Posts by sowhatnow

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When doers Babylon the Great Fall? :)

by The Searcher in

take your pick!!.

kj chap.

15 p. 286 par.

sowhatnow

not to worry, it fell.

Jesus warned his apostles back then THEY would see all this happen. [he told them to flee to judea or else.]

the 'great' tribulation already happened. they went through it. so says the letters to the 7 congs.

read this its amazing. http://www.templemount.org/destruct2.html

Jesus is ruling, he told them they would see him in his kingdom.

the kingdom is in us if we wish it to be.

the battle AT Armageddon happened already too. thank the Lord. lol

paradise is in heaven, so says the bible many times.

paul said it was in Corinthians when was in the third heaven where paradise is . and Jesus is there in heaven. where he told the guy next to him he would be going that 'day' after they died. [ although, jesus did not go directly to heaven, he went to preach to the demons in the prisons first why, who knows ,lol]

no one has yet to show me where a scripture indicates there is anymore than one fulfillment of any said prophesy. prophesy is for the listener at the time. where also is any scripture that

says anyone lived through 'an' 'Armageddon'[which is a place not an event] people lived though tribulation.

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Worst Bible Verse ... EVER

by Wild_Thing in

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from the nwt, of course.

none of the other versions make it sound any better, either.

2 timothy, chapter 2 has been used and abused to suppress women everywhere.

sowhatnow

I pointed that out to my mom once, and asked her if thats to be part of the God given rules why are we not today observing it? she gave a lame answer, and i told her its becasue men back then viewed women as second class citizens, then she went off about all the 'good women' one who has a bible book names after her.

I said so then we can have our own view on whats proper to observe now ? so then why do we need the bible to tell us whats good and bad?

she changed the subject.lol

it is held by bible scholars researchers and the like,

[in which were quoted from in several books i have read about bible writings by bart ehrman and others]

that those were added in later by someone copying or translating. its all ancient man made rules.

doesn't it seem odd that all of the sudden that off topic statement just inserts itself there? I always thought so.

its the best place the jerk could place it. paul did not write many of those anyway, nor did Matthew mark Luke or john write theirs.

I also found a scripture repeated on the following chapter, lol,

[cant recall which one right off hand] but i know which place it did belong, made no sense where it was the first time. lol.

11

Meetings

by lavendar in

my family member says he only attends two meetings per week.

and only goes out on field service whenever he wants to.

are some halls less strict than others?

sowhatnow

id say it depends on how popular you are, lol.

no one notices that i haven't been there for a year.[well maybe a few 'regular' people]

no one called me out on my lack of service activity for 5 years.

as long as you are there with a happy face, comment once, and give them something to write down on their paperwork for your service time someone can slink along till they die on minimum activity.

if someone i bumped into said oh i did not see you at meeting, I assure them I listened in.

wore that one out.

maybe if they stopped keeping records of everything and acted like a normal church they would have more members lol

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Elders' Authority - Flock Book

by berrygerry in

the biggest surprise in the flock book was the hiding-for 3-years serious sin absolution provision for elders (if with "jehovah's evident blessing").. the second is the remark regarding an inactive person, and the situation:.

"is the person willing to meet with a committee, thus admitting accountability to the christian congregation?".

now, the bible says: i want you to know that the head of every man is the christ; in turn the head of a woman is the man; in turn the head of the christ is god.

sowhatnow

and inactive person is only inactive because the elders did not have the time to follow everyone around like a lost puppy. if and when someone finally gets around to me, I will ask them where they were when I needed help? and what good came from all my loyal years going to the hall? where are all my good close friends?

Im no worse off now than before. they will only have excuses not answers .

there is the key blondie, in the case of an ISRAELITE WOMAN Gods law through MOSES.

none of which is in effect for any of us and In my opinion has no purpose in my life and i cannot be bound by rules from an ancient civilization.

if an elder can hide sin for 'three' years, who knows when the 'three years' started? lol

people hide sin all the time. were sinners we cant help it, that's why we have UNDESERVED KINDNESS.

and its not for men to judge. thats my story, and Im going to stick with it. lol

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Protect governing body with your life

by Zoos in

there was a quote in the literature some years back about protecting the governing body from secular authorities and insinuated that we should do whatever it took to insure their safety.. i seem to remember it was something about refusing to help the authorities locate the governing body.

i may be off track here.

if this is familiar to you could you please help me find the quote?.

sowhatnow

id say that's probably not in any written form, at least in my generation,lol

but it wouldn't surprise me if someone said something to that effect in a talk at one point.

