Hey cookiemaster, your post has made me so happy!!! Even if everything goes to absolute crap with your lady friend, one touch, one kiss from someone as great as her is worth soooooo much more than anything you will ever get from the JW's.
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How to avoid getting disfellowshipped for having a wordly girlfriend?
by cookiemaster inhey guys, i've been pimo going on full inactive for a very long time, 5+ years.
pretty happy with the current situation.
over the years, i've gotten lots of grief from the local elders and cos for my inactivity, attending wordly public events and social media posts.
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What to do when you're PIMO and dont want to date a jw?
by nowawake14 inwhat are your thoughts on that?.
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backformore
Date and marry a non-JW and tell the rest of the congregation to fuck off as you have someone who worth more than every single one of them combined even if it all goes to hell and you end up splitting up.
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Money! How much did you "Contribute" To The WTB@TS When You Were A Member
by The Bethelite ini was in full time service for six years including bethel.
once i got out of bethel, i figured i had already given them six of the best years of my life (ages 18-24) working as a slave/drone in their factory, so i rationalized that i had given them enough... so over the next 27 years i would say maybe $200 bucks is it.
i think their whole "voluntary contributions" idea is biting them in the ass, because over all jehovah's witnesses are a cheap group people with a few exceptions.
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backformore
From the time I was born until I was almost 21? Not a damn cent.
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An old memory...
by Biahi inwhen i was newly divorced,still attending meetings, some of the younger married sisters got friendly with me.
we went out (to bars) after the meeting, we hung out, etc.
then one “ friend” asked me for a favor.
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backformore
Wow, what a ho.
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Do You Have ALEXA?
by minimus inwhat’s your opinion of having alexa ?
is it something you would get if you don’t already have it?
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backformore
I freaking love Alexa. I'm too boring for anyone to want to spy on. I do, however love being able to say "Computer, play xxxxxx" and have the music start playing.
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How to avoid getting disfellowshipped for having a wordly girlfriend?
by cookiemaster inhey guys, i've been pimo going on full inactive for a very long time, 5+ years.
pretty happy with the current situation.
over the years, i've gotten lots of grief from the local elders and cos for my inactivity, attending wordly public events and social media posts.
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Also, when I say married for 20+ years, don't take that as me claiming any kind of relationship authority or anything. That's just a testament to marrying an amazingly patient and understanding woman. That's all I can say for being together for so long. -
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How to avoid getting disfellowshipped for having a wordly girlfriend?
by cookiemaster inhey guys, i've been pimo going on full inactive for a very long time, 5+ years.
pretty happy with the current situation.
over the years, i've gotten lots of grief from the local elders and cos for my inactivity, attending wordly public events and social media posts.
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backformore
I was in your position a few times back when I was younger (41 now).
My advice to you? Tell them to fuck off.
Seriously, I went through it a few times trying to be PIMO with a worldly girlfriend. It isn't worth it. When I say it wasn't worth it, I mean trying to be PIMO. Every single girl was totally worth it. There were a few who were really great human beings, ESPECIALLY the one I've been married to for over 20 years now. She's worth more than all my family and friends (JW or not) combined and more.
Don't hang all your JW stuff on her, that's too much. You need to be in a mental state where that stuff doesn't even matter or you're putting more on her than she deserves (been there, done that).
As for your parents being around their grandkids, they're an amazing tool in getting your parents to accept you and your loved ones. Those eventual kids are yours, not theirs. You have the power there. If they want to be in your children's lives, they have to be so on your terms. As your kids get older, they'll understand and appreciate you even more for that stuff (again, speaking from experience).
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Biotech company Amgen helping JW with Anemia
by TheWonderofYou inoiwhen a jw is in a life threatening anemia situation or needs a coronary artery bypass in case of dialysis-dependent chronic renal failure there is bloodless solution: .
epo ....this stands for "erythropoietin" also par in "epoetin" "epogen" and replaces the lost blood seemingly.
it counts to the allowed bloodless therapies.. what was jehovahs part in it?
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backformore
I'm a dialysis RN and have been for a couple years or so. When it comes to that stuff I know it forwards and backwards. I give my patients, both JW and not, Epogen and iron on a daily basis.
