well, as you all know, my wife (unstuck) and i are not df or da.. we just stopped attending several years back after my "apostate" online activity was found by a nosey employee of ours while she was working in our office (long story if anyone wants to know - it would have to be another thread).
we never met with any elders - no congregation judicial activity occurred (as we would never consent to do so anyway).
so our policy has been to be the same kind, loving, normal people we have always been.
Sorry about the way people treat you that are supposed to love their enemies.
Gotta shout about how they are the 'true religion' because of the love amongst themselves.
They'll never learn.
You can't talk bad about everyone in 'the world' and expect them to be drawn to you.
JWs repel people because of their cruel conduct and reputation.
There's no hiding it anymore.
so the qbs were huge in the 80s and 90s, now i hear nothing.
have they stopped?.
I was just thinking about this today as well.
The quick builds were all part of an elaborate scam.
Free labor and in some cases free/reduced cost materials and in some instances, real estate.
The everyday dub had a sense of 'ownership' or 'entitlement' towards the KH projects.
Nope. Not even close to reality.
Now WT is cashing in their chips and there is not damn thing you can do about it.
It wasn't God's organization. It is a corporate publishing house turned real estate investment company disguised as a religion. ( for profit )
I have likely worked on no fewer than 20 quick builds in Northern California from 1988- the early 2000s. All for the financial gain of WT. We were told it was a great witness to god, when is was in fact, just free labor...
I'm bitter
i have seen so many that have left.
and their life turned into a dumpster fire.
most do not live the average life of living in suburbs, raising a family.
During my 25 year Dub Stint, I must have seen 20 people 'come back'.
Lots do.
Possible reasons:
scared
lonely
guilty
don't fit in elsewhere
family
Power through the pain, leaving is the best choice
i was thinking about this over the weekend.
just this week, there was the "consolidation" talk (in my wife's congregation) , the article about shunning that went viral, and the annual "show your love and obedience to jehovah by giving us your money" watchtower.
i know my wife said people are running scared about this consolidation even though it was sold as maximizing space to help other areas, build kh in other countries, etc...... the media and government has hit them hard in many countries, but they have gotten off easy in the usa, where the majority of the people and money reside.
The religion is just a caricature of itself now.
It'll get to the point, where donating money will be 'service to Jehovah'.
Will they wake up then?
Many will not.
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I don't see a break-away.
It's getting to the point where most JWs have friends or family that they shun.
I wonder how many ex JWs there are compared to active JWs?
what do you think would happen to jehovah's witnesses as a religion and as a people?.
I always fear mass suicides of older ones that have been hanging on for decades.
These are the ones that ignored there better judge from 1975 as adults or younger.
They are already bitter and disgruntled.
They gave up almost every personal goal to slave for a corporation.
"The time left remaining is short."
Now they have to accept the overlapping generation.
Think about it.
president trump is definitely a demagogue, a populist, and not a great extemporaneous speaker, just to mention few of his more conspicuous flaws.
however, i was going along because "it's the economy stupid".
now that has changed.
Trump won't get elected either...
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You got played.
Hillary is a monster.
Trump is just what this country needs
two+ months into marital counseling for my wife (pimi) and i (pimo).
wife after decades of marriage decides for the first time to bring up separation due to, drum-roll please...... absolute endangerment of spiritual life.
a spouse may constantly try to make it impossible for the mate to pursue true worship or may even try to force that mate to break god’s commands in some way.
I've had the therapy for a few different reasons.
PTSD for a bad car accident while I was still a dub, PTSD from a large earthquake I lived through after quitting the dubs. Also, some dub related sessions.
I'm trying to go again.
It's a very simple process and I'm happy to answer any questions if I can.
crazy kim again....could happen?
thoughts?.
We have a strong leader.
will our fearless leaders the gb call a news conference and invite all the major news networks and outlets and put their asses on the line and declare "you are all doomed!
" or will they have the rank and file do all the dirty work while they sit back in their gated corporate country club?!
ask any jdub that question!.
I think so few will participate in this "judgement message".
It's like the GB is trying to wake everyone up.
Maybe they should have Stephen Lett or Tony Morris do a sample door to door presentation so everyone sees how Jesus' brothers do it...
Better yet, just have the dubs show the video at the door.
"This is our leader, listen to his important message..."
< hits play on tablet >
Remember , this was Kevin's pre great tribulation downfall.
Not culty at all, folks
I've enjoyed your comments here.
have a great celebration!!
