i wish 13 years ago i knew places like this even existed to begin with! i was clueless until a year ago!
I just think how much things would have been different for me if i have even those 13 years back.
sowhatnow
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I joined this site 13 years ago...
by Funchback inhello, all.... i posted something here under 'friends' but i couldn't find a way to change it to 'experiences'.
sorry for the inconvenience.. brian.
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ladies , its not just me, is it?..
by sowhatnow inok ladies, has there been any documented studies on the role religion or society plays in keeping women in an economical and social disadvantaged state ?
im wondering how many other women out there in the world, who either being raised or being long term followers of a strict religious faith,with traditional family structures, have upon either divorce or death of a spouse find it nearly impossible to find a mate or economic stability , and live out the remainder of their lives struggling and either bouncing from one guy to another, being disappointed or used, or simply alone.
i have personally felt, that i, being a xjw and now divorced woman , with no acceptable work skills,[ ie: fancy resume with degrees] living of low wage part time work and barely any alimony , will simply be viewed as someone trying to get another man to support her.
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well to inform you on your curiosity, i have not looked to men based on income, that is not available info on the sites i have been on. i go by the profiles, its all i got. your right maybe it will take time. but i feel so cheap and sleazy being on those sites. i get like hundreds of views, and dozens of relies and its troubling to me. i don't like being looked at in that way.
i am not super picky with appearances either, but i do have to at least find them marginally attractive knowing that those photos are not at all what people look like. from those two experience they post older pics when they were younger and thinner, lol but no so me.
too many guys are overweight and have motorcycles smoke pot,have tatoos, and drink beer, i was never attracted to that. I have always been naturally attracted to nicely dressed conservative middle management business type men, maybe with normal short close shaved beards, not goatees neck hair, or those weird ones just around the mouth, ew.
even if I never was a jw, lol. that's just me. it has nothing to do with income. accept oddly, that people who are blue collar, even after work, generally dress like they dont know how to buy clothes that fit, and look to me, sloppy. my husband rarely dressed nice, he was in over sized work jeans and a t shirt every day, and he was a sheet metal worker, he got dirty. the only time he got cleaned up was after dinner, and put on sloppy sweatpants, or for the meetings he rarely got cleaned up for me.
lisarose,
yea i was hoping to find some sort of club to join or classes to take, but where i live there are none. its all online classes. oh well. i have nothing special to offer, thats the point, what do men think a women has to offer?
if not money then what?? i can do domestic things, its all i know how to do! cook clean, sew, garden, what else is there? what do i want from a man? he can provide for the family, and in return he gets a clean house well cared for offspring, and sex. lol. what else is there? what should i have to offer? i can work part time, thats not a problem, so what is it? ok guys, what do you want??
I should have had the chance to go to college, but we were a poor family, and i did badly in school, i had no help or encouragement from my mom, since Armageddon was around the corner. lol.
I have never led the men i dated to believe I was not confident in my job, i do ok, i work hard and get paid well. but im scraping by, and im ok with that, im not in need of anything. but at my age, why do i need to ruin my body , falling apart, by scrubbing shower stalls and floors, when a nice loving husband should have me in one piece, and able to help him? that was the arrangement when i was married, i did all the housework,errands, took care of the kids, got repair work done, ect ect, and he worked and then came home to a hot meal and did what i could not physically do like fix the car. it was 50 50. its the alcohol and regrets that ruined our marriage. it never was just the religion for us, it was the beer, he wasnt a jw when we got married. and he hasn't been in years. but beer, it ruined his body,and his mind, his mood, and his desire. and ended his marriage.
