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  Dead pregnant woman forced to stay on life support, due to TX State law

  by adamah in

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  there's an interesting medicolegal issue arising out of tx, a pregnant women who suffered a pulmonary embolism in november and died (when she was 14 weeks pregnant).. however, the body has been kept on life-support all this time (against her and her husband's wishes), due to an ambiguous tx state law (tex hs.

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  166.049) which actually blocks the ability of the patient and family to decide:.

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  FlyingHighNow

  Shouldn't the husband have that right to decide?

  No. Fathers do not have the right to decide whether a mother carries a baby to term or not.
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  Dead pregnant woman forced to stay on life support, due to TX State law

  by adamah in

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  there's an interesting medicolegal issue arising out of tx, a pregnant women who suffered a pulmonary embolism in november and died (when she was 14 weeks pregnant).. however, the body has been kept on life-support all this time (against her and her husband's wishes), due to an ambiguous tx state law (tex hs.

  code ann.

  166.049) which actually blocks the ability of the patient and family to decide:.

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  FlyingHighNow

  She cannot share in the wonder of the cycle of life, and your sharing the joys of motherhood in a thread about a deceased women is rather insensitive.

  Oh jeez, did you ever take that out of context. We were discussing how this mother would feel is she was living. Adam, I'm beginning to see some genuine wisecracker in you. Something you might consider doing, trying, though I assume you are a man, is trying to be empathetic. Yes, this mother is deceased, so she cannot answer for herself. This doesn't mean that if she could speak for herself, she would pull the plug on the baby she wanted before she had her embolism. For most of us mothers posting here on this thread, those of us who wanted our babies, we can tell you that we'd do anything to save our babies' lives, including be on life support to continue the pregnancy. We wouldn't walk around calling them fetuses and saying, "Well, if I'm brain dead, but my fetus still has a heartbeat and continues to thrive, pull the plug anyway. Clearly your feelings are more important than the fetus."
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  Dead pregnant woman forced to stay on life support, due to TX State law

  by adamah in

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  2. current

  there's an interesting medicolegal issue arising out of tx, a pregnant women who suffered a pulmonary embolism in november and died (when she was 14 weeks pregnant).. however, the body has been kept on life-support all this time (against her and her husband's wishes), due to an ambiguous tx state law (tex hs.

  code ann.

  166.049) which actually blocks the ability of the patient and family to decide:.

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  FlyingHighNow

  FHN I wish this forum had a LIKE button next to posts. I would so LIKE your post. I have been pg 3 times, 2 live births one miscarriage at 3 months. It is a baby from the moment you suspect you may be pg. It has life . I was devastated at the loss of my baby. It looked human and was human.

  Are you sure you you didn't have any fetus showers or register your fetus with Macy', Target and Kohl's? We know the scientific name for various stage pregnancies, this is true, but I don't remember anyone telling me she was expecting an embryo, or how far along her fetus was. I'm doubting this Texas mother called her baby a fetus either, unless she was getting technical with someone. My doctors called my embryos and fetuses babies. "Heather, your baby is the size of a poppy seed, but by the end of the month it will equal two sesame seeds, end to end." "Can you feel your baby's kicks yet?" "Your baby is due March 4th, calculated by your last period." My childhood pediatric gastroenterologist:"I can feel your baby kick: precious cargo." <......I visited him when I was 25 and carrying my second child.
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  Dead pregnant woman forced to stay on life support, due to TX State law

  by adamah in

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  there's an interesting medicolegal issue arising out of tx, a pregnant women who suffered a pulmonary embolism in november and died (when she was 14 weeks pregnant).. however, the body has been kept on life-support all this time (against her and her husband's wishes), due to an ambiguous tx state law (tex hs.

  code ann.

  166.049) which actually blocks the ability of the patient and family to decide:.

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  FlyingHighNow

  if she were alive and wondering about the health of this fetus, would number one call it a fetus

  This, on the other hand, IS an appeal the emotion. Fetus is the scientific term, regardless of what the hypothetically alive mother would call it. And I can't even hazard a guess as to why you think it relevant to the discussion.

  I don't know if you've been pregnant, but expectant mothers call their babies, baby. They don't say things like, "Oh, I went to the doctor today and the fetus now is probably 2 pounds and has a very healthy heart beat." Or "Oh, the fetus kicked! Come here, see if you can feel the fetus." Or, "We decided to paint the fetus' nursery today." Expectant mothers who want their babies, call them baby.
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  The Cult of N. Korea--Frontline's “Secret State of North Korea” compare to WTBTS--discussion

  by FlyingHighNow in

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  did any of you see this program on pbs?

  did you see how dangerously similar n. korea is to the wtbts?

  did you notice one huge difference, that north koreans are not brainwashed like most still active jws are?

