Posts by sowhatnow

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Elders now ORDERED by the Org to fleece the sheep

by The Searcher in

the org is now demanding money from the witnesses, via the latest letter sent to elders regarding the circuit's excess funds.

succeeded in getting elders everywhere to hand over their own congregation's "excess funds" - now their circuit's bank balances are going to be plundered.. the spineless and subservient elders will cooperate without a whimper, because they're afraid of losing their little bit of power which the org has bestowed upon them.

(john 11:48).

sowhatnow

so let me get this strait, aside from simple logic , that a building needs maintenance at times, and funds need to be immediately available [for example a furnace breaks down or the roof needs a repair, or the lot needs plowed]

And OMG, if any member happens to need some sudden financial help,[not that I have ever heard of anyone getting money from the congregation funds for a necessity ] Elders , cannot use their positions, as 'allowed' and granted to them by the society, lol, as to what is best for their particular congregations?

gee what next no elders? if elders need to pass every thing they do on to the GB, for approval, then who needs elders? then elders are not more than police for the GB government. sort of takes away the desire to give a crap.

at what point does a person think, 'gee, our body of elders is every bit as smart as those guys so why do we need the GB to tell us whats best to do for our hall? they claim to not be perfect, they dont know our specific needs or situation, we can handle it ourselves'.

It doesn't click in the old brain that they are overlords controlling everything. and that by defending them it is idol worship.

I recall my mom saying to me once, 'well you need bothers to lead, and I said, "well how are brothers made elders, and half your age, smarter than you?' [knowing full well she had disagreed with something they did in the past] If I tell you something mom, you tell me Im a fool and misled, and Im more knowledgeable than they are about the bible to begin with".

well that conversation ended.

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Hypothetical question. There is no more guns on our streets, would the crime rate go down?

by James Mixon in

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it would eliminate drive by's (gangs).

bank robbery.

( handing the bank teller a note, this is stick up without a gun).

sowhatnow

I do feel that not just anyone should be able to own a weapon that shoots many rounds per minuet, those should only be for foot soldiers in active war situations, and even then i don't agree with it. if every soldier had to shoot only one bullet at a time seems to me less people would get killed,lol. the man who invented the gun was evil.

i heard a politician express the problem with background checks and guns being sold by private owners, say selling your gun to a relative or friend.well, all those 'sales' should be done at the notary public, like selling a used car. and the purchaser should pay 15 dollars for a background check. there should be a 'title' to go with a gun. maybe?

So,now lest think this way, what if everyone on the planet had a gun hanging on their hip in plain sight? what would the mood be?

a weapon is an inanimate object, the intent of the person carrying it is the whole problem. It would be interesting to me to know how many of those persons who use guns to shoot people have been mentally troubled, on prescription anti anxiety or drugs for mental conditions, or were brainwashed into a certain line of thinking.

we have, depressed country kids who go off the deep end, unhappy marriages, miserable over worked people, or radical thinking people, radical, religious beliefs or gangs shooting for drugs or other material wants.

all people who are not really happy. so sad.

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Elders now ORDERED by the Org to fleece the sheep

by The Searcher in

the org is now demanding money from the witnesses, via the latest letter sent to elders regarding the circuit's excess funds.

succeeded in getting elders everywhere to hand over their own congregation's "excess funds" - now their circuit's bank balances are going to be plundered.. the spineless and subservient elders will cooperate without a whimper, because they're afraid of losing their little bit of power which the org has bestowed upon them.

(john 11:48).

sowhatnow

So, is this to be read publicly? , or is it that the elders all agree privately to send excess funds in?

is there to be any vote on it? [sorry, I cant read the letter, Im not downloading any program on my computer to read it which his what was asked of me when i clicked on the link]

At what point will the congregations become aware of this? will there be a round about way of slipping the info in the local announcements so that the audience doesn't really 'hear' what is being said? maybe just hanging the cryptic letter it on the info board?

If its to be disclosed to the public , will the elders can choose how to 'break the news' by way of a clever one sentence gloss over? how creative can they be?

'and so that leaves us with $ 23.80, in excess for our monthly expenses for the month of December.. 'we have $300.00. funds on hand in our repair savings,and that we will be sending those on to the society as they requested'...[leaving us with a zero balance]

now, lets all listen to Brother Walkedallover as he shares with us ,

'How to be content with the things we have' ....

what meeting I wonder will that news be made known?

wish I could be a fly on the podium so I can see all the expressions of irritation and confusion .

