Posts by sowhatnow

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How will the Watchtower Cult end?

by WireRider in

some announcement of sorts?.

there are all kinds of conspiracy theories.

their head count and time cards are all faked by the gb, and "congregations".

sowhatnow

when their free ride ends...

http://paperpilotsmusic.bandcamp.com/track/free-ride

.....Cause the fake smiles are getting harder to hide
And your free ride is getting harder to find

........But it's getting old going down their road
Don't you know you just need your own

lol

8

Security Guards at Bethel and Body Guards for GB?

by RetiredLE in

"happy" vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je6_855ucac @ about 2:25 is a bethelite with a "security" jacket.

and then here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts23nn0emnw a "brother" at the gate claims to be sia security.

sowhatnow

well if they stop attracting attention to themselves there wouldn't be an issue at all.

If they didn't 'store up treasures on earth'

there would be no reason to have to hire so many different advisers.

37

Infighting at the top?

by JeffT in

jw
friends

we've all been trying to decipher what is going on at the top of the watchtower organization.

clearly, the game's afoot, we just don't know what game we're playing.

item: the constant harping about money and donations.

sowhatnow

what I wonder is what the writers of the magazines and books and the creators of these videos are thinking inside.

who is instructing them as to what to research and write, so that they have written such contradictory statements.

if there is a power struggle, whos ideas get printed in what lesson?

who , I wonder agrees with these new 'electronic lessons' in the kingdom halls and who is loosing?

How can anyone sit at meetings, and not question the sneaky financial changes ?

how can one even be an elder and not be on zoloft?

perhaps, the older group of senile G.B. men are in lala land and the younger ones are being sneaky and influencing them. who knows,

but man, what a show.

35

After 17 years, I went to a KH....really shocked!!

by Prometheus in

after severe pressure from my family, i have decided to attend to the nearest kh.

and a little history regarding my self: i became inactive and lost completely contact of the wt changes and "new light" 17 years ago.. everything seemed so odd and strange during the meeting.

latest technology, animated movies, watchtower web tv, a website that you can download everything, including km and wt study articles.

sowhatnow

so you might be warned people, if morbid curiosity gets you to go to a meeting,

make sure you wear a depends,lol

133

The new service meeting

by John Aquila in

i wanted to relate an experience that happened this morning.

it is regarding the new format for the meeting on thursdays in my area.

its not word for word but im summarizing what i heard, the best i can remember.

sowhatnow

LOL

omg, your post has made my day, I can just imagine that whole thing happening.

last night, i left my moms and she was attempting to explain that 'new meeting'

but we got into it and i had to leave. [gee, i wonder if my mom will mention it again]

but seriously, i have heard in the past persons expressing concerns just like that, but there is always one dedicated 'confomant' around who drags everyone back in line and changes the subject.

omg, these women saying that's stuff, and trying to set you up, oh man, wow, wish I was there, and how did you not have the biggest grin on your face, Id have been rolling on the floor.

and ok yea, when did you wake up,lol good one freddo

24

I'm ready to get my first Powerball ticket -- NOT!

by FatFreek 2005 in

jw
friends

it's up to some 800 zillion dollars now and hasn't suckered me in yet.

i've been out of watchtower for some 38 years now and i suppose the lottery is one of their nonoze.

i have nothing morally wrong against it or anyone who enjoys doing it.

sowhatnow

i got one. one. and not even with the power play.

Id be happy with 1000 bucks right now.lol

11

Do JW's still go door-to-door?

by Dark Knight in

with the rise of the new literature cart method of preaching, i'm curious as to how the traditional jw preaching work is organized.

the other reason i ask this is that i hardly see jw's door-knocking anymore.are they still going door-to-door and tracking how regularly their territory is covered?

are they still using territory maps and keeping track of do-not-calls, ethnic/deaf houses etc?i'm also curious as to how the literature cart ministry is organized.

sowhatnow

I live in rural, we have a small town, they dont do carts here.

ive never seen one at any mall or any retail store either, I don't think they are allowed. the still are die hard door to door people who like to drive around country roads for two or four hours wasting gas and getting people pissed. and sometimes get stuck at the bottom of someones driveway in the snow, because they are too stupid to stay home and need to 'get in their time' each week. omg, you should hear these older people when they dont get out in service its like they were being judged right then and there. making all sorts of excuses why they 'cant' or haven't got out. its like a competition. ' I got in 15 hours this week'

while knowing they live off social security, have no money to buy so much as a blanket for their bed. but hey they got gas money!

