I couldn’t help but notice the juxtaposition of the day text for Jan 14 and 15. The first is about following the disfellowshipping decree, the second is about showing compassion. I ask you, “If an active JW were to miss following both of these texts, which one would they most likely be counseled on?”
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Comparison of Jan 14 and 15 days texts
by helpmeout ini couldn’t help but notice the juxtaposition of the day text for jan 14 and 15. the first is about following the disfellowshipping decree, the second is about showing compassion.
i ask you, “if an active jw were to miss following both of these texts, which one would they most likely be counseled on?”.
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THEY act like the ones who are hurt??!!
by stuckinarut2 init really amazes me when jws act like we are hurting them!.
many of us have found that if we stop associating with them for valid reasons, they act all upset and hurt that we would be "so cruel as to limit our association or cut them off".
i know of friends here on the forum who have been told by parents that they "will shun them if they leave jehovah" , and yet when the shoe is on the other foot and our awake friends shun them first, the parents cry and bemoan the situation and say how "cruel it is to deprive them of their company".
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helpmeout
It’s funny how people get offended when you treat them the way they treat you. I also have decided to be proactive and remove myself from the lives of fake people.
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"Thanks for the thought" - how the religion robs people of normal humanity
by stuckinarut2 inso as you all know, my wife and i are not officially df or da.. a small event happened this week that i have to share!.
a family that we were really close to (dinners and catch ups several times a month , go out socially often, play sport together, helped them through tough times, like uncle and aunty to their kids, etc).
the wife's father died.
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helpmeout
I agree with everything said in this thread. My wife and I are treated with disdain by people that we have been nothing but kind to for 30+ years. All because elders labeled us for not allowing them to interfere in our family. However, our family is at peace and happier than we have ever been. We have come to appreciate the value of unconditional love and friendship. -
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Lost my virginity a week before first public talk
by ElderEtta ini had just turned 18 and was a young mover in our congregation, vac pioneering on summer vacation, instruction talks in the km school and at local circuit assembly, plans to serve where the need was greater in a different state.
i was also engaged to be married in the following spring to a girl in that distant state.. this was november and i had just registered for the draft having turned 18. my parents said i could make my move after registering.
i saw the stack of handbill invitations to my very first public talk although i can't remember its title.
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I would try not to masterbate the week before giving a public talk. Lol.
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W5 Investigation
by Christian Gutierrez inhey guys!
i just want you guys to know that today is a really great day.
there are so many jehovah's witnesses that saw this documentary and were disgusted by watchtowers policy.
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helpmeout
Thank you very much for your efforts. My wife and I live in Canada. We have not suffered anything as serious as sexual abuse, but we have been treated very unjustly in the congregation because of our refusal to allow self righteous elders to interfere in our family. As a result, we have been marked and treated as outcasts without a voice. This program resonated with us. My wife watched it and has finally woken up. Thank you again!
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Male Martyrs can expect to find 72 virgin maidens, what can female suicide bombers expect???
by James Mixon infemale martyrs will be chief of 72 virgins the fairest of the women, and plus she will made beautiful , happy and without jealousy .."whoopee" their paradise is worst than jw's paradise..
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Female suicide bombers get the rest of the day off
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New light!.....DFed without being DFed
by Tight Pants Twinkle Toes init now appears that the wt can df you just by marking you.
this happened to my me and my wife a few week ago.
a marking talk was given at the mid-week meeting in which no names were mentioned yet a detailed description of the "offending bastards" was delivered so that there as no doubt who this "pond scum" might be.
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helpmeout
This happened to my wife and me last year. We refused to allow the elders to bully us into letting them intrude in our family life. They continued to bully us using talks and comments to belittle us. Our response was to completely ignore them while maintaining pleasant relationships with all others in the congregation. We never openly criticized them. We simply refused to talk to them. Rather than leave us alone, like normal people would do, they went out of their way to put us in positions where it was obvious that we were ignoring them. Then they gave a marking talk and compared us to Korah. My wife was devastated. She has since realized what a shallow, judgemental group of people they are. She has also come to realize that this organization gives no voice to victims. We have not attended for over a year now. We are enjoying our time together more than we ever have. Our family is closer then ever.
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Anyone interested in phone chat?
by helpmeout ini am a 50 something guy.
i'm a born in.
baptized at 15. ms at 20. elder at 28. pioneered.
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I am a 50 something guy. I'm a born in. Baptized at 15. MS at 20. Elder at 28. Pioneered. Married. You know the drill. Woke up about 3 years ago. My daughter just started college. My wife is slowly waking up. I'm looking for a friend or two for phone conversation. -
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Be loyal when a relative is disfellowshipped
by UnshackleTheChains inwell.....they showed that shunning video again.
you know...the one where goldilocks gets disfellowshipped- and the parents look across the hall at her with disdain.....yeah that video.. i was interested to see what kind of answers would be given during the discussion after the video and some of the reactions.
everyone sat there gormlessly staring at the video.
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This is the one singular teaching that convinces me that this is not a God directed organization. I'm ashamed to say that I share in community responsibility for shunning family members. I have recently reached out to my sister and was met with graciousness that puts JWs to shame. Trying to associate this God-dishonouring practice with loyalty to God is evil. I cannot for one minute think that our Creator would be pleased with a father or mother who ignored the phone call of a child. It is emotional abuse in its most egregious form. Shame on the GB for producing this hateful, destructive propaganda and for trying to pass it off as "spiritual food."
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How many "leave the truth" because of the behaviour of harsh elders?
by stuckinarut2 injust wondering how many are assisted to wake up after experiencing harsh treatment from "the loving shepherds of the congregation"?.
perhaps some were starting to wake up, and such behaviour or treatment gave them the push to leave?.
as jesus supposedly said "come to me all who are toiling and loaded down, and i will refresh you.
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I had my doubts about a number of things. However, it was the bullying of the elders that lead me to investigate my doubts. I gave myself permission to research and question, to begin to use critical thinking. As a result, I was able to see the controlling nature of the Organization Once you see, you can't "unsee". My wife is slowly beginning to see as well. The unkindness and outright hateful lies of some very controlling and self righteous elders have played a large part in helping to wake her up.