Our convention was the first to view this, I remeber thinking jow wonderful :/ Gosh, so sad this is happening to peoples children. "Our hope is in theresurrection friends." Tragic.
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That 'Resurrection' video is cultish and scary but it couldn't actually harm anyone. Could it?
by nicolaou inmy wife and i spent last evening, as so many did, concerned for the king family and their little boy ashya (bbc report).
it's clear that blood is not an issue in their decision to take ashya away from hospital and the vital medical attention that he needs.
the watchtower office of public information also denied "that their decision is in any way motivated by any religious convictions".. hmmm.
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I'm meeting with my congregation Elders Today HELP PLEASE
by LennaB inmeeting with my congregation elders today.. going to tell them about the things i discovered about c.t russell.
(astrology, racism, ect.
) i don't know how to present this information or what to say.
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Great replies. I'm learning so much, I never knew about half this stuff. I guess this is another reason the governing body discourages higher education..
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I'm meeting with my congregation Elders Today HELP PLEASE
by LennaB inmeeting with my congregation elders today.. going to tell them about the things i discovered about c.t russell.
(astrology, racism, ect.
) i don't know how to present this information or what to say.
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Thenks everyone once again for the love. I went to my Disfellowshipped cousin who I thought would have studied independently.. But I was a fool to do that... My husband is relieved to say the least. He always thought that everyone seemed fake anyway. I've burned almost all my bridges with my "worldly" friends so their is a lot of rebuilding to do. What about all the answered prayers and experiences in the yearbook/watchtower? Are they all fake?
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I'm meeting with my congregation Elders Today HELP PLEASE
by LennaB inmeeting with my congregation elders today.. going to tell them about the things i discovered about c.t russell.
(astrology, racism, ect.
) i don't know how to present this information or what to say.
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My husband is not a JW, but I was so Zealous I made the both of us look like fools. I'm saying my life is ruined because AS OF NOW I have no hope for the future, angry at the way I was treted by some of the people in my cong (even though their were some great people), questioning id I can even trust the bible? If that doesn't ruin your life then what does? I'm just looking for encouragment from people who know about this place. As for the elder, he said that doubt isn't uncommon and not bad, but now he has something to do research on to strenghten his faith or something like that. He is really a down to earth guy. Only been an Elder fo two to three years and wasn't raised in the truth. His wife brought him in. To the people that think I'm lying, what would be the point????? Thanks for the support everyone. I really appreciate it. This is an open question to the people who were raised/spent five plus years in the truth, what happened? what were your experinces when you first found out?
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I'm meeting with my congregation Elders Today HELP PLEASE
by LennaB inmeeting with my congregation elders today.. going to tell them about the things i discovered about c.t russell.
(astrology, racism, ect.
) i don't know how to present this information or what to say.
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Please tell me what the bright side is.. I'm looking for sensible guidance at this point since people here know what I've been through.. As of right now I'm questioning if god even exsist. I now realized that I got married for the wrong reasons.. I'm lost and I don't know how I'm going to break to my friends that I'm not going anymore.. They think I'm headed for eternal Destruction. Please rember this is fairly new to me and I was taught this from a young age... I just turned twenty this year only a few months ago..
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I'm meeting with my congregation Elders Today HELP PLEASE
by LennaB inmeeting with my congregation elders today.. going to tell them about the things i discovered about c.t russell.
(astrology, racism, ect.
) i don't know how to present this information or what to say.
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What doesn't seem to add up?
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I'm meeting with my congregation Elders Today HELP PLEASE
by LennaB inmeeting with my congregation elders today.. going to tell them about the things i discovered about c.t russell.
(astrology, racism, ect.
) i don't know how to present this information or what to say.
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My life is ruined. oh my god I want to cry. I think I'm in denial..
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I'm meeting with my congregation Elders Today HELP PLEASE
by LennaB inmeeting with my congregation elders today.. going to tell them about the things i discovered about c.t russell.
(astrology, racism, ect.
) i don't know how to present this information or what to say.