In a talk given by a c.o or d.o years ago, he said 'its ok to tell a little lie to save our brothers and sisters if it means their life'

after he described how a group of jws were hiding from authorities and the householders lied and said they did not see them.

I did a double take, because if that was the mindset EVER, then all those who perished previously, would be alive if someone lied to protect them. [and then why couldn't someone lie and not let anyone know they took a blood transfusion? after all, its a life . who is going to know but you and your doctor?]

its then I knew something was seriously wrong.

i have to wonder who else sitting there got the same lighting bolt,lol

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Old Witnessy Pics

by snugglebunny in

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so what have you got?.

i'll start.. 1958 aboard steamship arosa star, english and german jw's bound for new york for 8 day assembly at yankee stadium.. .

sowhatnow

mine wont upload, waited ten minuets. how did you upload yours?

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Three elders show up "to encourage me" after 10 years!

by Wasanelder Once in

"hey brother wasa, come on back to the meetings.

" (after 10 years) so i respond that the situation with pedophiles is out of hand.

they tell me "we" elders have received tons of training on the subject, its not like it was 10 years ago.

sowhatnow

so, if you were not a former elder what is the likelihood they would have shown up?

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Is it common for old men to marry young JW?

by adjusted knowledge in

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i left in the 90's and marriage partners were similar in age at my former congregation.

i ran into a former jw friend from my childhood.

i haven't seen him in 15 years.

sowhatnow

i have a real difficult time with a person marrying someone over ten years difference in age

. for one thing 20 years to me borderlines on perverted, pedifile ,behavior, cradle robbing, ect. and a female who goes after such an older man is not only mentally unbalanced to me, they have daddy issues. or caretaker issues.lol its just weird. i mean your 40 going after your daughters 20 yr old freind, ew . sorry.

so that now when these ones who marry such a gap in age, are 60 and still having some energy left, they are caretakers for a senior citizen and their married life is over..

why would anyone want such a generation gap?

imo, older men who go after young women in the org are no better than all the other men in the world who chase young women to boost their egos.lol

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Just had a blow up with jw mom and she said the bible referenced angels being called gods, it that true?

by Question_Mans_interpretation in

long story short my mom was acting weird, snubbing me, when i tried bringing her grandkids to see her, so i tried again and this time i just went up and hugged her since she wouldn't hug me or acknowledge any affection.

when i released her i immediately saw her annoyed look and asked what?

bang, she unleashes a floodgate of how she's still mad at me for going to another church that believes the trinity.

sowhatnow

I think somewhere in the letters to one of the congregations, there is a reference to angel worship.

perhaps she might be encouraged to show you all those scriptural references to these 'angelic stories'.

when i ask my mom to show me the scriptures she never does. she forgets our conversations by the next hour.

also would it make any difference if point out to her that not only do you not believe in a trinity, you also don't believe a lot of things that the book called the bible has in it, especially theirs, because its been imperfect men who have translated and copied the bible for centuries. If God was so able to preserve his word, then there would be only one bible. the fact that men keep rewriting it should be a red flag.

after al,l if the watchtower organization was correct in the first place they would have no reason to re do their bible translation would they? it would have been perfectly understandable from the get go, since they apparently were approved by Jesus 100 years ago. we don't fix it if its not broke right? lol

gee, maybe instead of that argument ask her where it is in the scriptures where its acceptable and normal for a mother to shun her own child what example is she teaching her grandchildren? what must they think of her behavior? is that what she wants them to remember of her when her time is up?

she is displaying no natural affection which is part of unrighteousness . family is gods arrangement, so if hes condoning tearing it apart by way of religious disagreements, hes contradicting himself. hmm scriptures anyone?

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Does Anyone Know Where This Picture Came From...

by MADMARY in

it couldn't be from a watchtower cover, right???

does anyone know?.

mm.

sowhatnow

i can honestly say i have never seen that photo.