Last night I was at my mothers house, shes 74.

she mentioned, [ as she like do do, so very close to the time she knows I have to leave]

that 'they' had a new service meeting, 'its not the kingdom ministry anymore' . she started to tell me what the purpose was of that 'new' booklet or paper or whatever it is, and I said to her, "wow, mom your how old and you still need to be taught how to go door to door? seriously, mom how long does it take to have someone explain to you how to ask someone if they wish to read a magazine?" its not like learning how to fly a jet. its just repeat repeat at the meetings.

and she says, "hey, the older you get the more you forget, we all need reminded"

well lol, round and around for a few minuets, gets around to this...

I said, "mom, you seriously did not just say that the watchtower has not changed teachings"

she says, "they never changed their central doctrines! they adjust their understanding and have new light"

lol wow, so I say, "seriously mom, there is no difference, and yes they have changed things, you have read it yourself right at your very own meetings in the past 5 years, and its totally factual want me to show you?"

she says " no they haven't and you want to believe all that propaganda off tv and watch all those documentaries, and read stuff online that's your choice, and sadly you are so misled."

Well, shes a riot, i never ever led her to believe that, I always tell her the same thing"mom, I dont need to read anything, the bible doesn't say that, look it up, i dont see that in the bible" she then says

"oh you never liked service and meetings anyway, your just looking for an excuse to stop going"

oh I love that one. she knows just how to spread the guilt virus and push buttons in that house that's for sure. everyone is a child still in her house.

so she always repeats the same half scripture, 'do not forsake gathering yourselves together" like that fixes everything,lol

I said 'mom, so its ok for you to use one scriture to create a whole teaching, and claim its a command.

Jesus never commanded that."

And she says " yes he did"

And I say "SHOW ME WHERE IT SAYS THAT"

and as it goes, she mumbles and leaves the room.

I get ready to go home, she hugs me goodbye and gives me my dozen of farm eggs, and says "so are you going to be up sunday?"

lol. and off I go.

she has not once ever had a scripture ready for me, lol,

I so need a life.

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If JWs were to change their name what would they change it to?

by slimboyfat in

was it 1931 when they adopted jehovah's witnesses?

(at the time with lower case w) isn't it about time now they changed name again?

i mean everything else is changing why not the name!

sowhatnow

According to their logic, They have taken the 'lords name in vain'

The WT, have claimed the right to use gods 'name' and used it for personal profit,

either for the means of money, and to gain admiration for themselves.[ That is completely undeniable.]

They also have not 'learned' supposed bible 'truth', since they keep changing things.

so if anything, by submitting themselves humbly , [dont hold your breath]

they should wish be called [Worldwide] Christian bible students .

That is the most accurate in my opinion.

although they sure have been called a few other things ......

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If YOU had to make the decision, would you respect a JW relatives wish to refuse a blood transfusion?

by nicolaou in

a few years after i quit the meetings my mum needed her medical directive signed and witnessed and she asked if i'd do it.

i was surprised to say the least!.

i think she was just angling to include me and maybe find some lever to get me involved again.

sowhatnow

The question has the word YOU capitalized.

If I was put in the position of making the choice, and the person was unable, then according to MY conscience, I would do anything to save their life. If the person had a do not resuscitate card and they were advanced in age, or had some chronic illness, then I would respect that. It would be difficult, but I know how the quality of life is for older or very sick persons who are bedridden or on feeding tubes. It totally sucks, and mentally tortures them.

I would assume, that any JW, who for some reason was given blood, against their wishes, when they had no way to speak for themselves, would under no circumstances be blamed for 'going against the teachings'

they should face no criticism from anyone. no one need know actually.

In my exp as well, unbaptized JW's who for some reason are given blood [with the go ahead of a non JW family member] , are viewed as 'spiritually immature' 'not yet dedicated' and therefore not judged.

at least thats the last viewpoint that was shared with me on the matter.

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Elder continues serving as elder after his daughter got disfellowshipped!

by hardtobeme in

this is what is happening in a spanish congregation in our area.

this happened 3 weeks ago.

this brother conducted the school and after the school was over, another elder gave the announcement: "( name of the person) is not longer a jehovah's witness".

sowhatnow

How about when your unbaptized 14 yr old daughter gets into trouble and your husband is 'only' an M.S. who only does the literature counter ,mic's and occasionally reads at book study? and yet he gets the boot?

that's called 'we dont like you, and now you gave us a reason to get rid of you' .lol