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ladies , its not just me, is it?..
by sowhatnow inok ladies, has there been any documented studies on the role religion or society plays in keeping women in an economical and social disadvantaged state ?
im wondering how many other women out there in the world, who either being raised or being long term followers of a strict religious faith,with traditional family structures, have upon either divorce or death of a spouse find it nearly impossible to find a mate or economic stability , and live out the remainder of their lives struggling and either bouncing from one guy to another, being disappointed or used, or simply alone.
i have personally felt, that i, being a xjw and now divorced woman , with no acceptable work skills,[ ie: fancy resume with degrees] living of low wage part time work and barely any alimony , will simply be viewed as someone trying to get another man to support her.
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ok ladies,
has there been any documented studies on the role religion or society plays in keeping women in an economical and social disadvantaged state ?
Im wondering how many other women out there in the world, who either being raised or being long term followers of a strict religious faith,with traditional family structures, have upon either divorce or death of a spouse find it nearly impossible to find a mate or economic stability , and live out the remainder of their lives struggling and either bouncing from one guy to another, being disappointed or used, or simply alone.
I have personally felt, that I, being a xjw and now divorced woman , with no ‘acceptable’ work skills,[ ie: fancy resume with degrees] living of low wage part time work and barely any alimony , will simply be viewed as someone trying to get another man to support her.
wanting to have a marriage mate, is more for the reasons of love and companionship and family, belonging, not simply for the reason of having a home and support.
I see many profiles of men on dating sites, where they have the statement
“ she should be an independent career minded woman who knows what she wants”
to mean little more to me than ‘ have your own job and money‘ they are not looking to be married.
many are up front in saying they want just to date or have sex or short/long term relationships.
men who are over 45 typically are homeowners, and have good paying jobs, relative security in a company, and college degrees, they simply do not NEED a woman for any other reason than sex. And for many women who are quite independent , that also would be the case.
I have found with the two men i dated, that they have trouble finding things to talk about, they have basically lived their lives, raised kids, worked, did all the globetrotting, the vacation fun stuff, more or less, you see all the photos of their vacations ect, reaching retirement, and now they cannot express what exactly it is that they want, In fact having so little to say of any meaning. they often have been living alone for years, are addicted to tv, or work, [have an established weekly ‘schedule’, they wont deviate from even to date,] and so the typical housewife duties are not needed from a woman. i found
both of them saying the same line to me,
‘ Im looking for honesty, companionship, and commitment”
while not providing that themselves for the woman they date! .
going through how many, looking for what, I think they do not know.
the assumption, that women like myself, who left a loveless marriage, and has lost most of her material assets, pets, extended family members, now struggles to pay bills in a tiny apartment, are not viewed as ‘good loving mates‘ but taking on someones OLD BURDENS. so far Ive not been given the chance to show what sort of person I am. they see my situation a it is now and draw a conclusion in their minds as to my motive.
this mentality, is damaging to women in general. for I have always felt that way in my marriage for the past 35 years. that i was just another chore, that had to be dealt with.
which seems more likely, society, or religion, or both? that has forced these social troubles on us?just curious, is it me, or everyone else, lol am I doing it all wrong?
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July Broadcast Scriptural Error- FDS/Helper Fail.
by Hold Me-Thrill Me inhe has inadvertently moved the timing of the beginning of the last days to the future.
this kind of scriptural error is the direct result of superficial bible reading.
according to luke 21, first comes the persecution then the wars, earthquakes, food shortages, fearful sights etc.
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Id assume the majority of those listening to it wont catch it, [or much of anything] wont remember much of what was said, and never talk about it or repeat it. i can see my parents siting there clueless was to what is being said. the glitz and the glam distract them, they are just so tickled they have 'their' own channel they cant think strait. ooo how amazing, got to keep up with the times, lol, like they always have? oo how cute cartoons... [barf] and I say to my mom, its nothing less than tv evangelism. she cant see it.
the easy way to 'accept' the nonsense spewing forth from the tv is to not have enough thinking ability to see through it children are clueless the elderly are clueless, and the others in between are to bust and stressed to care.
