And I’m a mindreading eight-armed bisexual alien from mars. Happy April Fools’ Day to you too, man.
Posts by SAHS
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4OMG! This is incredible!!
by ILoveTTATT2 inreuters - april 1st, 2015, new york.
cults merge in a $10 billion transaction.
the cults known as "jehovah's witnesses" and "scientology" announced on wednesday their merger.. observers on both religions are shocked.. "i can't believe that they would do that!
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Ex-Christians being angry
by Jonathan Drake ini know i'm angry.
i was curious if others are too.
i feel completely justified in my anger as well.
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SAHS
I found that after proving undoubtedly to myself that the WT “religion” in particular is nothing more than pure charlatanry, I then began a methodical yet purposeful scientific/logical process of realization that ALL this world’s religions are based solely on pure falsehoods. That’s right, ALL of them!
Biologically sentient beings started believing in an ancient desert warrior god (Yaweh), and then this philosophical hippie Jesus guy apparently came on the scene and introduced a new religious movement, which, with the help of the Roman Emporer Constantine, became their new “state religion.”
Now, just as there are Greek philosophy, Roman philosophy, Egyptian philosophy, Babylonian philosophy, Hindu Indian philosophy, native Indian philosophy, etc., there is also what I call “Christian philosophy” – i.e., Jusus.
So, if one were to challenge all the other “philosophies,” then they should also challenge the prevailing “Christian philosophy” – i.e., God’s Son, Jesus Christ, supposedly coming to earth by being born of a virgin jewess, performing gratuitous “miracles,” being resurrected, and then physically ascending to heaven. No matter how you look at it, all religion in general is really nothing more than a poignant projection of the defects of character common to all us mammal primates.
If you ask me, I say that ALL religion is just infantile and self-serving horseshit!
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Religious Freedom Laws...
by wisdomfrombelow ini wonder if the religious freedom laws would allow active jws to discriminate against former jws?
could a business owner decide not to serve or sell to someone they consider "apostate" according to their beliefs?
if so it could take shunning to a whole new level in some states.
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Church and state are now separate entities – and for a reason. The government (especially in the USA, as well as here in Canada) is rightly advocating basic human and civil rights across the board, enforceable by popular abd prevailing law. But as for the various religious institutions and movements, I think that they, being as they are detached from any palpable position of administering legally culpability, also have the right to dictate their own unique and peculiar brand of arbitrary ecclesiastical policy upon their members. Now, if one were to differ from such ecclesiastical – religious – dictates of policy, then they always have the option to simply leave that partucular religious affinity for that of another. But as for the extremist disfellowshipping mandates of cults such as the WT organization, the choice to allign with and comply with such mandates is, unfortunately, the privilege enjoyed by – and legally guaranteed by – its membership.
It’s a definite balancing act between allotting reasonable humanist laws by the state government guaranteeing fundamental rights and guaranteeing reasonable concessions and protection to all the various religious institutions and movements.
Basically, as I see it – as distasteful as it may be to some – if you don’t like any particular religious movement, then leave it and find another one. But, most unfortunately, if that would result in an extremest form of shunning, there’s really not much that can be done regarding the complicity of such shunning by family and friends. Although . . . . , fortunately, it is legitimately well within the auspices of all citizens of the “free world” to thoroughly expose the facts surrounding any such religious – or governmental, for that matter – entities to everyone.
So, basically, if you don’t like any religion, then just leave it. But if you can’t leave it without extremist sanctions (i.e., disfellowshipping/shunning), then thoroughly expose it – that’s your right too!
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I've decided to officially disassociate myself
by Garrett inhey guys, .
i just wanted to thank you all for all of your input, support and help over the past few months.
i've decided to officially disassociate myself from the organization and move on with my life.
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SAHS
Congratulations, Garrett! I’m always glad to hear about someone like you who has the gumption and personal fortitude to break out of a silly and obviously man-made society such as the WT organization/corporation. I believe you’ve certainly done the right thing. Sending a letter of disassociation to those clowns in New York who think they’re really something when they’re really nothing is actually a laudable action in that you are being true to yourself and innate human dignity in standing up to what is really nothing more than classic charlatanry. Once again, congratulations! -
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Old Hat
by Phaedra in15 years ago i joined this forum under a generic alias.. if it weren't for the fact that i have close family weaved into this tapestry of a religion i think i could have moved on long ago.. when you're connected, you're connected.. to those in the same boat, you're not alone.. we get it, and you.. hugs,.
phae.
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SAHS
Disfellowshipping and Armageddon are the WT’s version of “hell” – tools of the trade for religious charlatans to secure power and exercise control over the ignorant sheep. It’s the oldest trick in the book. Follow us and you’ll get to heaven/Nirvana/paradise – otherwise, there’s consequences. But wasting your whole life supposedly serving God through these evil and self-serving clowns is really the closest thing to hell right in the here and now. And if, say, you were to somehow manage to get into the JW paradise here on earth, when you think if it, you would be spending an eternity living in a world ruled by the new non-anointed governing body representatives of the WT organization in New York – and that would truly be hell! -
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Thoughts on My Exit
by losingit init has been some time since i last posted or even visited the site, and i wondered why that was.
life continued to be difficult without a network of friends to look forward to seeing.
the novelty of being disfellowshipped wore off, and the mundane advanced as it did every day.
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Congratulations on your family and career success! The good thing to always remember is that now you’ll never have to worry about that old “scriptural grounds” and “marry only in the Lord” (i.e., JWs) crap ever again. Now you can just go full steam ahead in living your life the way you were meant to – in true freedom, outside of that little WT prison box from which you and your kids have been lucky to escape. Always renember to show unconditional love to those kids, but also remember to always take care of yourself too. All the very best to you and your immediate family (minus the ex).
