Posts by snugglebunny

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Leaving the JW's is like a game of Poker....

by Turquoisepeace in

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friends

leaving the religion can be likened to a game of poker.

many possible scenarios can be played out during the game and the potential loss or gains are many:.

you have put too many chips in, every round it just seems you will win it all in the end.

snugglebunny

I think it's a great analogy, but then, I've been playing poker for fifty years (just realized, wow, I am OLD). As kids, we played 5 card stud and blackjack (21) using toothpicks for chips. Parents let us play 'for fun'. But I digress. Back on topic ...

Playing poker for fun very quickly palls. For a while I joined in a once a week game of 7 card stud, sit down money £10, once it's gone it's gone but you might win 50 quid,

However, it's not enough. It has to hurt a little bit if you lose and feel good if you clean up. So now we play once a month, sit down money £50. That means £250 possible winnings unless you fold the game early.

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Just Refused Mags from Rich Customer

by snugglebunny in

oh dear.

i have a customer - dave - who gives me frequent and profitable work sometimes.

i'm retired but am happy to do a little bit part-time.. this morning i called to rectify some work he'd had done by a not-so expert "tradesman".

snugglebunny

Oh dear. I have a customer - Dave - who gives me frequent and profitable work sometimes. I'm retired but am happy to do a little bit part-time.

This morning I called to rectify some work he'd had done by a not-so expert "tradesman". On the way out he offered me a down-loaded copy of the latest Watchtower! I said no thanks, not for me. He persisted anyway, but I remained adamant and in the end told him that I wouldn't have JW material in the house. I told him that my parents had been JW's and that the religion had torn my family apart.

And then he told me that he'd been disfellowshipped back in 1980!

And then he told me that he was now going to all the meetings and had applied to be reinstated on 2 occasions and been turned down each time.

I said that the organisation was run by men wearing big Rolex's, is that where he wanted to be? He responded that he was going to try for reinstatement one more time and if it was still no he wouldn't bother with the witnesses anymore.

The guy is loaded financially. I wonder why he bothers?

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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

by Designer Stubble in

the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

snugglebunny

It amazes me that the WBT$ is passively aggressivly being anti-gay (no surprises there from a faux fundie cult), but through their actions, allow paedophiles to thrive within their ranks. You woul;d have thought that if they were that anti anything sexual that they'd really stop the paedophile thing. But then I suspect they are protecting the higher ups (GB), within the WBT$ who may be paedophiles themselves.

It's about protection alright, but protection from negative publicity. That's their main fear, so they just want to keep it all under wraps. They also need to be seen to doing the right thing, that's why all such cases get referred to HQ who then can decide what degree of hushing-up can be done without incriminating themselves legally.

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Berkshire Circuit (UK)

by Dont_Believe_The_Truth in

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friends

i'm hearing rumours of huge changes within the berkshire circuit here in the uk .

congregations being dispanded and kingdom halls closing down and being sold off.... official announcements within the next month apparently .

does anyone else have anymore info?.

snugglebunny

All those congregations are in the Greater London catchment area. The cost of building land there is through the roof. They're obviously trying to raise cash for whatever purpose.. Couple that with the changes in the ownership of the KH's and there's some fishy stuff afoot!

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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

by Designer Stubble in

the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

snugglebunny

Anybody who thinks they could permit gay marriage without totally destroying their organisation is living in a fantasy world

Therefore are JW's actually homophobic? If permitting gay marriage would indeed destroy their organisation, then their fear is actually well founded. If it's well-founded and not irrational, then it's not a phobia. Hatred doesn't always equal phobia.

Dictionary.com: Phobia definition, a persistent, irrational fear of a specific object, activity, or situation that leads to a compelling desire to avoid it

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Shooting in the foot (homophobic video)

by Syme in

with the newly released homophobic video by the wts, it gets clearer that those people can't stop shooting themselves in the foot.

they are already under examination and de facto trial by the australian committee; more and more people and officials in western democracies inquire into their abusive tactics and put them under the microscope, and what do they do?

they release a video which confirms those worries.

snugglebunny

To me being Phobic about something, you have to have an irrational fear of it to the point that it is interupting your daily activities. It used to be that to be called intolerant, phobic or bigoted, you had to actually do something mean or harmful to someone else or be behaving irrationally.

The situation now is such that expressing reserve for any aspect of a minority group will result in a person being verbally tarred and feathered. And not just by the members of that group either. John Cleese says it well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAK0KXEpF8U

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New ANTI-GAY video for Kids on jw.org

by ttdtt in

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/.

disgusting!.

snugglebunny

My mother can go on hour long rants about how disgusting gays are. She does this in front of non jw's too and I used to tell her how shocked they were by what she said (you could see it in their faces although she never noticed) but my mother thinks she's giving a great witness by her ranting homophobia! I guess in a way she is... An anti witness!

I used to get the same from my JW mother. However, I have to say that I believe much of her dislike was based on the fact that gays are usually impervious to feminine wiles.. :-)

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New Anti Gay Cartoon Video not available in German

by Daniel1555 in

the lesson 22 video or better called anti gay video went viral.. there is another thread that main dutch media covered it in their articles.. i wanted to write to one of the biggest swiss newspapers about it.

that newspaper also covered the controversy about the "meeting" cartoon, where the message is made that if jw children don't listen at the meetings they might get killed finally.. then i realized that it is not available in german.. it is available in so many other languages, like guarani (never heard of that language), but german is missing.. are they afraid to offer it in german?

do they expect too much controversy in germany?.

snugglebunny

They are very multilingual

Cunning linguists - all of them.

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New ANTI-GAY video for Kids on jw.org

by ttdtt in

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/.

disgusting!.

snugglebunny

So back to the "people can change" thing. Cutting to the nitty-gritty, the WT are stating that you can make yourself like something if you try hard enough? Or that a homosexual guy can force himself to be turned on by women? Or a lesbian lass can get the hots for George Clooney if she puts her mind to it?

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New ANTI-GAY video for Kids on jw.org

by ttdtt in

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/.

disgusting!.

snugglebunny

Nothing has really changed, there are no surprises here. Witnesses have always been obsessed about sex one way or another. So the video is no surprise either. Notice how they lump everything on "it's what Jehovah wants" in an attempt to distance themselves from accusations of bigotry. I wouldn't go so far as to say it's hateful but it's certainly manipulative.