Posts by sowhatnow

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How do you feel about the expression "The Truth"?

by stuckinarut2 in

jw
friends

it's amazing how the expression "the truth" has become such an ingrained term used by witnesses.. "we have 'the truth'".

"is he 'in the truth'?".

most here have found out so many facts about the organisation, and felt the effects of being "gut-punched" as we realised these facts.. so how do you feel about the expression "the truth" now?.

sowhatnow

Redundant,

I always was annoyed at the expression 'in the truth' IN? lol .

its just like an exclusive club.

you cant even say , know the truth, because clearly they do not.

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Elder Mentioning an "Apostate Problem"

by Simon Templar in

i bumped into a sister that i have known for at least 40 years or so.

we were catching up.

she and her husband have been in the truth for decades.

but seriously, how on earth is the members of any cong supposed to interpret such talk going on about people who think they are 'anointed' partaking , as being mentally unstable? everyone doing that will be suspect.

that , [fortunately] undermines anyone's claim of being a chosen one.

this can also make some Jws question where elders get off assuming such things. is it for them to judge?

and naturally, those ones who 'think' [suddenly] they are above everyone else, are going to have less and less friends, as I for one would avoid them like a plague.

now, in that particular cong mentioned , with the several 'women' claiming that, there will of course be quite a stir, and after all, there are no scriptures to back up that women are of the 144,000.

a hinge comeeth loose, lol

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The WT in 10 years time

by Coded Logic in

a. in 2026 in what state do you think the organization will be?.

) 9million + members.

) roughly the same amount of members as today (7-9 million)..

sowhatnow

who, DO they actually count as members? do they still count inactive people? DF people?,

babies?

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I can't let go of this obsession...

by juandefiero in

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friends

i really want to let go of the exjw obsession.

but i can't.

i keep coming here and other sites several times a day.i want to shout from the rooftops to my family and friends and say, "it's all a lie!

sowhatnow

i feel your pain.

[yea, our jw shows up in the most annoying places...]

Thats why my old friend made the conclusion,

[when she and I had a discussion about teachings a while back]. she said to me,

" if we leave, were misfits in society, our brains are one way, but we want it another, and at this point, were too old to start over'

she decided to abandon me, stick with the org, continue to go along,

of course shes 'weak'. she does what she wants.

Im all by myself in my quest, lol , there isnt a person I know that is an xjw. I just wish somehow i knew who had thoughts like mine at the old cong i went to.

ive heard of one in my area, but was never at all familiar with them.

but oddly id bank on at least half a dozen people at this site who know at least one if not more of my large still in jw extended family, they were quite the popular ones in the Pittsburgh area.

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The WT in 10 years time

by Coded Logic in

a. in 2026 in what state do you think the organization will be?.

) 9million + members.

) roughly the same amount of members as today (7-9 million)..

sowhatnow

3 all the way,

I cant see it being around at all in 50 years actually , at least not in the form that we know today.

its already changed since I was a teen.

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Brooklyn news on sending the elderly packing

by I am a Bible Student in

johnny the bethelite on this program talks about the older bethelites being targeted by watchtower.they are getting rid of those at bethel who are 65-87 years old, some being anointed even the widows of former governing body members who gave decades of loyal service time to the watchtower organization.. the reasons the very elderly are being expelled are money in that for their age range they cost so much to cloth, fed, and medicate, having problems from high blood pressure to dementia.

they include persons such as sister henschel whose husband had been a watchtower president and marian sydlik whose parents are long dead.. https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/jan-16-2016-johnny-the-bethelite-watchtower-insider-host-his-radio-program-from-brooklyn-ny .

sowhatnow

regardless,

has the GB encouraged those ones leaving all their assets behind, to invest in stocks or an IRA or some means of income, while living at the jw slave resort? Have they encouraged the new arrivals to have a meeting with one of there lawyers about investing? is there some sort of retirement arrangement for these people?