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OK. I'm not very good at writing so bear with me please. A little background info first. I grew up around the truth but not in it. I started studying the bible with JW's seriously Nov/13 and had been making pretty rapid progress (With the hopes of baptism of course). Even getting married to my bf of three years so I could live in accordance with Jehovahs righteous standards. I had been getting pretty close with my bible teacher who is a very overbearing and pushy pioner sister. She had me over her house, around her family, bought me dresses, picked me up for service, ect. I started attending the meetings immediately. After a while I became completely let down by the stark contrast between what is published about the meetings and what actually goes on. Studying EVERYDAY, I'm not studying long enough, good enough. I'm in constant fear that I am displeasing God and it causing me serious anxieties. I Don't want to bring "reproach on Jehovahs name" SO I keep up with the smiles for everyone and my newly wed husband. At this point I feel like a total fraud... Shouldn't the happiness come naturally? Shouldn't I be one of the happiest people on earth with out forcing it and being fake? I EVER SO SLOWLY start missing meetings and going out into service less. (This has made a huge deal since I started out with 30hrs every month and commenting more than twice at each meeting.) I think everyone here knows the kind of up roar that causees once you start skipping..SO I had been researching for about a week before I decide that Jehovah couldn't possibly be leading an organization that had Occult roots. (Love what Jehovah Loves and hate what he hates right?) So I gathered four main points that I wanted to address with the elders (In hopes that maybe they could disprove me and that my findings WERE Demonic Propaganda).
1. Pyramidology/Occult/Astrology/Masonry
2. Assuming the role of 'Prophet' in Jehovas name
3. C.T Russell (In general)
4. False Predictions
I was told by my Bible teacher that I needed to have a sheperding call, so I took advantage of that to ask them their. I sat down with the elders in the office or whatever with all of my refercnces on my laptop ready to go and show them everything. Long story short, Elder A closed his bible as soon as he realized the nature of my questions. He tried to say that the masonry symbol was a "halo" and "cross", Elder A proceeded to ask me, "well, is their a cross on the cover of the watch tower now?" and I pointed out to him that it was not a halo but a crown and the knights templar still useses THAT SAME SYMBOL today. They either weren't aware or didn't acknoledge the other endtime predictions excluding 1914 and 1975. I asked was it in any way possible that C.T Russell was a false prophet. Didn't answer that. I brought up astrology in Russies old Zion WatchTower and they attributed this to good ol' New light. Elder B actually said that some of the points I brought up placed doubts in his heart. Basically all they said the entire three hours, (yes! You read that right. THREE HOURS.)was either the organization didn't fully understand everything at the time and "The light is getting brighter" or they completely marched around my questions with the things society has taught them, sometimes going off topic.. The bible was read from five times maximum. Like I said before, that fear has not left me and at this point I'm unsure of a lot of things and don't know what to do. Parts of me still believs that this could be th truth, the elders were very persuasive.. I keep thinking about that angel of light scripture.. ugh, I'm so lost right now :c If you guys want anymore details feel free to ask, thanks for the advice.
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I'm meeting with my congregation Elders Today HELP PLEASE
by LennaB inmeeting with my congregation elders today.. going to tell them about the things i discovered about c.t russell.
(astrology, racism, ect.
) i don't know how to present this information or what to say.
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I will post later on how it went. Very nervous. I just feel so bad because the congregation I was in was generally well rounded. (With the exception of the flirting congregation overseer, and his passive wife. One of the elders wives actually hit me in the back once because her husband was always coming up to me after meetings. Which is one of the elders I'm meeting with.) These people really grow on you, and it sucks that I will be branded an apostate and loose my friends. This is so horrible, I genuinely believed this was the truth until I did my own independent reserch. I've been so conditioned part of me is still worried if i'm being "influenced by the demons".
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I'm meeting with my congregation Elders Today HELP PLEASE
by LennaB inmeeting with my congregation elders today.. going to tell them about the things i discovered about c.t russell.
(astrology, racism, ect.
) i don't know how to present this information or what to say.
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Meeting with my congregation Elders today.. Going to tell them about the things I discovered about C.T Russell. (Astrology, racism, ect.) I don't know how to present this information or what to say. One was raised in the "truth" and the other a member for 20+ years. Any suggestions? I'm going at 6:30 and it is now 5:03.