does anyone think that the rule which states that "associating with a disassociated person is a disfellowshipping offense" was created to disfellowship ray franz?
the reason i ask this is because i noticed that the watchtower published many articles with that rule at the same time period franz left bethal, but published nothing about it before around 1981.
Correct if I'm wrong, but I'm quite sure Ray Franz himself indicated in Crisis of Conscience that he certainly felt it was his situation that prompted the WBTS/GB to change their stance regarding the treatment of disassociated people - ie. that they should be shunned in the same way as disfellowshipped ones.
xandra360
i watched this on bravo last night.
so what's yer favorite movie for spookiness on halloween?.
creature: "i have love in me the likes of which you can scarcely imagine.
I saw the Exorcist for the first time this evening, it was screened on Channel 4. It was disturbing in parts, but I don't think I'll be losing any sleep over it.
xandra360
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of leaving the organisation?.
did it help?
Was your therapy as a direct result of leaving/wanting to leave, or was this a by product of the therapy?
Well I'd had therapy before and psychologists had suggested to me numerours times that my religion wasn't helping my situation. But as a faithful JW I would of course ignore this. Once I decided I wanted to leave the troof I was more willing to explore my feelings about it in therapy because the whole experience of separating yourself from that was pretty traumatic for me. I was so glad I had the support of health professionals at the time and would recommend it wholeheartedly to anyone.
xandra360
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of leaving the organisation?.
did it help?
I have and it helped enormously.
xandra360
i have the best of teddy pendergrass in mine.
i was just in the mood for some sweet mellow music.. what about you?.
dimples
Too embarrassed to say whats in my CD player at the mo ...
xandra360
as a former jehovahs witness, one who was raised in the faith, and eventually became a pioneer and ms; i left 20 years ago and at this juncture in my do not feel the need to join any other religion.
it is not that i still believe any of the jw teachings, i just do not believe any organized religion, not christianity, judaism or muslim.
i feel that i am a deeply spiritual person; agnostic, but because of my "jw adventure" , i not longer feel the need to worship.. i am curious to know how the rest of you feel after leaving that faith...is there still a need to worship, or has that feeling also passed with you?.
I still feel the need to worship and miss having a spiritual routine, eventhough its been nearly 4 years since I did the fade. I do go to a local Buddhist centre to meditate, but don't feel I could really get into another organised religion. The whole idea of it just brings back too many bad connotations for me. I don't think I'll ever lose that feeling of wanting to do something spiritual but I just can't see myself committing wholesale to another religion again.
xandra360
wondering if anyone is interested in doing secret santa again this year.. last year was soooooo much fun.
i am quite happy to put up my hand and organise it... .
christy did such a fantastic job last year i will have a lot to live up to.. let me know what you all think.. merry christmas.
We don't have Secret Santa in the UK - can someone please explain?
Ta,
xandra360
hello this is my first post and i wanted to introduce myself so here goes.. my name is lainey, and i have not been to the meetings for about 4 years now.. i am 28 and work as a doctor in a big city university hospital as a sho.. also for my sins, i am cassies little sis, and i am staying with him for a little while, as i am signed off sick for the next month with a stress related disorder.. after the death of my older bro and my dad within the past few months, i started suffering from terrible nightmares, most of them connected in some way to my witness upbringing.. me and cassie have talked for some length and he suggested that i spend some time having a look on this site and meeting others who have had similar issues to face in life.. i hope you are all are better listeners than cassie, who tends to fall asleep when i am in the middle of talking to him.
(brothers!!!
) btw he hates being called cassie lol.. anyway i am not a big talker, so i probably wont post a lot, however i am going to scout around for a while.. thanks .
Hi Lainey (Elaine?)
Hope you enjoy your stay here.
xandra360 (aka Julia)
i'm officially single.
i don't know how to feel exactly.
thank you to everyone who has been so sweet and kind and supportive of me, you have no idea how much it's meant to me.
Oh dear Tink, I'm sorry to hear that. I'm no expert in relationships, but I blame Caspian as well ...
Big hugs from the Wicked Girls posse
Love,
xandra
after about 8 months of "silence", i took the initiative to visit my daughter, who is an active jw - i wanted to see her, as i bought some good nutritional supplements which i wanted to give to her for her children.
she was kind but somewhat distant - we embraced each other and then talked a little bit about non-essential things.
she showed me my granddaughter, who is about 10 months old - very cute and so pretty.
I think Crisis of Conscience mentions this issue, it was changed in the mid-90s. I remember it because I got burned by this after leaving school to do a variety McJobs in order to pioneer ... Once the light got brighter a lot of elders in my cong who had previously been dead set against University suddenly started saying that the Society had never been against higher education - now where have I heard that before?
xandra360
