Posts by noahwayforreals

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When Was Jerusalem Destroyed By The Babylonians?

by Smart in

can someone explain in easy to understand language what this argument is all about.

i am not that clever.

i am hoping to talk to the elders about this as well as whoever is willing to talk about it on here.

Watch Tower Society holds GOVERNMENT SHARES!

by LennaB in

securities and exchange commission: http://www.sec.gov/archives.... name: the watchtower society .

class a shares owned: 5,073,200. percentage of class a shares owned: 44.94%.

rand cam corporation - developers of cold turbine engine project, funded by the u.s. military (navy).. what happen to 1.having no polictical/government affiliantion?

noahwayforreals

To me this is a very clear cut issue with an obvious answer...

As a child, I remember owning some He-Man toys (loved Skeletor, and all the bad guys), but once my mom found out what they were and all their little evil details, she made me throw them away. My best friend would have loved to have had them, and I asked her if I could just give them to him (cause then I could at least play with them when I was at his house), but she said very emphatically - NO! Why would we give a toy that was created by Satan to a person we consider to be a friend? I understood her point and we threw them out. (Yes, I'm afraid that horrible cartoon with the boy and the wizard toy is somehow based on an instance in my life... WT actual F!!!).

Fast forward a few years, and I'm in high school. I earned a performing arts scholarship to attend college. My mom and dad give me the old song and dance about how the end is coming and that I need to focus on Jehovah and blah blah blah. My dad also says "We want to follow the direction of the society, and never involve ourselves in things that could either cause ourselves, or more importantly others in the congregation to stumble. I fought them on this one a bit, but eventually conceded because I'm a good JW.

Fast forward a few years, and I'm working (check that, struggling to stay employed). I had taken a job working for a very small company in their warehouse (not what I usually did), so that I could spend more time at home, and make meetings and service regularly. I get a call one day from a headhunter that ran across my resume on Monster, and he has a great job for me working for a company that developed something (I honestly cannot remember anymore, but it was something like a chip for their satellite phones), for the military. I would not be personally involved with making those items, but rather managing their HR department. Because of the military ties, I start having guilty feelings about it and go to a brother I respected and also talked to my dad about it. Both give the same answer... We cannot have any ties to the military or government in our daily activities, nor should we be profiting from it either. I was read a scripture about touching the unclean thing and a few others with a similar point, I was shown articles and JW books that touched on the subject, and the point was well made... that being that I simply CANNOT take the job if I don't want to risk losing favor with Jehovah!

Why do I share these things??? Well, if I couldn't own a Skeletor doll, attend college because of the "entertainment" factor, or even take a job to support my family because of the military ties, then how is this in any way acceptable? We are told over and over how horrible the government is, how bad being a part of the military is, and how we MUST remain separate if we want to retain Jehovah's favor. If we can't even pass a harmless doll from one child to the next, then how is a gift with military ties given to them from a member/s by which they are also profiting heavily from (remember I couldn't even support my family doing the same thing), not the height of hypocrisy?!!!? This guy says it really doesn't matter. I say that if I can't touch it, than neither can you! Anything less is a double standard and is completely unacceptable.

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Reddit Has Done a Great Job Lately at Exposing the Watchtower to Millions

by Emery in

1.5 months ago there was a perfectly timed reddit topic about jw false prophecies that made it on to the front page of reddit.

this certainly didn't bold so well fortheir historic campaign.

the front-page of reddit had over 135 million unique visitors last month.

noahwayforreals

I'm on Reddit all the time, including the exjw page but I have not seen this video of the 2 BORG dudes... Have a link you could share?

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Facebook Rumor is Bullshit, Here's Why! Coming From "MyApostateTrial".

by BucketShopBill in

the watchtower told the elders cosmo rose and dennis black and eric macgufus whoall appeared on those videos, they were going to use the "full weight of the watchtower to remove those videos and take eric botorff to court", ask eric botorff if he has been to court to have his videos removed.

same thing with chriswilting and brother wally belt(a causality of meeting with eric, she said wally was deleted for having coffee with eric), each elder and former elder told my sister "we are working on getting those apostate videos down asap!

" it's been years since those videos, do you think the watchtower has any clout, if they did those videos would be removed, it's all bunk!

noahwayforreals

Could someone she'd some light on what videos these are, I'm in the dark on this one.

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Theocratic Ministry school exercises

by crazyhorse in

how many of you exjws or active jws did or do the e ercises at the end of each quality in the school guidebook when given an assignment?

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i have never done any and the overseer never seems to bother to ask.

noahwayforreals

I did it once cause I didn't understand what the hell they meant by being exportanious (or some stupid word), other than that I was an excellent public speaker and didn't need the book or it's exercises. I had one elder ask me if I did the exercise and lucky me it was the same night - didn't have to lie for once!!

On a side note, I had ONE elder in 40 years in sign my book... WTF!!!

Oh, and hi... I'm new here.