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  At 10:40 begins speaking about propaganda which is so reminiscent of the false facade that the WTBTS presents to its members and especially to the outside world. More and more N. Koreans wake up to the false N. Korea presented on state TV. We only hope that millions will wake up to the false WT society and organization that is fed to JWs and beyond.
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  The Cult of N. Korea--Frontline's “Secret State of North Korea” compare to WTBTS--discussion

  by FlyingHighNow in

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  did any of you see this program on pbs?

  did you see how dangerously similar n. korea is to the wtbts?

  did you notice one huge difference, that north koreans are not brainwashed like most still active jws are?

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  FlyingHighNow

  I'm watching this again. Something else that strikes me: the need to put on a false facade to N. Koreans, as well as the rest of the world.
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  The Cult of N. Korea--Frontline's “Secret State of North Korea” compare to WTBTS--discussion

  by FlyingHighNow in

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  did any of you see this program on pbs?

  did you see how dangerously similar n. korea is to the wtbts?

  did you notice one huge difference, that north koreans are not brainwashed like most still active jws are?

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  FlyingHighNow

  Yes, and don't forget the mind games! Men are like toys in women's hands sometimes, it's sad how easy we are to manipulate with a bit of sex and a bit of ego-tweaking. That too might have been an adaptation by women to keep some balance of power in the relationship. Also, the woman's aid is needed to raise the baby, so that means the man needs her as an ally to raise his child. Thus, the cliché of simply dragging the woman to one's cave isn't going to cut it.

  This is kind of out of the topic of the thread here, but it might surprise you to know how many husbands, SOs use sex to punish their wives and SOs. When a woman has a very healthy libido, men sometimes don't know how to handle it.
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  Dead pregnant woman forced to stay on life support, due to TX State law

  by adamah in

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  2. current

  there's an interesting medicolegal issue arising out of tx, a pregnant women who suffered a pulmonary embolism in november and died (when she was 14 weeks pregnant).. however, the body has been kept on life-support all this time (against her and her husband's wishes), due to an ambiguous tx state law (tex hs.

  code ann.

  166.049) which actually blocks the ability of the patient and family to decide:.

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  FlyingHighNow

  Further - they worked in Texas and as part of the health services, would no doubt been fully aware of Texas law in these sort of cases and didn't have an issue with it - as long as it didn't affect them. Or was the wife accepting of the fact that should anything happen to her, that her unborn child would be the priority and all attempts made to secure the life of her child. Did she believe that no matter what her husband would have done all he could to make certian that their child was the priority in times of life and death? Who knows?

  I agree with you, SW.
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  Dead pregnant woman forced to stay on life support, due to TX State law

  by adamah in

  1. social
  2. current

  there's an interesting medicolegal issue arising out of tx, a pregnant women who suffered a pulmonary embolism in november and died (when she was 14 weeks pregnant).. however, the body has been kept on life-support all this time (against her and her husband's wishes), due to an ambiguous tx state law (tex hs.

  code ann.

  166.049) which actually blocks the ability of the patient and family to decide:.

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  FlyingHighNow

  Well that's why this is a science experiment.

  Respectfully, this sounds like an appeal to the emotions of people who might confuse this case with pro-life or pro-choice: is this fetus a human life or not? I doubt the mother, if she were alive and wondering about the health of this fetus, would number one call it a fetus and number two, consider it a science experiment, even if it had questionable health.
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  Dead pregnant woman forced to stay on life support, due to TX State law

  by adamah in

  1. social
  2. current

  there's an interesting medicolegal issue arising out of tx, a pregnant women who suffered a pulmonary embolism in november and died (when she was 14 weeks pregnant).. however, the body has been kept on life-support all this time (against her and her husband's wishes), due to an ambiguous tx state law (tex hs.

  code ann.

  166.049) which actually blocks the ability of the patient and family to decide:.

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  FlyingHighNow

  Yet, the state of Texas is forcing the expenditure of THOUSANDS of dollars when that money could be spent to save the lives of people already living! That is a moral travesty.

  A wise mother once said to me, people are more important than things. Money is only a thing when it comes down to the brass tacks.