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  Would we exist if Adam and Eve didn't sin?

  by truth doubter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my son asked me 40 years ago.

  should we be glad adam sinned?

  because if he hadn't, we would not be the person we are.. any opinions?

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  sowhatnow

  no.
  

  because Im assuming if everyone remained perfect, Able would have been alive, so there is a whole other family line.
  

  Cain probably wouldnt have married the sister he did marry, so again another family line.

  people wouldn't have died, so the same men and women wouldn't have got together.

  and so in a perfect world, God would have only let so many humans populate the perfectly fertile paradise like planet, before he made earth 2 . we'd have wings, and we could fly there,lol
  

  how about this,

  what if adam did not sin? after all he didnt have to do what eve did. would he have been given another woman?

  would she have been forgiven by god if adam asked?

  would eve die and adam stay alive? or would adam have two wives? would eve have died faster?

  would eve have children to adam? would the children been half good and half bad?

  oh wow! thats what happened! one was good one was bad and so were both good and bad,lol
  

  lets blame adam for all the mess he was here first, he should have known better, lol .

  
  

  gee, its like, biblical back to the future.
  
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  can we see a parallel?

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i found this article to be quite unsettling.

  especially the part on social 'credit'.

  so many phrases in this article rings true of the wt ,.

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  i found this article to be quite unsettling. especially the part on social 'credit'

  so many phrases in this article rings true of the WT ,

  [is it than mankind in general , has some odd desire to control everyone else around them? how stressful]
  

  http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1989085-6-chinese-spy-programs-that-are-worse-than-big-brother-in-orwells-1984/
  
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  How many times have the GB been wrong?

  by atomant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  actually its quite amusing to observe the different reactions from within the org every time theres new light.how dumb does a person have to be to not realize its all a conjob.surely a thinking logical person would question all the changes over the years.lts almost like the blind leading the blind scenario.

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  all the time, or 144,000 times

  whichever comes first
  
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  Jehovah’s Witnesses are Taught to Lie but to then Lie about Lying

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah’s witnesses are taught to lie but to then lie about lying.

  first off, let’s define what it means to tell a lie.

  i prefer the definition offered by aristotle way back in 4th century b.c.e.

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  saying nothing is an admission to guilt where I come from,lol

  its like a bunch of kids who got into trouble, and mom or dad pulls them all into the kitchen and says

  'who did it? '
  

  no one says anything, so they all get the belt. take it for the team. lol then the guilty one owes you. lol
  

  what other reason than to avoid telling what you know, than to keep quiet.
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  I got my Memorial invite! I got my Memorial invite!

  by Dagney in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my first one!

  even though i got it saturday, march 26, in the mail in an envelope addressed to "my dear neighbor.".

  it's the thought that counts..

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  woo hoo, a new table coaster. lol
  
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  The diabolical plan of the WTBTS.

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  diabolical, or just really dumb, desperate and grasping for control; either way, the devil is in the details of the january 15, 2016 "study edition" of the watchtower tractazine.

  so, we have two intertwined articles concerning "anointed" individuals within the sect of the wtbts inc. "the spirit bears witness with our spirit.

  " and "we want to go with you people.

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  you speak truth data dog, i just read it on the internet. lol
  

  but , lo an behold, the mystery may be solved, and reveled the hidden secret

  of the heavenly class on the other post.
  

  so let it be written, so let it be done...

  go be well fed.
  
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  So... Are they done printing the number of partakers?

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  during the wt study yesterday i had a confused look on my face the whole meeting.

  more of a, wtf, face.

  one paragraph says, "therefore,the number of partakers does not accurately indicate the number of anointed ones left on earth.".

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  yes,they will not number the partakers anymore , here's why,
  

  only 144000 men are chosen.
  

  women, who are never part of the 144000, but may somehow be 'anointed' or chosen by god.
  

  [scriptures anyone to support that?]

  are Not numbered .
  

  as we all know, women are overly emotional mentally unbalanced creatures,

  and never know if they are or are not anointed. lol
  

  Yes I have new light.lol

  IN review

  women are unnumbered, belong to the other sheep, and men are of the 144000.
  

  so no one really knows how many men already have died.

  PROBLEM SOLVED .
  
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  Some thoughts on guilt.

  by New day in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  had an interesting conversation with my wife recently.

  she struggles with physical, emotional and psychological problems which have often caused her to miss meetings.

  she mentioned how she is equally tortured by guilt if she misses meetings and ministry, and severe stress if she does them.

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  as a former elder, you should know the scriptures to show her where God does not expect 'works' to show him how a person accepts jesus as the son.

  your heart condition, is what makes God notice, not the works of men he is the hearer of prayer, not men.
  

  God reads the heart, not a service form.

  how she thinks a loving god would ever judge her for not being a wonder woman is beyond me.
  

  explain to her that by taking care of her own health and happiness, will make her a better person inside, and a better loving wife and companion to you her husband.[ taking care of her family is all god expects from any woman.] god doesn't want or need worn out frazzled people,lol
  

  This is what God wants from her, to love you and enjoy the gift of life.

  what sort of god does she want to worship?

  one that judges her on some warped idea of recordable 'works', or on her heart and love for her family?

  one who wants a joyful heart or one who makes 'notes'?
  

  how would she treat someone like herself? someone who feels depressed and sad and anxious? what would her advice be?

  is she better than god? she might be.

  by her being a simple loving happy wife is the best gift she can give to god.
  

  not for her to conform and be upset due to an unbalanced view of worship.
  

  best of luck.
  
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  So... Are they done printing the number of partakers?

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  during the wt study yesterday i had a confused look on my face the whole meeting.

  more of a, wtf, face.

  one paragraph says, "therefore,the number of partakers does not accurately indicate the number of anointed ones left on earth.".

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  what does always talking about the anointed or 144000 supposed to do for everyone else?
  does that teaching encourage anyone?

  if they keep belittling the supposed importance of the anointed, what is the whole point? how does that make someone who thinks they have a 'special' calling supposed to feel? lol you cant feel 'special' , talk about it, think about it, then your not sure about it cause its only and invitation, lol. oh WTF for sure.
  where are the 'lessons' to benefit everyone else?
  how to be loving and giving?
  is everyone all happy and full of relief coming out of a meeting?
  nope.

  can you imagine what children are making of all that?
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  Jehovah's Witnesses January 2016 Sunday 2nd talk by CO "You are what you eat "

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt3d72rd1wm.

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  I wont listen, until I am needing something to help me fall asleep....

  [Id find myself looking at scriptures and thinking, wha? huh? where are you going with that one? ]
  

  I could never understand what the purpose of all those talks did for people in general.

  when giving a talk, the material in my opinion, should ALWAYS appeal to a total stranger who has just walked in and sat down. totally understandable, can be applied immediately, helpful and joyful to hear. A person should walk away feeling good, not guilty, fearful or anxious.
  

  what keeps someone going back to a specific church or congregation?

  usually what is being said from the stage...
  

  if no one can make sense of it, why bother listening.
  

  the fact is, every talk they give is so mysterious and single minded, the sole purpose of putting a burden on your mind.

  with no focus on how humans can better themselves for the good of your fellow man. they use very few if any scriptures and they most always have nothing to do with the idea they are trying to get across.
  

  [well, not that the poorly assembled ancient book has any real use to it accept to shock a person....lol ]