Then add in the paper, envelopes and postage involved in the Russian 'letter writing campaign' that back fired....
Posts by kairos
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13How much paper has the WT used to print its publications?
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i am doing a crazy stat: how many pieces of paper has the wt ever published?.
i don't have the answer yet, but.... i do have the approximate answer for the awake!
and the watchtower magazines.... get ready... it's a whopping 1.1 trillion pages!.
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Are JWs capable of a genuine discussion?
by stuckinarut2 ini was just pondering whether jws are capable of having a calm, in depth discussion about religious or faith topics?.
i have just finished listening to a great podcast by "dogma debate" (dan) episode 333. this fantastic, in-depth conversation between a theist and an atheist was a masterful example of how a dignified conversation can take place without it resorting to abruptness or even nastiness.. jws on the other hand seem incapable of having such discussion without ending up in the following ways:.
1)they get dogmatic and defensive if a differing view is presented.. 2)if the conversation doesn't go their way, they cut it short saying something like "well, we had better agree to disagree" or the like.. so why the arrogance?
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kairos
sadly, this describes most conversations with my still-in wife.
< she's going to wait on Jehovah >I asked her if that means following whatever the GB tell you to do and believe until you die?
That didn't go over very well.
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New to the truth
by MatthewHewey ini have been meeting with member's of the kingdom hall, and i have attended a few times now on sundays.
i'd like to discuss experiences with this group since i'm new.
so far, i love it.
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kairos
There is no shortage of detailed accounts of ruined lives of those that left JWs.
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Would You Go To A Memorial Service For A JW )if you were no longer attending the KH)?
by minimus insome of my old jw friends are sickly and getting on in age.
so far, i’ve only gone to my mother’s memorial and have avoided the kingdom hall altogether.... your thoughts please?.
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kairos
I actually quit attending memorials at the KH several years before my exit.
They really frown upon crying and emotion.
As if it is 'wrong'.
I need to mourn in a natural, healthy way that may include crying.---
Can you even imagine this scenario:
My JW wife dies and I agree to go to her memorial.
She's well loved, so it would be a full house.Me, admitted apostate, what? When do i come in? Late. Sit in the back?
Would they even mention me in the talk?
Would anyone acknowledge me on any level?After years of shunning, could anyone not see the hypocrisy?
I'll stand out front with my own makeshift memorial and simple message for all to read as they drive in:
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Would You Go To A Memorial Service For A JW )if you were no longer attending the KH)?
by minimus insome of my old jw friends are sickly and getting on in age.
so far, i’ve only gone to my mother’s memorial and have avoided the kingdom hall altogether.... your thoughts please?.
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kairos
Never. Not for anyone.
The entire JW experience is so disgusting, there would be no reason.
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Flat earth vs round earth
by Jrjw inmy brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
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kairos
Methinks kairos has checked out of reality
He has decided to run his own showI'm changing my story.
I'm actually Geoffrey Jackson, trolling you all!
It's a psyop to get you apostates off my ass after my lies at the ARC.You heard it here first.
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Flat earth vs round earth
by Jrjw inmy brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
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kairos
Methinks kairos has checked out of reality
He has decided to run his own showQuite possible. I give you that.
Good thing, too.I recommend you live life to the fullest. Chase your dreams.
Ironically, it seems I'm viewed as a reality apostate on a JW apostate web site!
First JW apostate DFd from my congregation and local area, too. ( admitted apostasy, even! )---
Do I run around spewing flat earth nonsense in my day to day?
Nope. I'm fairly anonymous here. Although I do not 'hide who I am'®, if you want to know who I am. There's an easter egg for any of you bored enough.
Plus, after losing some good friends, I don't bring it up very often, if ever in the real world. PIMO, among society, if you will.Put all of that in your pipe and smoke it!!
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Flat earth vs round earth
by Jrjw inmy brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
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kairos
For those following along at home, listen to this:
My loudest laugh of ALL will be watching that spinning globe on JW Broadcast.
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Flat earth vs round earth
by Jrjw inmy brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
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kairos
Again, I was indoctrinated along with all of you. There was a globe in my classroom, too.
You're just telling me the official story we ALL know and can recite and I have no intention of arguing 'doctrine' with any of you.I'll just drop bread crumbs.
You pick them up or you ignore them.
Red pill or Blue pill, if you will.
( feel free to ignore me. This ain't my thread )---
I never enjoyed being told what to think or believe as a dub.
Like so many, I never researched the WTBTS history until I quit the meetings.
After that I researched for 6-12 hours a day. 1000s of hours and ( gasp )
YouTube videos! I was forced to honestly admit that it wasn't the truth as much pain and loss that would cause me. Being DFd sealed the deal.Think about the response you might get from a PIMI dub if you blurted out all the failures of Watchtower. Total rejection with a side of shunning!
I'll not tell you what to believe.
That's for you to decide.
---For me, I don't know what was more troubling, awakening to the truth of Watchtower or the Geocentric model
I woke up from the Matrix only to find myself on the Truman Show.
I'm still trying to prove this as wrong. I can't unsee the truth.
I have opened my mind to the existence of a creator again and I enjoy bible verses I never paid attention to or even remember.Maybe this is what 25 years of being in cult will do to a person.
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Flat earth vs round earth
by Jrjw inmy brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
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kairos
I will point you in what I think is the right direction, but you need to be willing to do your own research.
'flight routes on flat earth'
'plane makes emergency landing in alaska'
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Cofty and Morpheus:
Of course, I'm not hateful. I noticed you didn't include a source for your information.
I am my own person and I do not subscribe to some new code, religion or secret society.
This isn't about me... Or you.I will no longer be replying to insults or bullying.
I don't care what you think of this stance.
Your debate style is not enjoyable.---
waton~
I don't knowlike a mobius strip under a glass dome