Posts by purrpurr

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What is CT Russell's motive?

by sinboi in

what is russell's motive when he started examining the bible with a group of bible students?

did he intend to form a cult and to mislead others?

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purrpurr

Where are you guys getting this insider info from? I'm not disagreeing with it btw, just I'd like to read more about it that isn't jw revisionist history

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Life during the 1,000 reign???

by Joliette in

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friends

me and my brother recently got into a discussion about the 1,000 reign.

i told him that even after armageddon, you know that you still have to work for your salvation??

he says yes, that he is prepared to work for jehovah (wth), and that it will be a wonderful time.

Something I always used to wonder is that it says that after the 1000 years the devil will be let out for a short time... and it used to occur to me that this time in history is meant to be a brief time "knowing he has a brief time"

So considering that this 2k years is considered a brief time just how long would the short time after the 1000 years actually be?

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The right to record your judicial committee meeting

by UnshackleTheChains in

ok.. we have often heard secret recordings online of jc hearings.

but, what i would like to know is if individuals are entitled to the right of officially recording their judicial hearings?.

supposing i was to attend a judicial committee and i explained up front that i would like to record the proceedings and then place a dictaphone on the table.

purrpurr

As I understand it, you can record whatever you want, its only if you plan to use that in a court of law that you need to get permission first. Even then the judge's these days will sometimes allow it if it's vital evidence

Think about all the cctv etc that records you... they don't ask your permission do they?

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"I am so excited to hear the Sunday morning talks at this summer's convention"

by Sour Grapes in

i have a super uber jdub relative who lives several states away.

he is always trying to encourage me since he knows that i stopped going to the kingdom haul.

anyhow, he sends me a copy of the program for the summer regional convention and pointed out the sunday morning talks.

purrpurr

Give him a sentence or two on what each major talk is about, that way he can't ignore it. It will really freak him out when he gets to the assembly and realises far from it being apostate lies you were telling the truth!

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What is the strangest book or craziest book the JWs have ever printed?

by blownaway in

what do you think the crazies or strangest book they ever printed is?.

purrpurr

Oh yes! My book of bible stories! That awful traumatic picture of Jesus on the stake, I hated that scary picture as a kid

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What is the strangest book or craziest book the JWs have ever printed?

by blownaway in

what do you think the crazies or strangest book they ever printed is?.

purrpurr

Ah yes the infamous youth book, I remember studying that awful chapter about sex in the book study, it actually went into a step by step account of how sex happens in awful detail. Then the paragraph question was asked and no one I repeat no one put their hand up to answer at all!

Strangely enough I don't recall the step by step account mentioning anything about clitoral stimulation? Or about womens pleasure or orgasm? It was all from the point of view of men

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The secret fears - did you have any?

by days of future passed in

i think many jw's have secret fears in common, but don't often voice them.

it's too bad because then they might wonder why?.

for instance, one day at work while i was talking to one of the witness ladies, (on her belief of some bible proof of the last days) she suddenly lowered her voice.

purrpurr

Yes when I was a kid I used to be so scared that when Armageddon came I'd be tortured and my Faith would give out and I'd end up sinning against god.

Sh@t! Kids shouldn't have to worry about stuff like that! Remember that article "oh Jehovah keep my young daughter faithful! " ? It was the experience of a young girl during ww2 who went through awful abuses but still kept faithful. I thought I'd have to endure worse than that!

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After watching "the last man on earth" I've been thinking about the paradise

by purrpurr in

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friends

if you haven't seen will forte's "the last man on earth" on amazon prime, do as its really funny.

the setting of the story is that 2 years prior a virus has killed all humans except one.... amongst the high jinks are the struggles he has with things like; getting water from the water system when the areas water supply is no longer being maintained, ditto sewerage, not having ready access to fresh foods that require industry like butter and cheese, not having access to medical help, being unable to communicate with anyone outside of shouting distance, having no electricity / electronic appliances.. it's got me thinking, all the wt's illustrations show the time when armageddon is over as being really joyful and there being plenty for everyone.

but in fact that would just not be the case, especially since most jw's have no survival skills or expert knowledge of any kind.. jws just don't think about this, how are all those couples who are waiting untill the new system to have kids, going to have kids in a survival setting?

purrpurr

If you haven't seen will forte's "the last man on earth" on Amazon prime, do as its really funny. The setting of the story is that 2 years prior a virus has killed all humans except one...

Amongst the high jinks are the struggles he has with things like; getting water from the water system when the areas water supply is no longer being maintained, ditto sewerage, not having ready access to fresh foods that require industry like butter and cheese, not having access to medical help, being unable to communicate with anyone outside of shouting distance, having no electricity / electronic appliances.

It's got me thinking, all the wt's illustrations show the time when Armageddon is over as being really joyful and there being plenty for everyone. But in fact that would just not be the case, especially since most jw's have no survival skills or expert knowledge of any kind.

Jws just don't think about this, how are all those couples who are waiting untill the new system to have kids, going to have kids in a survival setting? No drs no stand by if anything goes wrong etc.

And those jws who are waiting until the new system to get married... well there's a lack of decent mates available now, what about when half of them are dead cos their heart condition wasn't quite right? You might end up having to settle for brother pervy weirdo!

As always I make the disclaimer that I'm an atheist, but its fun to debate these beliefs, helps to deprogramme ourselves.

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You MUST Sign the Data Collection Form "...obey...whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.¨"

by gone for good in

the many and complex issues surrounding the collection of person data and new laws aiming to protect individuals control of their own privacy, seem to have hatched about the same time as the governing body expressed their hope that it´s own 8 million would obey their order to "sign this form" effectively transfering total authority over privacy and data issues over to the borg.. what are your thoughts on this coincidence?.

zuckerberg lost billion$$ when people realized that he had prostituted their personal data and now wt wants the same signed access that he had to info that is $$$.... wt already owns all the real estate and now wants to own all the data.... it´s a current and global issue - please share your thought with the rest of us here.. .

purrpurr

Does their small print give them the rights to sell the data on? They could earn alot that way

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God seems to have alot of failures?

by purrpurr in

for an all powerful, all knowing god it seems most of his plans go awry, so why assume that armageddon/ new system will work?

look at the track record.

... adam and eve... went wrong.

purrpurr

For an all powerful, all knowing god it seems most of his plans go awry, so why assume that Armageddon/ New system will work? Look at the track record. ..

Adam and eve... went wrong

Noah ark (as per another post they still went wicked afterwards

The Jews in the so called land of milk and honey were constantly being invaded or worshipping other gods

His prophets seemed to be doomed as soon as God came calling

King David. .. pretty screwed up

King Solomon aka wisest man ever.... went wrong

Jesus when a child had kings after his blood

And after Jesus died no one even thought to write down anything about him for a couple of centuries?

In the present day the so called chosen ones, the gb ,have been so unclear and uncertain about what God wants that they've flip flopped on doctrine multiple times and now have a system in place that has created a peados paradise!

... it's been one messy failure after another! So why would the future plans of God be any different in there evidential outcome?

(Ps for the record I'm atheist, but its fun to debate subjects like this from the point of view of a believer )