The first picture of baptism from the 1970 calendar is painted in a HUGE format in a wall at the side of the platform of Chile's Betel Assembly Hall... I looked at it all my childhood....
Mandrake
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Do you remember this WT calendar art?
by compound complex inthese are of early '70s vintage, i recall.
my job was to sort through thousands of these and be sure they were not "off register.".
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I need help, I'm falling in love with a JW girl
by nebula-- inso i met her at my last job that i worked & we started off as friends.
i didn't know her faith at the time & i honestly couldn't have cared less, seeing as i'm agnostic.
after about a year, i began developing emotions for her & sure enough, we ended up dating for a little while.
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Mmmm... Time ago I was the boy in this religion and she was the girl out (she was *very* catholic)... We always hit the same wall... It was 3 torturous years of relationship, of being "friends" but at the same time given the I-will-love-you-forever-even-if-I-say-and-act-the-opposite-look. I never had the courage to confront my parents or to break this religion's system... She couldn't wait for me, my doubts, guilt, and existential trouble would not find a solution quick... That was until my family were shattered by my parents ugly divorce... I left the cult... Few months after I broke up with her I started dating other girl, that is my girlfriend to this date and now we have been *very* happy the last 3 years...
What lessons did I learn?
-We get used to that constant angst and turmoil derived from me being a JW and going against the stupid rules, I regret all the time wasted and constant delay of the conflict, there were 2 obvious conclusions, she will never leave the Catholic Church because they don't imposed her stupid rules and punishes, and that I was dominated by the cult induced fear and guilt
-Maybe if a were a little braver things could have ended up different, even we could broke up anyway, but not from religious pressure
-I will never forgive myself for listening others in what to do with *my life* (maybe she will regret too)
-Our relationship would never work the way it was, she in a ever-waiting-for-me-to-leave-or-break-the-rules or me in a I-feel-guilt-for-leaving-my-whole-life-in-the-cult-and-family-behind
-If my parents never divorced maybe I would still be in and alone
So... My friend, chances for you two are very slim, but as you are in love I'm sure you will take the risk... You won't listen any counsel in the opposite direction, but at least learn from my experience and don't linger there, you may be trapped for life in a once-beautiful now toxic relationship. Sometimes I think that dumping me was good for me and my ex herself. You won't succeed while she's in that religion. It's been 3 years outside for me, and I'm still in the middle of the healing process from that dangerous cult.
Well... What happened? I never talked to her anymore, then I left the cult, started a new relationship, we are happy now, I learned my lesson, behind is a past full of "maybe", and I'm trying to heal completely from my cult and toxic-relationship past. Anyhow I'm grateful of her, she was important in my life and in my way out.
And remember that other religions may tolerate inter-religious couples, JWs don't!
http://unusualplaces.org/graves-of-a-catholic-woman-and-her-protestant-husband-2/ -
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Watchtower and The X-Files
by StarTrekAngel ini've been watching the show all over again, with my kids.
we are in season 6 and there has been at least 3 mentions of jw in the show.. in one episode, mulder and scully get to a house and when they get there they realize the doorbell button has been ripped off.
they look at each other and mulder says "frustrated jehovah's witness?".
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Ex-jw writers I think!
The simpsons also have a reference or two...
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Howto: get access to scientific papers
by Anders Andersen insince most people are not aware on how to get (free*) access to scientific papers and journals, so here's a short list of resources.. search http://scholar.google.com for the paper.
maybe you'll get lucky and find it somewhere for free.. if you can only find a paid for version of the paper, get the title, doi (sort of like an isbn number) and link to the download page of the paper on the paysite.. if you don't know the doi, find it by searching your paper's title on http://crossref.org.
go to the libgen site (links here: https://sites.google.com/site/themetalibrary/library-genesis ) and search for the paper.
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Mandrake
Sorry Village Idiot but i'm not taking any courses this year! :( next march maybe if I make it in again to finish my degree!