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A few thoughts
by Powermetal4ever insaturday night in the country where i am from, i am sitting by my computer alone and drinking and having some thoughts.
hos sad isnt that?
.....i am feeling a bit down right now and dont know what to do.had a call from my mum, she was among other things saying that its not very good that i dont go to meetings if they are not (she and my dad.
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I’ve been conscientiously doing some informal witnessing here and there on my own, which, now that I think of it, I could have added to my service time slip. I just wouldn’t have to say that it was all anti-witnessing. -
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It's starting shunning will stop brochure first.step
by poopie ini'm in contact with service and writing and brochure first step there bleeding publishers they can't take it anymore publishers are depressed because they feel they must shun others and they know it's unloving.
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The WT organization would never drop either the shunning or the no blood policy, because those two things have long become the hallmark of their “religion.” Ask anybody what first comes to their mind when you mention JWs, and right away they would inevitably bring up shunning and no blood transfusions (and then they would mention no Chtistmas and no birthdays, all in that order).
JWs without shunning and no blood would be like the Hare Krishna without the robes and drums or Jim Jones’ Peoples Temple without the Kool-Aid. It’s what defines them. And I couldn’t imagine the WT organization being willing to let go of their pet instruments of power and control – which have served them well. (The governing body, that is. Certainly not their followers.)
If they were to abolish, or to even relax, the powerful shunning weapon, then no doubt about half the membership would leave right off the bat because they would no longer be blackmailed by their families being held at ransom. A huge proportion of the young born-ins would then jump ship in a heartbeat (only about 33% of born-ins stay) – and the governing body knows that quite well!
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Sat., March 28th, TV program "48-hours" investigates JW killer, Christian Longo. Focuses on his impersonation of journalist
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.cbsnews.com/videos/48-hours-investigates-accused-killer-who-impersonated-journalist/ .
48 hours investigates accused killer who impersonated journalist.
march 27, 2015, 8:20 am|a journalist strikes up an unlikely friendship with an accused killer who took his name -- what happened next would become a book and a film.
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Thank you, “AndersonsInfo,” for the tip! I’ll be sure to set my PVR for the airing tonight. Here in the Greater Toronto Area (Ontario), it airs on Rogers Cable at 10:00 p.m. (eastern standard time, same time zone as New York, USA).
I always show these news items to my folks, but they always find ways of justifying things from a JW perspective. My dad is a very well-known, long-time elder in our general area. It seems that no matter what manifests itself in the media, such long-time, entrenched JWs never connect the dots – at least not in their conscious mind, anyway. All well. Every bit of such tidbits and items surely go to helping people at least taking another look at what is their very small world of indoctrination. -
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Breaking cognitive dissonance - or - how to get Bill Cosby to help a dub see the light
by undercover inlet me preface this by saying, i don't know if mr. cosby is guilty of all that he's being accused of.
the number of women coming out against him is pretty damning, but no real proof has been offered (that i'm aware of anyway).
and it is this circumstantial, hearsay evidence that can actually play into the hands of someone trying to get a jw to grasp the seriousness of the child abuse claims in the jw religion.. how so?.
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“Storm”: “The accusations against Mr. Cosby are against him as an individual. The people attacking Jehovah's Witnesses are seeking to make others responsible aside from the person who actually committed the crime.”
Actually, this is not a case of attacking all Jehovah’s Witness people, nor is it seeking to make others responsible aside from the person who actually committed the crime. At issue here are the policies of the Watchtower organization/corporation itself, which is under a legal and moral obligation to follow the secular laws in these matters. Thus, the plaintiffs’ legal actions, or ‘attacks’ as you call them, are properly, legitimately, and justly directed at the corporate entities of the Watchtower organization. The aim of such actions (including those others which may be pending) is only to effect punitive justice upon the individual perpetrators and effectively prevent those perpetrators from causing further harm to other victims, and, in practical monetary terms, punitive justice upon the legal/corporate entities of the Watchtower, which would hopefully result in them reexamining and improving their self-serving and harmful policies – but such cannot be judged as “attacking Jehovah’s Witnesses” as a people, like it’s some kind of archaic “community responsibility” punishment.
The Watchtower policies in dispute are those requiring local bodies of elders to immediately go through the legal department of the Watchtower before any consideration of notifying the proper authorities, as required by law, and which seek to protect the image of the Watchtower organization at all costs, even if it means covering up repeated and scandalous actions toward the vulnerable and the very young by deliberately failing to inform and warn others in congregations within the Jehovah’s Witness community. Elder bodies forwarding outstanding recommendations as introductory reports to other congregations on behalf of dangerous and habitual pedophile sexual predators, while they refuse to even acknowledge the testimonies of victims because of not having second or third witnesses to the crimes (which basically would never happen during sexual assaults on young children), certainly do not, in my opinion, in any way constitute even a basic and minimal due diligence in protecting the congregation – the flock – of which elders are supposedly assigned to do by their God-appointed position. That is what is at issue – the policies sanctioned and systematically implemented by a self-serving, arrogant, and corrupt organization.
The Watchtower couldn’t give a hoot about all those little victims of unwitnessed indecent assaults, . . . BUT, should somebody ever get caught having anything to do with any holiday celebrations or allowing their baby to have a necessary lifesaving blood transfusion, or even just storing their own blood to make it available for an upcoming dangerous surgery – then you’ll see the vicious punitive fangs of the Watchtower organization come out in full fury! Think about it.