Posts by kairos

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where have the demons gone?

by aboveusonlysky in

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friends

does anybody remember some of the sensational demon stories jw's would tell back in the day?

i was a kid in the early 80's and i remember a few times hearing of people having real life encounters with demons.

for example, one sister claimed that before she became a jdub she would regularly talk to demons and they would even fix stuff like her washing machine!

kairos

From the Live Forever book:

pg 96

RESISTING WICKED SPIRIT ATTACKS

17 What should you do if a “voice” from the spirit world speaks to you? What if the “voice” pretends to be a dead relative or a good spirit? Well, what did Jesus do when the “ruler of the demons” spoke to him? (Matthew 9:34) He said: “Go away, Satan!” (Matthew 4:10) You can do that too. Also, you can call on Jehovah for help. Pray out loud and use God’s name. Remember that he is more powerful than are wicked spirits. Follow this wise course. Do not listen to such voices from the spirit world. (Proverbs 18:10; James 4:7) This does not mean that everyone who hears “voices” is being spoken to by demons. At times the hearing of voices can be traced to certain physical or mental illnesses.

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Remote Translation Offices (RTO) of Jehovah's Witnesses

by Brokeback Watchtower in

what do you think about these things.

it seems like a monumental waste of time and money, a pipe dream of the governing body based on wishful thinking.

this corporation is going down the tubes with these asshole deluded genius's calling the financial investment shot.. buying chemical dump property around the world to build their financial empire headquarters on while facing massive child molestation lawsuits now and many more in the future means it looking kind of bleak for these messed idiots running things.. http://jw-branchoffices.blogspot.com/p/watchtower-remote-translation-offices.html.

kairos

They're a real estate investment company disguised as a religion.

They're investing... What did we expect?

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Got my JC cancelled... (at least for now)

by Sanchy in

jw
friends

so my wife and i have been in the process of fading for a few months now as per my original post here.

about a week ago, i was browsing some ex-jw facebook groups when i saw a post that linked to the crisis of conscience book.

i said "f@(k it" and hit share on it.. a few hours later, i get a long text letter from my mom (who was a fb friend of mine) telling me the typical "good luck finding friends in the world" and how we have "nothing in common anymore"; basically, it was a 'farewell' text.

kairos

please record the meeting.

Sorry to hear you are going through this.
I would have DA'd if I had to do this over again.
Cut them off from this point onward if you can.

If you can manage completely ignoring them and walking away, I can't recommend it higher. This is your life and they are ruining it.

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The borg is fighting tooth and nail to not turn over sex abuse records, and the press is taking note :)

by EndofMysteries in

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/12/jehovahs-witnesses-under-pressure-over-handling-of-sexual-abuse-claims.

kairos

This needs to happen.

Justice is coming.

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Three graphs in connection with the Watch Tower's current financial situation

by slimboyfat in

a number of public statements by the governing body indicate that they are experiencing financial difficulty and they have appealed to jws to donate more money.

public information on the financial situation of the watchtower society is limited.

but what does the information they do publish indicate about their situation?

kairos

It wouldn't surprise me if the leadership receives money in a secret way.

As in, illegal payments/payroll disguised as 'expenses'.

I am convinced the deception is premeditated and planned for maximum profits. I hope this is proven true and the criminals at the top are brought to justice for their evil practices.

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Perfect Example of JW Dumbing Down

by thedepressedsoul in

just take a look at this video.

i think arguing or debating scriptures is the most pointless thing ever.

everything at their meetings are so basic with no explanation.

kairos

I got out just before the use of tablets and videos as presentations.

My wife admitted she doesn't bring a paper copy of the Bible to the door anymore. It's unbelievable.

Part of the video that bothered me, was the complete lack of respect when the man was reading form his bible. The sister was,'mmm hmm', 'yeah', while searching her tablet for a scripture to defend her beliefs, all the while ignoring the thoughts of those she is supposedly showing love toward. Shameful. Listen how many times she interrupts him while he is speaking.

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What will happen when they go full cult mode

by RobertT18 in

and they start delivering their message of judgment?

what do you think will happen when they start knocking on doors and telling people that their families will be killed in armageddon because they did not believed in jehovah.

i'm curious how people will react.

kairos

They will never switch to a message of judgement.

It's one of many scary things that must happen prior to Harm-u-gettin.

Gog's attack, the Assyrian, persecution, kings of north/south, attack on Babylon the Great, Great Tribulation, bunker life...

It just goes on and on.

It another thing to fear that acts as a control mechanism to maintain cult membership.

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Do they prepare for preaching or do they socialize?

by never a jw in

my brother (a jw for 30 years) and i purchased a duplex.

he lives in one house, i live in the other, our common area separating both houses is the backyard.

we both can see each other's house across our common backyard.

kairos

Oh... and out of territory calls that are never home.

'Start your time' at a laundry-matte, then a two hour round trip with a coffee break in the middle...

< zealous "christians" >

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Do they prepare for preaching or do they socialize?

by never a jw in

my brother (a jw for 30 years) and i purchased a duplex.

he lives in one house, i live in the other, our common area separating both houses is the backyard.

we both can see each other's house across our common backyard.

kairos

It became the custom that immediately after the morning text, the group would drive straight to the coffee shop.

Drive back and forth across town, wasting time without really doing anything except gossip or talk about the fun stuff they did or are planning to do after 'service'. Rarely talking to anyone.

Another JW told me once, he counts the time he had set aside to preach.
It didn't matter what the group did. He counted the time.

The yearly totals are completely fabricated and mean nothing.

I can't believe I never faked my time. What a waste!

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Early morning service was a colossal joke as well.
Meet at 7:00am. Drive to private laundry rooms in apartment complexes leaving magazines on the appliances.

Usually, the old mags were still there or in the trash can. Sometimes torn in pieces.

The most pathetic part was when this would be carried out from a 6 or more passenger van. You'd be out for two hours and only get out a few times, just to switch out the old mags and count the placement.
The rest of the time, drinking coffee and eating snacks and chatting it up. Such a waste...

< preaching >

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Another brother steps back

by konceptual99 in

jw
friends

so at the meeting this week it was announced that a certain brother was no longer serving as a ministerial servant.. this is a guy who was brought up in a different country as his family went to serve where the need was greater.

this is a guy who was home schooled and went straight into pioneering.

he then went and worked on building projects in various places in europe and africa.

kairos

I had quite the experience when I resigned as a MS.

I told one elder, in person, that I no longer want to be a servant.
I also said, I do not want to talk to anyone about it.

They bought that!

They cut me loose within a week or so.

Funny part of the story is the elder running the first part of the meeting pulls me aside and confesses to me of his previous deletion(s) and offered to let me open the meeting in prayer.

I took that. It was amazing.
I'm sure people were freaking out, especially since I answered three more times after the announcement during the remainder of the meeting.

It was the start of a solid fade.
Then they triggered me...