It seems to be a cultural difference like the "beard thing" in the nordic countries, here un Chile, the young are VERY frown upon entering "Higer Education", brothers and sisters would tell you things like "and how many years that would take, oh I HOPE YOU HAVE THE TIME BEFORE THIS SYSTEM ENDS", "you better look for a non-medical field because if you choose a medical carreer you'll have no job in the new system"...
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Is Watchtower's stance against education only for North American witnesses
by wannaexit ini was reading on a european ex jw forum where some feel that watchtower's railing against higher education is primarily for north america issue.
this is due that many in usa and canada leave home to leave on campus.
it was mentioned that many young european jw attend universities and its not frowned on.. i found this odd because i heard what morris and losch said about education in italy.
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What is truth?
by Heisenberg inwell, i have been lurking on this site for several months and i recently decided to join as a member.
i have made several observations and would like to make a few comments.. first, i am perplexed by the attitude of many on this site that are either former or active (but apostate) jws.
they seem to have a strong hatred for the wts and also for rank and file jws.
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Mandrake
Welcome Heisenberg... Hey! Remember that words doesn't have only one meaning... If you look up the meaning we use here for CULT that is:
Note that the below definition is the first that appears when you loop up at www.tfd.comcult
(kŭlt)
n. 1. a. A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader. -or- A religious organization or movement which deviates from the established religious tradition in the community.
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What's Your Favorite Perfume or Cologne?
by minimus init is xmas time and perfumes and colognes are on the list.
what do you really love for a scent if you were being given a gift?.
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Mandrake
go Guerlain!
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How to disassociate? HELP
by Mandrake ini'm looking for a way to disassociate myself, now i'm thinking to make a "public declaration" before a civil law notary (i'm in chile), but i need some ideas about what to put in that declaration, i would like to look the "ks" book to cover all possible sides and make a solid declaration... any experiences?
my plan is to make that legal declaration that would say "i'm no longer consider myself a jehovah's witness nor want to be linked to any of the wt organizations or legal entities, and want all my personal records to be erased"... any orientation will be helpful :).
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Mandrake
Thank you for all your opinions, as a background I can tell you that I'm a born in but only mother and father are witnesses, the rest of my family don't. I have a few friends inside but they know that I already DONT believe in the cult anymore and are even willing to keep in contact with me if I get DF o DA. My family broke up a year ago in a very very painful and bitter way so elders know I have a worldly girlfriend and I'm inactive... I'm more and more involved with my university friends and to be honest I feel ready for the final step... Well I'm thinking of making that official declaration, and keep it to myself and wait (months, even years) to show it to the elders and get them to give the "announce", It can be possible that I even won't show it at all, but making it will be by some reason a relief for me... I'll tell you what happens :) thank you again, It's been almost 2-3 year of lurking before strating to post :)
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What's Your Favorite Perfume or Cologne?
by minimus init is xmas time and perfumes and colognes are on the list.
what do you really love for a scent if you were being given a gift?.
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Mandrake
Vetive - Guerlain
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How to disassociate? HELP
by Mandrake ini'm looking for a way to disassociate myself, now i'm thinking to make a "public declaration" before a civil law notary (i'm in chile), but i need some ideas about what to put in that declaration, i would like to look the "ks" book to cover all possible sides and make a solid declaration... any experiences?
my plan is to make that legal declaration that would say "i'm no longer consider myself a jehovah's witness nor want to be linked to any of the wt organizations or legal entities, and want all my personal records to be erased"... any orientation will be helpful :).
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Mandrake
I'm no longer attending, I'm working to finish my 4th year of dentistry, have a nice girlfriend, but I don't want to be "inactive", I need that satisfaction of "hitting first" and made my point...
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How to disassociate? HELP
by Mandrake ini'm looking for a way to disassociate myself, now i'm thinking to make a "public declaration" before a civil law notary (i'm in chile), but i need some ideas about what to put in that declaration, i would like to look the "ks" book to cover all possible sides and make a solid declaration... any experiences?
my plan is to make that legal declaration that would say "i'm no longer consider myself a jehovah's witness nor want to be linked to any of the wt organizations or legal entities, and want all my personal records to be erased"... any orientation will be helpful :).
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Mandrake
I'm looking for a way to disassociate myself, now I'm thinking to make a "public declaration" before a civil law notary (I'm in Chile), but I need some ideas about what to put in that declaration, I would like to look the "ks" book to cover all possible sides and make a solid declaration... Any experiences? My plan is to make that legal declaration that would say "I'm no longer consider myself a jehovah's witness nor want to be linked to any of the WT organizations or legal entities, and want all my personal records to be erased"... Any orientation will be helpful :)
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Between the sword and the wall
by Mandrake ina brief forewords; my family "exploded" 1-2 years ago, and my parents divorced, the hard way, mom tried to suicide, little sister (15) also (she is "fully wordly" now and very damaged psychologically).
father left and took my sister with him.
i'm "inactive", and dating with a wordly girl with my mom "approval".
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Mandrake
:) it went better than expected, a little step in my "recovery", felt very different from the last meetings I remember...
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Between the sword and the wall
by Mandrake ina brief forewords; my family "exploded" 1-2 years ago, and my parents divorced, the hard way, mom tried to suicide, little sister (15) also (she is "fully wordly" now and very damaged psychologically).
father left and took my sister with him.
i'm "inactive", and dating with a wordly girl with my mom "approval".
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Mandrake
A brief forewords; my family "exploded" 1-2 years ago, and my parents divorced, the hard way, mom tried to suicide, little sister (15) also (she is "fully wordly" now and very damaged psychologically). Father left and took my sister with him. I'm "inactive", and dating with a "wordly" girl with my mom "approval". Now its the first assembly for my mom "alone", but she realized is the same assembly that my father were assigned and also the woman with whom he cheated mommy (a pioneer)... (my father and the other woman had been evading proper discipline and want to get things "straight")...
So, meeting all that people alone could be a little bit shocking for my mother and a BAD BAD BAD reaction can be triggered, so I told my mom: "mom, I'll go with you on saturday, you know I DONT BELIEVE IN IT I'll be there to support you... Well that was 100% honest, but my father is not going now and thus I don't want to go either now, and I'm VERY anguised about attending a full day of crap :(
I offered to go with her because I truly wanted to avoid ugly conflicts or physical confrontation, but well, my word has been given, I told her now that I don't want to go, she frown and got very sad, but I managed to "negotiate" and I will go to pick her up 1 hour before the program ends. I hope that would be more bearable than the full day, any suggestion? Is my first meeting in more than a year!!! But aside that, I don't give a **** about what the people from my ex-cong thinks about me now, well, I respect true affection but I'm not taking any WT advise... And well a good thing is that my mom is OK with me showing up in shorts and a light beard hahahaha
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Anyone from Chile here?
by Mandrake inhey!
i'm new here, and i'm posting from chile, anyone else?
i bet we have some lurkers from here too, hope you register :).
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Mandrake
Me myself had to raise the flag once, I was 15 years old (now i'm 24) "100% truth :)