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  Elders' Authority - Flock Book

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the biggest surprise in the flock book was the hiding-for 3-years serious sin absolution provision for elders (if with "jehovah's evident blessing").. the second is the remark regarding an inactive person, and the situation:.

  "is the person willing to meet with a committee, thus admitting accountability to the christian congregation?".

  now, the bible says: i want you to know that the head of every man is the christ; in turn the head of a woman is the man; in turn the head of the christ is god.

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  and inactive person is only inactive because the elders did not have the time to follow everyone around like a lost puppy. if and when someone finally gets around to me, I will ask them where they were when I needed help? and what good came from all my loyal years going to the hall? where are all my good close friends?

  Im no worse off now than before. they will only have excuses not answers .
  

  there is the key blondie, in the case of an ISRAELITE WOMAN Gods law through MOSES.
  

  none of which is in effect for any of us and In my opinion has no purpose in my life and i cannot be bound by rules from an ancient civilization.
  

  if an elder can hide sin for 'three' years, who knows when the 'three years' started? lol

  people hide sin all the time. were sinners we cant help it, that's why we have UNDESERVED KINDNESS.
  

  
  

  and its not for men to judge. thats my story, and Im going to stick with it. lol
  
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  Protect governing body with your life

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a quote in the literature some years back about protecting the governing body from secular authorities and insinuated that we should do whatever it took to insure their safety.. i seem to remember it was something about refusing to help the authorities locate the governing body.

  i may be off track here.

  if this is familiar to you could you please help me find the quote?.

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  id say that's probably not in any written form, at least in my generation,lol

  but it wouldn't surprise me if someone said something to that effect in a talk at one point.

  In a talk given by a c.o or d.o years ago, he said 'its ok to tell a little lie to save our brothers and sisters if it means their life'
  

  after he described how a group of jws were hiding from authorities and the householders lied and said they did not see them.
  

  I did a double take, because if that was the mindset EVER, then all those who perished previously, would be alive if someone lied to protect them. [and then why couldn't someone lie and not let anyone know they took a blood transfusion? after all, its a life . who is going to know but you and your doctor?]

  its then I knew something was seriously wrong.

  i have to wonder who else sitting there got the same lighting bolt,lol
  
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  Old Witnessy Pics

  by snugglebunny in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so what have you got?.

  i'll start.. 1958 aboard steamship arosa star, english and german jw's bound for new york for 8 day assembly at yankee stadium.. .

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  mine wont upload, waited ten minuets. how did you upload yours?
  
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  Three elders show up "to encourage me" after 10 years!

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  "hey brother wasa, come on back to the meetings.

  " (after 10 years) so i respond that the situation with pedophiles is out of hand.

  they tell me "we" elders have received tons of training on the subject, its not like it was 10 years ago.

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  so, if you were not a former elder what is the likelihood they would have shown up?
  
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  Is it common for old men to marry young JW?

  by adjusted knowledge in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i left in the 90's and marriage partners were similar in age at my former congregation.

  i ran into a former jw friend from my childhood.

  i haven't seen him in 15 years.

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  i have a real difficult time with a person marrying someone over ten years difference in age

  . for one thing 20 years to me borderlines on perverted, pedifile ,behavior, cradle robbing, ect. and a female who goes after such an older man is not only mentally unbalanced to me, they have daddy issues. or caretaker issues.lol its just weird. i mean your 40 going after your daughters 20 yr old freind, ew . sorry.
  

  so that now when these ones who marry such a gap in age, are 60 and still having some energy left, they are caretakers for a senior citizen and their married life is over..

  why would anyone want such a generation gap?
  

  imo, older men who go after young women in the org are no better than all the other men in the world who chase young women to boost their egos.lol
  
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  Just had a blow up with jw mom and she said the bible referenced angels being called gods, it that true?

  by Question_Mans_interpretation in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  long story short my mom was acting weird, snubbing me, when i tried bringing her grandkids to see her, so i tried again and this time i just went up and hugged her since she wouldn't hug me or acknowledge any affection.

  when i released her i immediately saw her annoyed look and asked what?

  bang, she unleashes a floodgate of how she's still mad at me for going to another church that believes the trinity.

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  I think somewhere in the letters to one of the congregations, there is a reference to angel worship.
  

  perhaps she might be encouraged to show you all those scriptural references to these 'angelic stories'.

  when i ask my mom to show me the scriptures she never does. she forgets our conversations by the next hour.

  also would it make any difference if point out to her that not only do you not believe in a trinity, you also don't believe a lot of things that the book called the bible has in it, especially theirs, because its been imperfect men who have translated and copied the bible for centuries. If God was so able to preserve his word, then there would be only one bible. the fact that men keep rewriting it should be a red flag.
  

  after al,l if the watchtower organization was correct in the first place they would have no reason to re do their bible translation would they? it would have been perfectly understandable from the get go, since they apparently were approved by Jesus 100 years ago. we don't fix it if its not broke right? lol
  

  gee, maybe instead of that argument ask her where it is in the scriptures where its acceptable and normal for a mother to shun her own child what example is she teaching her grandchildren? what must they think of her behavior? is that what she wants them to remember of her when her time is up?
  

  she is displaying no natural affection which is part of unrighteousness . family is gods arrangement, so if hes condoning tearing it apart by way of religious disagreements, hes contradicting himself. hmm scriptures anyone?
  
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  Does Anyone Know Where This Picture Came From...

  by MADMARY in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it couldn't be from a watchtower cover, right???

  does anyone know?.

  mm.

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  i can honestly say i have never seen that photo.
  
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  What I Learned Today

  by OneFingerSalute in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just thought i would share what i learned today sitting for several miserable hours at the circus assembly.. while i took "notes" i just cannot stand trying to type out all the details.

  so suffice it to say the entire program can be covered with these few observations.. do more!

  give more!

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  id like to know what the 'menu' was for the day.

  in some of your notes notice a pattern of self importance by any chance? and by the mentioning of the governing body or faithful slave in the prayers?
  

  i left after prayers often had ones saying 'and we thank the faithful slave for all our spiritual food..' and the constant mention of the group.

  little if any mention of Jesus being the king, our leader ,our mediator, our example.
  

  good way to reason that being discreet is lost on the leaders.
  
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  They're spying me on facebook

  by cookiemaster in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  most of you have probably seen the apostasy trial video posted on youtube (and all over social media) recently.

  well, there's a "wordly" woman from another country that i had worked with some time ago and she's posted it, tagged me, and asked "wtf?

  ", knowing i'm a still a jw just for family reasons.

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  yea facebook is a spy network, lol were not hiding anything on there. which is why mine is boring. juts photos i take, recipes, links to jokes and articles, yup boring. im not putting anything on there I wouldn't want the world to know,lol for me there is no one chasing me down for any explanation as to my absence , nor is my son, were just forgotten. that's ok by me, I barely notice the difference. id say get off facebook. just use private email. and never a cell phone.
  
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  Summarize every the meeting in 20 seconds

  by Sour Grapes in

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  2. friends

  the world is full of wickedness.. the end is very near.. we must do more.. how thankful we are for the governing body.

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  lets sing song ......

  now for our prayer....
  

  lets listen to bro browneyes discuss a fascinating subject, ' how to survive the end...'

  here in Isaiah ch ....
  

  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  well thats the end of a fine talk, lets turn to song.....