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before everyone gets all huffy about another war thread, i tried to reply in the original thread, but it buggered up.
simon, if you want to move it there and get rid of this thread, please do.
Cut and paste sucks on this board. To continue my truncated thought...
On the flip side, there are those who will protest any military action by anyone anywhere. That means they were against the military action of Iraq against Kuwait that touched off Gulf One as well as the military action of the U.S. against Iraq to reverse the situation. Not terribly practical but it didn't mean that they were for Iraq's invasion just because they were against the U.S. liberation. They were just against war.
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before everyone gets all huffy about another war thread, i tried to reply in the original thread, but it buggered up.
simon, if you want to move it there and get rid of this thread, please do.
It is true that the only way Saddam will give up power is if we wrest it from his cold, dead hand and that further attempts at political solutions to the issue will serve to prolong his reign. But I don’t believe that by opposing the war, one is necessarily supporting Saddam. When voicing an opinion, the speaker should not automatically be considered to be a backer of all possible affects resultant of the implementation of that opinion. For example:
For reasons I will not get into now in the interests of staying on topic, I support the military action now going on. I fully realize that during this action, some of our boys and girls over there will be captured and tortured. Anyone who tells me that I am in any way supportive, passive or otherwise, of having American troops tortured is asking for a fat lip and a black eye.
On the flip side, there are those out there who will protest any action by any military force anywhere. That means that they were against the military action of
When someone champions a cause or supports a course of action, the effects of that course of action should be up for scrutiny and discussion, but I think it unfair to attribute the support of that person to any negative repercussions.
i was going to call the thread wwiii, but that's a bit sensational, isn't it?
the escalation pattern is in these headlines on a newsite i read sometimes.. china readies for future us war .
15,000 indonesian 'holy warriors' to fight for iraq .
SloBoy,
The Watchtower of course! But seriously if you're looking for truth in the news, unfettered by profit incentives or political influence, good luck.
the basis of hitler's blitzkrieg, march 14, 2003 .
reviewer: a reader from langley, va, united states shock and awe were the foundational concepts put forth by hitler's military leaders as a new and lethal way of rapidly overwhelming opponents.
setting aside considerations of the violence visited on civilians and non-combatants or the damage done to infrastructure, hitler suggested that inducing "shock and awe" through his "lightning war" system would lead to rapid military victories.
I heard on NPR that the guy who came up with "Shock and Awe" drew his inspiration from Sun Tsu's "Art of War." But does it matter? If Mengele would have found the cure for cancer, would we not use it? The quicker this war is over, the sooner the poor people of Iraq can begin a new and bright future. If shock and awe is what it takes, so be it.
i was going to call the thread wwiii, but that's a bit sensational, isn't it?
the escalation pattern is in these headlines on a newsite i read sometimes.. china readies for future us war .
15,000 indonesian 'holy warriors' to fight for iraq .
Media sensationalism plain and simple. Headlines like that are meant to sell copy, not to convey truth.
just wanna take a little diversion from the current events happening.
i'm watching my favorite old movie of all time right now.
"on the waterfront" with marlon brando.
12 Angry Men. Excellent drama, riviting dialogue, no reliance whatsoever on set or effects. Just good writing.
these stars telling us how we should think and feel about the iraqi situation have really gotten my goat.
are they so out of touch with reality that they think, because they are rich and have pretty faces, they can speak with any authority whatsoever about world politics and national security?
the following link is a bit long but worth the read.
Crownboy has utterly missed the point. By the way, Cindy Osborne is a celebrity and in support of the war and apparently I (someone I'm sure you would call a right winger though you know nothing about me) care enough about what she's saying to post it here.
JWS, thankfully, has the intelligence to see the point clearly. Though we may dissagree on many points I think we both see that calling the highly educated people in the Bush administration "stupid," especially when you have no education beyond high school and your only credintials are a big bankroll and some acting experience, is, well, stupid.
these stars telling us how we should think and feel about the iraqi situation have really gotten my goat.
are they so out of touch with reality that they think, because they are rich and have pretty faces, they can speak with any authority whatsoever about world politics and national security?
the following link is a bit long but worth the read.
These stars telling us how we should think and feel about the Iraqi situation have really gotten my goat. Are they so out of touch with reality that they think, because they are rich and have pretty faces, they can speak with any authority whatsoever about world politics and national security? The following link is a bit long but worth the read. Lemme know what you think.
please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple choice test.
(the events are actual cuts from past history.
they actually happened!
Abaddon, you have totally missed the point, or chosen to ignore in a vain attempt to be witty, it with your first comment about me being politicaly correct and gotten completely off topic with your last comment. I didn't bother to read whatever was in between.
Nightwarrior, I fully understand where the PC movement originated and I agree with the original principals. I'm not saying that it's okay to walk down the street and call people spicks and wops. But when people's first ammendment rights to free speach are being curtailed because two or three oversensitive bone heads somewhere with way too much time on their hands might be offended, it's gone too far.
Damn cut and paste...
Am I mistaken or is the process of making the original Damascus steel still a mystery? If I remember right, I once heard on a documentary that only three cranes in the US today could lift the heaviest stone found in the pyramids. Makes me wonder if one day, thousands of years hence, humans are going to have to re-discover how to make the computer or the internal combustion engine. We today have the tendency to view technology as one continual, linear progression. Obviously it is not and we are simply in a phase, a phase where we are not privy to some of the older knowledge and where some current knowledge is likely to be lost to the future.
