Having experienced knocking on heaven's door a couple of times, I can tell you that all you worry about is your family and how they will handle their loss.
snugglebunny
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"how awful it must be to be dying as an apostate!"
by purrpurr ini heard today about a former jw/now apostate who is dying in hospital.
this information was accompanied by the comment of "wouldn't be awful to be lying there in hospital,dying as an apostate!
knowing that you have no hope!?
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JW Witnessing Trolleys. To approach or ignore what is your preference and why?
by KateWild ini saw two brothers this morning next to the main train station in liverpool city centre this morning.
they were not actively approaching anyone.
what i found strange was that they were from a cong that has different territory, so i don't know why they were there.. anyway i knew them both, and they know i was df'd, i was in my car and couldn't park up for a chat, but i did beep and wave to them as i drove passed and they waved back.
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snugglebunny
Ah..the good old days - not!
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JW Witnessing Trolleys. To approach or ignore what is your preference and why?
by KateWild ini saw two brothers this morning next to the main train station in liverpool city centre this morning.
they were not actively approaching anyone.
what i found strange was that they were from a cong that has different territory, so i don't know why they were there.. anyway i knew them both, and they know i was df'd, i was in my car and couldn't park up for a chat, but i did beep and wave to them as i drove passed and they waved back.
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snugglebunny
Ignore, apart from once taking a pic of them at a Christmas market.
I don't see any point in confronting. That would just reinforce all they've been told about ex's.
The only time I've had a meaningful conversation with JW's was when I didn't admit to being an ex, just told them that my parents had lost everything in the build up to 1975. That gets them going a bit. I did cheat about my brother being disfellowshipped when I told them that they'd split my family apart by not speaking to him. I just let them think that I was a never been.
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How Long Does This Religion Have Left?
by pale.emperor inthe generation that will be no means pass away have passed away.. the 144,000 were sealed up in 1935, oh, no wait, we got that wrong, we still have some.. russel is the faithful and wise servant... oh, no he wasn't it was me, rutherford... no, actually, we got that wrong it's knorr... erm, no we mean the governing body.. shunning is pagan, true christians would never do that (1946)... oh, actually, we should do that too.. the revelation book has been re-written.. the un is the satan's visible organisation.. wtbs signs up for fellowship with the un in 1991.. exposed in the guardian newspaper so ends it's fellowship in 2001.. the greatest man book is now obsolete and replaced with another jesus book.. the mags are reduced in pages.. encouraged to use tablets instead of actual books to save paper (money).
halls being sold off.. congregations sharing halls.. society owned buildings being sold off.. video pertitioning for money only last year to fund a new building.. bethelites reduced.. missionaries sent back home.. young members leaving.. long time members discovering the history and leaving.. how long do you think this religion has left?
i cant see it being here in another 100 years.
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snugglebunny
It will always have it's followers. It took me ages to understand that no matter how devastating and rational the real TATT was, Stockholm Syndrome will always prevail.
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Stockholm+syndrome
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Home bookstudy ended because of 'independent study' groups? Any interesting stories regarding these types of groups?
by Nicodemus Kathoplizo insomeone suggested the other day that the home bookstudy meeting ended because of 'independent study' groups (in ireland) going 'off the reservation' and left the truth (tm).. has anyone heard of this before?.
does anyone have interesting stories of 'independent study' groups resulting in large scale apostasy?.
they did not publish this for no reason:.
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snugglebunny
This old assembly video clearly demonstrates the great sociability that used to be present among JW's. And, yes, I was there!
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Home bookstudy ended because of 'independent study' groups? Any interesting stories regarding these types of groups?
by Nicodemus Kathoplizo insomeone suggested the other day that the home bookstudy meeting ended because of 'independent study' groups (in ireland) going 'off the reservation' and left the truth (tm).. has anyone heard of this before?.
does anyone have interesting stories of 'independent study' groups resulting in large scale apostasy?.
they did not publish this for no reason:.
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snugglebunny
If you observe the changes made over the last couple of decades, it becomes obvious that any association among JW's that isn't controlled by Brooklyn has been discouraged. The group study with it's after-study refreshments and chit-chat has been abolished. The 10 minute break between the public talk and the WT study has gone. The same for assembly meals with their sociable food line queues.
They just don't want anyone socialising outside their control!
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Field Service Privilege Can Be Taken Away Due to Hairstyle and Tight Pants???
by Wild_Thing inmillie2105 hours agohere is something i just found out this week.former belief - field service is a publishers inalienable right new belief - field service privilege can be taken away if person styles hair or wears clothing in a way that is deemed metrosexual.i was pretty much dumbfounded.. this was posted on another thread, so i decided to start a new topic about this.
i think this is amazing!
i wish this was in place when i was a kid.
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Beards - September 2016 Watchtower
by Listener inthe issue of whether beards are acceptable or not is addressed in the september 2016 watchtower - well sort of.
it is as clear as mud as to whether they are allowed in places like australia, usa and britain.. 17. what are some factors that may affect whether a brother wears a beard?17 what about the propriety of brothers wearing a beard?
the mosaic law required men to wear a beard.
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snugglebunny
I tried to grow a beard once. It was a real wispy Jesus beard. When I eventually shaved it off my wife didn't even notice!
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WT September 2016: Tight Pants (Does your style of dress Glorify God?
by Designer Stubble inwe will not weigh you down with burdensome lists, as you have the freedom to choose, but here is our list anyway.some snippets:.
the law showed jehovah’s strong feelings against clothing that does not make clear the distinction between male and female—what has been described in our day as unisex fashion.
(read deuteronomy 22:5.
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snugglebunny
My pants are always tight - but that's more about my pot belly than the way they're tailored...
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The Ray Franz Saga
by snugglebunny ini'm just curious as to how it all happened.. to explain.
many years back, before ex-jw websites, i called on a local lady in order to design an extension to her already enormous house.
she was a young, voluptuous gal, married to a much older local business man who spared little expense in order to give his young wife whatever her heart desired.. we chatted for ages.
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I'm just curious as to how it all happened.
To explain. Many years back, before ex-JW websites, I called on a local lady in order to design an extension to her already enormous house. She was a young, voluptuous gal, married to a much older local business man who spared little expense in order to give his young wife whatever her heart desired.
We chatted for ages. She then told me that she was a member of the local congregation of JW's and that the congregation had been rocked by the news that a member of the Governing Body had been disfellowshipped. I was quite taken aback, knowing nothing of this at the time. But I do remember how shaken up she was. Bearing in mind that she was from a small congregation in England and she was talking of goings-on in New York, I wondered later how she could possibly of known about it.
So my questions are these: How were the congregations actually told about the disfellowshipping of Ray Franz? Was an announcement made at an assembly? And how did the JW's react at the time? How was the damage-limitation machinery brought into play? What was the general atmosphere like at the time?
Any information would be gratefully received!