They know these people cannot seriously stay there till they die, and having so many people in their 'care' of course they must provide some means of health care.

in this light, it is a corporation,[as we all know it to be] and as such ,should be paying taxes on the 'incomes' of those who work for them. even a non profit has a duty to compensate people.

to do otherwise is foolish, neglectful, disrespectful, and outright ignorant .

do not the GB THEMSELVES consist of men of that age??

where do they get off thinking they are not going to be getting dementia? Im sure they have plans...

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WT Study 1/10/16 Encouraging Child Baptism And More Nonsense

by JW_Rogue in

i've noticed that each wt lesson really only has one or two points they want remembered.

normally they build up to these by about the third subheading.

this week's lesson though was different, the main point was insidiously made through an experience in the first paragraph:.

sowhatnow

tornintwo , you noticed that too?

years ago i started to notice the negativity in the lessons, and started to take a highlighter marker and highlighted every negative word or sentence. you can imagine how much of the article was covered. i wondered where is all the admonition to help and be friends with people? where was the light load??

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Star Killer Base discovered

by Coded Logic in

dimming star remains mystery, but it's likely not caused by comets.

remember that space anomaly of the dimming star that had everyone crying "aliens"?

well, it's still as mysterious as ever.

sowhatnow

"There is estimated to be in our galaxy alone a trillion planets. And we can see 100 billion galaxies," Shostak said. "It's believed that one in 10 stars may have a habitable world capable of supporting life."

That alone totally blows my mind.... how this is even known to man, is just as amazing.

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A possible reason why the GB are becoming more demanding as things worsen

by Listener in

basically because they feel they are not being blessed.. this is not to say that all gb members feel this way.

the power hungry ones love getting the whip out.

the other members incorrectly look to the old testament for answers.. they are telling the sheep to be faithful, dedicated, self sacrificing, serving to the fullest, whole hearted and obedient.

sowhatnow

does anyone in that organization look around and wonder why after all these years, they are still nagging about all that shit? I mean to constantly have to 'remind' people to DO DO DO, should make a person think somethings up.

I mean, if someone is sitting at a meeting, and reading that and thinks, 'Gee I do all this, I don't need to be reminded' they should start to think, 'gee, so that suggests there must be so many 'others' that aren't doing their best, but I know thats not the case.'

Now think, HOW would the 'society' know that, unless elders were reporting that their congregation is lacking in effort?? are they spies in the homes of JWs? do they know what problems people face every day? financial, health, ect? just life in general.

no of course not. they have not a clue how it is on the outside. how dare they push. are they spending 40 + hours a week working, coming home to a family, and then having to prepare for 'service and meetings' taking up all the time with the family? no they dont.

and if you are an elder, you know how difficult it is, and are most likely not going to 'rat out' another stressed out person. seriously, how the hell do they arrive at such a conclusion that all Jws need these constant nagging reminders?

people are getting real tired of the accusations and greed.

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WT Study 1/10/16 Encouraging Child Baptism And More Nonsense

by JW_Rogue in

i've noticed that each wt lesson really only has one or two points they want remembered.

normally they build up to these by about the third subheading.

this week's lesson though was different, the main point was insidiously made through an experience in the first paragraph:.

sowhatnow

ill have to read the article to see what scriptures 'support' a belief that they used to criticize [ when done by other religions ] probably none.

not to mention ,Ive not seen child or 'teen' baptism mentioned in the bible. [or anything leading one to conclude there was]. the only kind of baptism I can see that was spoke of in the bible is that of those converting to the law of Israel, and becoming 'believers'.

This is one main thing that I had come to detest, and helped to catapult me right on out.

how dare they prey on young people when they are emotionally immature, and abuse the power and rights of parents. even Jesus, someone who was supposed to be 'perfect' [yea a perfect follower of the law] was 30 yrs old before he started his ministry. if we were followers of Christ, non of the Jws should be doing 'service' until they were 30. 'the age of maturity'.lol

I recall making that comment once at a watchtower lesson, i think there was a paragraph about marriage, and how you should be careful with your 'emotions' and desires, and not let them lead you to getting married too soon. they were discussing maturity issues, and I mentioned, that Jesus was 30 yrs old when he got baptized, and he was a perfect man, so anyone younger than that in my opinion may wish to make extra sure they know what they are getting into.lol I wonder how that went over in the minds of those elders?