it doesn't sink in anyway. you sit there listen and pretend you know whats being said, while having not a damn clue what any of it has to do with Jesus teachings
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The first 4000 years Jehovah communicates with humans,the next 2000 years is given to Jesus and he communicates with no one.
by smiddy inthe bible has ample evidence of god communicating with humans during the first 4 centuries.. since jesus time ,god has not communicated with humans at all .,in the same way as he did in the first 4 centuries .. in fact jesus has not communicated with humans in the same way as jehovah did for the first 4000 years., during his 2000 years to this date , .
does not the bible say , god does not change , he is the same today as he was yesterday and will be tomorrow ?.
so why was god communicating with humans on a regular basis , one way or another for 4000 years and then , neither jehovah or his son jesus christ ever directly contacted humans ?.
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my jw mom would explain it this way:
because we now have the bible so we don't need any personal contact with them,,,,,
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The paradox of the WTBTS
by coalize inon one hand, wtbts blame you if you choose to work instead of pioneering, and on the another hand, they ask crazily amount of money!.
isn't it paradoxal ?.
if every jw leave his job and pioneer, no more money!.
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yes this is the thing i always took issue with, they want you to donate, but teach that to go to college and get a better education to make good money so that you CAN donate is wrong, is talk coming out of a fools mouth.
how on earth do they plan to maintain their little kingdom on earth when all the subjects are lowly poor peasants? lol
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Massive Growth in Dub Numbers???
by 1rebelheart inso, i left about 5 years ago and at that time, the official ruling on number of members was a little over 6 million.
i google jw out of boredom the other day and find they are now claiming 8 million members.
sooooo.... hold on 2 million increase in 5 years?
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what an interesting find for me
by sowhatnow inim sure to use this the next time i accidentally get sucked into an argument with someone.
im not ever understanding the idea behind any christian religion picking and choosing what they want to believe and follow, then have the nerve to claim they are right, when clearly this is obviously done.
here is a site that shows not only how bloodthirsty and evil the god of the hebrew bible was, but how more ridiculous it is for jws to follow one twisted 'commandment' about eating blood, not only reading it wrong, but then not to do all the other commandments, willingly , do they think they are ancient israelites ?
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bingo punkofnice,
personal interpretation indeed.
that crazy 'book of scripture' [along with that of Nostradamus and other prophetic type of writings] was written and later loosely assembled deliberately to cause a never ending source of debate .
good going mr devil... what a way to divide the human race
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What instructions came with the new brochure?
by dubstepped inlike the title says, i'm wondering if anyone here knows what instructions came with the new brochure about returning to jehovah.
did each person get a certain number at the convention?
are they to be handed out at will, up to each publisher's individual discretion?
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sowhatnow
but i thought it was jesus who we were to have faith in? is it not he that was given all the judging? is it not his name we should call on for salvation? hmm was it not he who was given the right to rule?
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Why would Jehovah and Jesus talk to Satan?
by hardtobeme inif satan is the greatest apostate there is, why he was allowed to be in heaven?
job chapters 1 and 2 says that jehovah talked to him.
wasn't jehovah supposed to shun his son and set an example to all parents?.
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i always wondered why Jesus would go with Satan so he could tempt him
Matthew 4
1.Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.
5.Then the Devil took Him to the holy city, had Him stand on the pinnacle of the temple,and said to Him, "If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down. For it is written: He will give His angels orders concerning you, and they will support you with their hands so that you will not strike your foot against a stone."
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Again, the Devil took Him to a very high mountain and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.9And he said to Him, "I will give You all these things if You will fall down and worship me.
hmm now how did Jesus see 'all the kingdoms of the world?' because he did not.
why would he be led by Satan?
[ i dont believe it as it is written to be true, its is a story, for there is no purpose or logic to that whole event in my mind]
since when did Satan own all the kingdoms of the world where did he earn that right.not what the scriptures say.
anyway, its like deliberately going along with your brother knowing hes an a@#Hole and letting him jerk around with you and argue. to prove what pray tell.