If someone is bleeding to death, Epo and iron aren't going to do anything at all. Without a blood transfusions, that person is going to die. Epo is a synthetic version of a hormone your body makes. Most people get plenty of iron through their diet. Healthy people have plenty of both so giving them even more isn't going to do anything other than cost money.
If you are a chronic renal failure patient on dialysis you aren't going to be bleeding to death unless something very very bad happens to your access which is incredibly rare (in two and a half years, I've lost one patient to that and I work in a very large and busy clinic). What most people don't realize about their kidneys is that in addition to filtering out the bad stuff, keep your electrolyte levels in balance, and producing urine is that they also monitor your hemoglobin levels (the amount of red blood cells in your body) and release the real version of Epo to keep your your hemoglobin levels at a good place. When your kidneys don't work and you are on dialysis your kidneys don't make that hormone like they should so the staff at your dialysis clinic will do blood draws to monitor your hemoglobin levels and administer appropriate levels of Epo as prescribed by the doctors to raise and keep your hemoglobin levels good.
Oddly enough, Epogen is still rarely used in those cases. It is the best medicine to somewhat quickly raise hemoglobin levels (it is going to take multiple days at least to raise it a few points) but there are better medicines for long term use such as Aranesp and Mircera.
All that said, that's just for renal failure patients. For cancer patients, the Doctors really have to nail the amount of Epo (or any other similar drugs) just right. Why? To get your hemoglobin levels up to a safe (not good but safe, there is a big difference there) you can't just pump people full of the drug and trust their body to do what it should. These drugs, when given in an amount that would make your hemoglobin levels actually normal compared to the normal population, has one nasty side effect - they feed cancer and make it much worse. Your doctor has to closely monitor your hemoglobin levels (which is done via blood draws which waste blood) and give you a medicine that could very easily feed the cancer that is killing you and make it even stronger.Either that, or, you know, just give you some blood to raise you to a good healthy hemoglobin level and be done with all that crap.
Whatever.
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How were you 'outed' ??
by stuckinarut2 inmany of us here have been "outed" as ones who no longer believe that this is "the truth".. many didn't have the chance to do it in our own way, and in our own time, but rather someone "found out about our apostasy" and "reported" it to the spiritual police (elders).
would you like to share your stories?.
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backformore
Hehehe, funny story about this one. Back when I was a teenager and still in I was friends with this one girl who got DF'd. I was a horrible JW so I still stayed friends with her and would talk to her outside the hall and even hang out sometimes. Fast forward a few years when I've gone apostate and am in my 20's. I run into my old friend and she's married now. She introduces me to her husband and he's nice enough. While we're talking I start going on about how I'm out now, proud apostate, and on and on. She tells me her husband was once at Bethel and I congratulate him on how far he's fallen since that time. Very nice and pleasant conversation. A couple weeks later I was talking to my buddy who was out also and I mentioned running into our old friend and her husband. As I'm telling him about our conversation he starts getting this horrified look on his face that keeps getting worse and worse as I go on. Once I finally shut up the only thing he can get out is "You know she went back, right?" Turns out she got reinstated and married this super elder at another congregation. I'm going on about being apostate now and neither one of them has the nerve to say they're still in. At this point I do the only thing I can think of, start laughing. Seriously, I'm going to lose family and friends over this but at least I won't have to deal with all the hiding and stuff like that. I'm now totally free to just be me.
Remember, the only power these people have over you is what you give them.
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Convention “Highlights” - bwhahaha!
by Muddy Waters intaking a walk down memory lane at those looooonnnnngg, tedious conventions... .
(boy, they weren’t kidding when they spoke about being long-suffering and having endurance!).
but what were some of your convention highlights, or lowlights, from back in the day?.
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backformore
Being a 16 year old kid in the mid 90's and running the sound system because the guy that had the job of storing and bringing the system forgot to get the instructions on how to hook everything up and nobody else could figure out how to do it. I remember at one point the CO was standing around us and asking if I was baptized or not. I told him no and that I could leave if he wants me to. I got a very frightened "NO!! But you really are supposed to be if you're working in the sound department." I just rolled my eyes, said OK, and went back to adjusting mic volumes.