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Howto: get access to scientific papers
by Anders Andersen insince most people are not aware on how to get (free*) access to scientific papers and journals, so here's a short list of resources.. search http://scholar.google.com for the paper.
maybe you'll get lucky and find it somewhere for free.. if you can only find a paid for version of the paper, get the title, doi (sort of like an isbn number) and link to the download page of the paper on the paysite.. if you don't know the doi, find it by searching your paper's title on http://crossref.org.
go to the libgen site (links here: https://sites.google.com/site/themetalibrary/library-genesis ) and search for the paper.
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Mmmm... I use the VPN of my university and that magically grant me access to most scientific journals and most articles for free... even the paid ones ...
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Finally found a friend I can talk to
by StarTrekAngel inhe is an old friend that used to attend my congo.
he moved away closer to his parents at some point and we lost touch.
for a couple of years i did not hear anything from him.
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how it went or going?
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Vacation time...is reality closing up on my wife?
by StarTrekAngel inthis time apart from all things jw has been a real blessing for us as a couple.
i am pretty sure the wife is going to head out to the meeting.
we did not have a single argument and felt pretty connected the whole time.
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I really hate the macho-culture and stuff... On the other hand, wine is probably the best thing human kind has achieved ever... I really hope your wife will comprehend that no-life can be well spent sticking to the WT religion, I bet that she will take a stand for something beyond the wt, her life and yours together, but it must be her own decision, just take an expecting role... my mother turned to that approach 3 years after her divorce, and I never saw it coming, now we have birthdays and stuff (she even bet for our country's soccer matches!)
Sadly, I'm very familiar with that move of the "golden vacation" before splitting up, i guess married couples wanting to divorce aren't much creative...
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What's your favourite feel good movie ?
by jhine inmaybe it's time for a less serious thread .
i have just finished watching dirty dancing ( again ) .
what is your feel good movie , the one that makes you smile and cry happy tears ?
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1) Shawshank redemption... My dream is to find my own zihuatanejo
2) Le fabuleux destin d'Amelie poulain
3) scent of a woman
4) Django unchained... It makes me Feel like it's my own revenge
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Latest religious lunacy... Suicide by Lion
by Mandrake inyesterday, here in santiago, chile, some stupid ***** yerk tried to kill himself by entering naked to the lions cage in broad day light and while the zoo was filled with people!...
sad part is the zoo personnel had to shoot dead the lions (male and female, 22 years old)... because waiting for the tranquilizers to take effect would be the sarah of the man.... at first everyone thought it was a suicide attempt, but later they found in his garments some kind of letter stating that armageddon had come and that he is daniel the prophet and god would save him... and he signed the letter as "jesus christ".
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3602819/naked-man-jumps-zoo-s-lion-enclosure-suicide-bid-survives-grave-condition-two-beasts-mauling-killed.html.
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Yesterday, here in Santiago, Chile, some stupid ***** yerk tried to kill himself by entering naked to the lions cage in broad day light and while the zoo was filled with people!... Sad part is the zoo personnel had to shoot dead the lions (Male and female, 22 years old)... Because waiting for the tranquilizers to take effect would be the Sarah of the man...
at first everyone thought it was a suicide attempt, but later they found in his garments some kind of letter stating that Armageddon had come and that he is Daniel the prophet and God would save him... And he signed the letter as "Jesus Christ"
everybody is sad a about the the dead lions and hating that stupid poor devil... He's 20 and struggling to survive now...
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Similar but not the same
by Deleteandrestart inafter watching ceders you tube video on muslim and jw shunning, i thought i'd look at some other ex religious you tubers, so i looked at the mormon ones, .
theres a lot of them but what struck me was the very similar mindsets and the way the internet made them start to question from a critical thinking point of view their own faith , it was just like another brand of the exact same thing and these people were experiencing the same thoughts as we get when we start to leave/question the "truth ",.
the main difference seems t be that jw shunning is totally merciless and never ending, and no real forgiveness takes place unless you cave in .
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Mandrake
Same 💩 Different smell