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  That good old JW rumour mill

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
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  because i simply decided the watchtower corporation wasn't the truth(tm) i was da'd in a secret jc that i didn't attend.

  i was writing songs with a friend that day instead.. jws wasted no time in labelling me as an evil villain.

  the rumours abounded.. i was labelled as 'a false prophet'.

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  kairos

  People who smiled one day, ignore the next.

  
  

  This is a huge point. I thought they were my friends of 20 plus years.
  WRONG!!
  
  
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  "Confidentiality" of Elders!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  something struck me the other day.. elders are told to maintain confidentiality with regard to the details of judicial cases or congregation "discipline" in an attempt to dignify individuals etc.. this is even the case for known child abusers!.

  yet, if they suspect someone of being an "apostate", for instance being a member on this forum, they will spread such information far and wide, through the witness "grape vine" to congregations miles away (or even in other countries).

  so, does that mean they place more importance on "apostasy" rather than child abuse?.

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  kairos

  Th elders are not shepherds. They are self-important, self-appointed cowards that thrive on what little imagined power they think they possess.

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  I'm looking forward to a face to face meeting between them in the community. They think they are frightened now...
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  That good old JW rumour mill

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  because i simply decided the watchtower corporation wasn't the truth(tm) i was da'd in a secret jc that i didn't attend.

  i was writing songs with a friend that day instead.. jws wasted no time in labelling me as an evil villain.

  the rumours abounded.. i was labelled as 'a false prophet'.

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  kairos

  My situation is similar, Punk.

  I was also DF'd after skipping their secret judoucheal meeting.

  I got the better of all them on the gossip front.

  Right after they sent the invitation ( in Comic Sans font ) accusing me of 'admitted apostasy', I e-mailed the letter to all the gossip mongers in my home town of Napa, Ca. Kinda spoiled the party, when I made the announcement myself well ahead of them.

  Now, I'm the scariest thing ever.

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  From a survivors point of view, as soon as you learn TTATT, exit the JWs. Reclaim what life you have as your own.

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  The night they announced me, I was busy at a music rehearsal, as I have become a professional since my awakening!

  
  
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  "Confidentiality" of Elders!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  something struck me the other day.. elders are told to maintain confidentiality with regard to the details of judicial cases or congregation "discipline" in an attempt to dignify individuals etc.. this is even the case for known child abusers!.

  yet, if they suspect someone of being an "apostate", for instance being a member on this forum, they will spread such information far and wide, through the witness "grape vine" to congregations miles away (or even in other countries).

  so, does that mean they place more importance on "apostasy" rather than child abuse?.

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  kairos

  Amazing quotes.
  

  I never trusted the elders nor would I ever dream of telling them anything.

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  I'm sure we can all think of examples where the private matters of others 'somehow' became common knowledge.

  There's the life of the captive JW in a nut shell:
  Living in fear of destruction by displeasing god or questioning his 'earthly representatives' that nobody really trusts! Wow!

  'Nu Lite' really means, "you shouldn't have trusted us".
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  Fact : 1 We live in the 21st Century Fact : 2 Why do we tolerate Religions of yesteryear that dominate ,interfere with our progress

  by smiddy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  why in this 21st century are we still cow towing to religions that are based in the distant past, of thousands of years ago , whether it be christian islam or whatever.?

  and not to restrict it to just those two , but all ancient religions.. all of them are hypocritical , on the one hand rejecting modern day society and it`s technology and on the other hand embracing it for their own advantage .. when is the human race ever going to rid itself of pie in the sky beliefs.?.

  smiddy.

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  kairos

  If they turn on religion, that will lead to the Great Tribulation©...

  Nobody wants that!
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  July 2016 CLAM videos

  by wifibandit in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p46pnudcub0.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpqeptnux3o.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iijg_-bz-k8.

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  kairos

  For those of us with loved ones under WT's spell, this helps us understand the mental manipulation they are experiencing weekly.

  Having the videos ahead of time is helpful.
  Make a comment with the video in mind, they scoff followed by raging cognitive dissonance when they see the video at a meeting.

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  The 'bunker videos' come to mind.
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  Wild speculation / fearless prediction: how to (continue to) ratchet up the flock's fear

  by sir82 in

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  2. friends

  i've been thinking: what with all the bunker videos at the rc, instilling fear and paranoia and excitement among the masses, what could the gb do as a follow-up?

  how do they feed the flame?.

  how about identifying the "king of the north"?.

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  kairos

  What about the cry of "peace and security" and the attack and destruction of Babylon the Great?

  Seems the only religion the governments are interested in is 'radical Islam', which, suspiciously, WT never mentions.

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  Of course, this all leads to the thousand year reign of fear.
  Satan let out and all of those head band wearing, stick wielding apostate will rise up one last time...

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  Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo
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  Trump could be the new 1914

  by MrTheocratic in

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  2. beliefs

  if wwi did not happen in 1914 the jw religion may not have survived.

  many back then were already disillusioned with the fact that they were not taking to heaven.

  some left.

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  kairos

  When you 'really believe' that the end is always near, time moves right along and you accomplish nothing. Every news story 'proves' this is the last days. Constant anxiety. Loss of focus and productivity outside of the JW weekly schedule goes down or away.

  My observations of the JWs in my life while I was in the cult is that most are putting their lives 'on hold'. They'll enjoy life in Paradise instead.The double lifers are attending for a variety of reasons, but with a different daily fear. Not Armageddon, but detection and DFing.

  It's mental abuse by an investment corporation disguised as a religion.
  I hope the governments put an end to this.

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  Side point:

  There are two documentaries on Netflix right now.
  "The 60s" and "The 70s". Both are well done and put out by CNN.

  Not only are the presentations informative and revealing of the evolution of modern society and the struggle for human rights, it also shows me how world conditions then would have ramped up the fear of the JWs during that time as well.

  As I was born in 1968, I found them fascinating in view of my eventual 25 year stint as a JW starting in 1988.

  I hope they make future documentaries on the 80s and 90s.
  It will be difficult for me to accept I was mentally manipulated to follow a dream cause with no reward. It will help me heal and examine the world reality for what it really is.
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  How long can this cult remain with only kids becoming members?

  by Crazyguy in

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  2. beliefs

  it's become clear that very few from outside the religion are joining anymore.

  if only the kids of the people that are already in are the one replacing the members as they die off and 50% let's say of the kids leave then how long can they realistically last before the downturn becomes obvious?.

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  kairos

  I had the same thought as above: that the advice not to have children was ignored by some ( most ).

  I know many including myself that 'chose' not to have children because of how close to the end we were...

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  I have no children as a direct result of my becoming a JW.
  ( Listened, obeyed, not blessed )
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  At the assembly as I write

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's utterly boring.

  jung from the canadian bethel is drooning on.

  may be the worst assembly ever.

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  kairos

  What can you tell us about the reactions to the videos?