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It seems the 'end' might come by way of humans stupidity, not a plan of a god

by sowhatnow in

http://www.sciencealert.com/it-s-official-we-re-on-the-brink-of-earth-s-sixth-mass-extinction.

pretty obvious, we've deforested the planet so much it cant clean the air, we've polluted the water so much its not fit to drink, we've poisoned the soil so much it cant grow food, we use so many chemicals, its killing off the insects who pollinate.

so while on post on this site claims the end of freedom for mankind, by way of evil governments, .

sowhatnow

exactly

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Scriptures that will never be the YEAR TEXT

by ttdtt in

so what scriptures do you think will never make the cut?i will start off with one to warm you all up.. 1 corinthians 4:6 - do not go beyond the things that are written,.

sowhatnow

1st Corinthians 3 vs 11 [new world 2014]
For no one can lay any other foundation than what is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

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It seems the 'end' might come by way of humans stupidity, not a plan of a god

by sowhatnow in

http://www.sciencealert.com/it-s-official-we-re-on-the-brink-of-earth-s-sixth-mass-extinction.

pretty obvious, we've deforested the planet so much it cant clean the air, we've polluted the water so much its not fit to drink, we've poisoned the soil so much it cant grow food, we use so many chemicals, its killing off the insects who pollinate.

so while on post on this site claims the end of freedom for mankind, by way of evil governments, .

sowhatnow

DJS, my avatar might look hysterical, But Im not, lol.

sure there are articles that show how things have gotten better, between Smithsonian, wired ,and the Atlantic and scientific American, maybe i recall a few. however Im thinking its more of like when a parent tells a teenager over and over again, to clean his room, and he doesn't, then as an adult turns into a hoarder.

I cant believe how many people I know who are so terribly wasteful.

you have to start early with the lectures, because people suffer in the long term waiting for them to ACT on what is already known to be a solution. yes the technology is there, [often with good intentions at first but them turns out not to be so great, and then they backpedal] and always has been, its how you get a billion people to GET OFF THEIR A$@$ and do something before every drop of water is toxic, every beautiful butterfly and bird and animal we've ever knows is lost. just sayin.

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YMCA ? Are we allowed to go there or not?

by Quarterback in

half of our congregation goes there to work out because of the good pool facilities and prices, and the other half think that it's wrong due to it's old charter.

but no one is enforcing the wrong or right of it.

i'd be interested in knowing how this is being applied worldwide.

sowhatnow

the ones in my area are independently owned and operated and have nothing to do with any religious organization. just like Goodwill thrift stores, not run my religious org, they're simply independent neighborhood stores. maybe sort of franchise of sorts. I guess then there are silly nit picky extreme nuts that think its not ok to go to a hospital that has a name on it that starts with a saint? seriously? that might be the only hospital in the whole area. so,because a religious organization does GOOD for strangers, the WT criticized them? where are the Watchtower elementary schools? the Watchtower Gyms? the Watchtower hospitals? the Watchtower soup kitchens? The watchtower donation centers? ect..

why they wont even allow at the kingdom hall to be used for activities . so the building just sits there being used for so little while people are often bored all winter with so little association, a kingdom hall would have make a nice place to go play games and have fun, but noooo, cant do that! gasp! no instead money is spent renting out a building, most likely owned by someone who goes to some church, lol

here is the scripture that says just that thing, that those who do good even if they are not of the same 'cult' , will not loose their reward mark ch 9.

38“Teacher,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us.”

39“Do not stop him,” Jesus said. “For no one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, 40for whoever is not against us is for us. 41Truly I tell you, anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to the Messiah will certainly not lose their reward.

just sayin,

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I never understood field service...

by Joliette in

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it was always boring, and i was afraid that i was gonna get attacked by a dog.

i actually almost got attacked by a rottweiler once.

i didnt get paid for it, nobody listened to us, i actually had guys make passes at me while i was out doing street corner, i was always afraid i would get grouped and raped.

sowhatnow

I always asked my mom how it is that other religious faiths dont go door to door yet they have more members.

I knew for a long time door to door was not a 'command' for people and thus stopped years before i left. [and funny no one questioned me]

One would reason, if the world is such a bad place with such evil minded people, and yes risky people, WHY on earth would you send two children or women to a strangers door, in bad areas or secluded areas and basically trespass on someones property for no reason other that to tell them they believe wrong? how is that an attractive faith to belong to? lol

Its no more than harassment IMO. I never felt that it was proper to do such a thing.

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I found the WTBTS 990-T's Income Tax Returns for 2010-2013, and it shows their book value of all their assets

by LevelThePlayingField in

there are two sources online to get these pdfs.

https://www.citizenaudit.org/111857820/ lists 2010-2013 ( i would prefer this link because it's the most up to date).

http://www.guidestar.org/viewpdf.aspx?pdfsource=0&ein=11-1857820 lists 2010-2012. book value of all assets at end of year: (can be found on the 990-t for on top left on 1st page).

sowhatnow

so, lets see, ' jah' has 'removed' his 'holy spirit', because they are loosing support . hmm.

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The FINAL DAYS are here !!!

by Calebs Airplane in

according to this jw video... now is the time to preach without fear!

now that the final days are here!.

the final days were not here previously (as they kept insisting for over 140 years)... but now they are!.

sowhatnow

but what about this news?

http://www.sciencealert.com/it-s-official-we-re-on-the-brink-of-earth-s-sixth-mass-extinction