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  which book says it?

  by sowhatnow in

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  my mom seems to railroad me into a debate at least once a week.. anyway long story short,.

  she says 'there is no where in the literture that the wt writers claimed that a specfic year it was going to be armageddon.. well i thought there was, and id like to print it or show it to her, i have some older books but not many.. so, is there?

  i told her that the wt claimed that 1975 was going to be the end, she said no, they said that was the beginning of the tribulation.. wow, she forgot about the most recent article ablout that already!.

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  wow thanks all!!
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  which book says it?

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my mom seems to railroad me into a debate at least once a week.. anyway long story short,.

  she says 'there is no where in the literture that the wt writers claimed that a specfic year it was going to be armageddon.. well i thought there was, and id like to print it or show it to her, i have some older books but not many.. so, is there?

  i told her that the wt claimed that 1975 was going to be the end, she said no, they said that was the beginning of the tribulation.. wow, she forgot about the most recent article ablout that already!.

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  somehow i can be talking to my mother about a tossed salad and somehow she ends up preachng at me.

  i dont bring anything about religion up and yet she 'spins' it in that direction. shes 72. shes done no research even using the jw publications.

  shes so coufused she makes me chucle, things paul said she claims jesus said. and shes so sure, but she wont look it up.
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  One Day assembly in Arizona- $17,000 !!

  by AndDontCallMeShirley in

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  i heard from a reliable source that a one-day assembly in arizona last weekend had a "cost" to the publishers of $17,000.. predictably, the elders were nice enough to obligate the attendees to a $6,000 donation to wt before the assembly "costs" (i.e.

  "rent/extortion) were even met.

  $11,000 rent plus $6000 in extra "donations".

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  when the assembly hall was paid off for many many years i always wondered what cost so much money. after all everything is voulentered no maintaianence costs or landscaping costs other than new mulch.

  so the only cost is electricity, which these buildings are supposed to be super energy efficiiant. and water and sewer costs.
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  HELP! Elder bombarded me with scripture...& I don't know what to do.

  by Smoky in

  1. watchtower
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  i have been lurking on this site for many years.

  i rarely post anything, because my english isnt the best and not sure if anyone understands.

  i just recently had a run in with an elder, have not seen him in a few years.

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  where were you that this man was able to talk to you this long?

  I tend to let people talk, try to look like im busy,

  then say 'well, i see things a bit differently , but thanks for your concern, im glad you still show

  me consideration and ill think about what you said'.

  and then move on....
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  what does jehovah eat ?

  by bigmac in

  1. watchtower
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  yeah yeah---i know--spiritual food.. .

  or maybe---beans ( human beans ).

  for those on here who still believe in a god---how do you perceive him / her / it ?.

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  acocrding to the researchers from the show, ancient aliens,

  apparently manna, from the manna machine.
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  which book says it?

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my mom seems to railroad me into a debate at least once a week.. anyway long story short,.

  she says 'there is no where in the literture that the wt writers claimed that a specfic year it was going to be armageddon.. well i thought there was, and id like to print it or show it to her, i have some older books but not many.. so, is there?

  i told her that the wt claimed that 1975 was going to be the end, she said no, they said that was the beginning of the tribulation.. wow, she forgot about the most recent article ablout that already!.

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  sorry for my mis spelling im tired
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  which book says it?

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my mom seems to railroad me into a debate at least once a week.. anyway long story short,.

  she says 'there is no where in the literture that the wt writers claimed that a specfic year it was going to be armageddon.. well i thought there was, and id like to print it or show it to her, i have some older books but not many.. so, is there?

  i told her that the wt claimed that 1975 was going to be the end, she said no, they said that was the beginning of the tribulation.. wow, she forgot about the most recent article ablout that already!.

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  my mom seems to railroad me into a debate at least once a week.

  anyway long story short,

  she says 'there is no where in the literture that the wt writers claimed that a specfic year it was going to be armageddon.

  well i thought there was, and id like to print it or show it to her, i have some older books but not many.

  so, is there? i told her that the wt claimed that 1975 was going to be the end, she said no, they said that was the beginning of the tribulation.

  wow, she forgot about the most recent article ablout that already!

  anyway help anyone?
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  a young 14 year old girl was disfellowshipped in my former congregation last week

  by alexandre in

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  a baptized girl from my former cong.

  was expelled out because she participated in more than one porn videos with classmates in the school and theses videos became public.

  she is 14 years old and grew up as witnesses.but anybody knows she had many boyfriends and she-, but that thing was unbelievable!

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  a 14 yr old has no buisness being baptized to begn with, i bet those parents arent gettting any emotional support either.

  no one in my opinion is mature enough to get baptized into any faith unless they have had years of expereince and are fully mature.

  after all 'perfect jesus' was 30 before he got baptized.
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  Evolution and spirits

  by Chris Tann in

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  as of now iam making an unbiased examination of evolution.

  however one thing keeps me hanging on to the belief of a supreme spirit being; the existence of spirits.

  i have heard countless accounts of people who have experienced frightening encounters with evil forces.

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  i thought all breathing things were souls, so, when animals die, why are there not animal spirits all over the place? hmm I always wondered about spirits myself.

  i have had some experiences with a ghostly like woman when i was a 4 yr old , yes a 4 yr old. she walked through the wall when i was in my bed.

  she came across the room and got into bed with me. i rolled over and closed my eyes in fear.

  well, this happened a few times.

  i still recall the exact layout of that room, and im 52.

  and the fact that this spirit was a woman with long hair makes me wonder why a 4 yr old was 'dreaming' something so real.

  as a child in this particular apartment i also recal getting up walking of the top of the stairs and jumping into the air and floating down. many times.

  now why would a child age 4 in 1965 when tv was rarely watched, and in black and white have such dreams? i lived a boring quiet life.

  while in this same apt, my mother says that many mornings after my father left for work, she felt someone hold her down in bed and she couldnt get up.

  she attributes all of this to the fact that she was 'studying the bible' with my aunt who just brought the jw faith back with her from california. we moved out of that aprtment and did not have any experienced like that UNTIL one day my school freind who I found out liked to play the oija board games and read spiritistic books,[ at age 13], gave me a bag of clothing. one night that week, i heard voices on the other side of the door. it was 2 am so it wasnt the tv. i told my mom about the voices and she told me that it was probably demons that came form my friends house.

  she made me give the clothes back and i never heard them again. and thats back then, but wait,

  last year i was working in a store in my area, an old store. i was bent over stocking shelves when i heard someone walk past me and saw a brief figure out of the corner of my eye, go into the back room, knowing it was only me and my manager, i stood up and looked back expecting to see her, when i did not I yelled for her, and she was in the front of the store, i said, 'who walked into the stock room? she said 'no one , why?' i told her what i heard , and she came walking back with a grin on her face and said ' you saw him, the ghost who lives here'.

  now mind you, im not a kind of person who believes in such things nor am i afraid of the dark, or things that go bump in the night. so i dont look for these things to happen. they do out of the blue.

  coincidence, ,maybe, but it was very odd huh?
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  was noah under the law of moses? huh?

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
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  im confused, a poster for the whole mamoth elephants and ark deal going on, with a gizillion pages, .

  quoted genesis ch 7 about him bringing 7 clean animals.

  and only two unclean, well i thought it wasnt till moses came along that all these requirements were done, so noah was under the law too?.

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  funny old book the bible is...