not be having any more two day assemblies. hmm

and lol, one eyed joe, elders are after all supposed to be elder 'ly' right?

who ever would request a person under the age of 40 be an 'elder' is an idiot. the village elders were the older men who had the knowlege of the tribal

rituals, probably not much else, they certainly werent sitting behind a curtain listening to sins..