I have never thought of this... Maybe as I was born in I never questioned the existence and "uniqueness" of this article outside a KH. At least in Chile back in the day (early 2000s to 2010s) each KH had unique designs made locally by some carpenter brother ... Ones were crappy designs with just a bolt pressing on the wood leaving it with a pretty black stain mark and others were premium quality like the ones at the Assembly venues...
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Is that podium thing unique to JW's? Do they build them?
by InterestedOne ini was wondering about that half-table/half-podium thing that jw's use on the platform.
is that unique to jw's & do they build them, like shakers had their own furniture?.
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Recently Disfellowshipped
by PersonOfGlitter inhi i’m getting disfellowshipped on thursday and was wondering what advice those that have left have for me.
i’m not sure if i still believe or not.
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Don't look back! You're not alone
It takes times but life gets easier, and you'll start to perceive things differently... It's hard sometimes to deprogram oneself
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What’s Your Favorite Breakfast??
by minimus into me, breakfast can be served at any time of the day.
a local bar in my area serves breakfast all day long.
for 5 bucks you get 2 eggs any way you like, bacon sausage or ham with home fries and toast!!
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Earl Grey tea, always, or smoked black tea with cinnamon
"Pan tostado con queso y palta" or toasted bread with smashed avocado and cheese, with a little garlic... A little exotic for our British friends I think...
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Involved(ish) with a JW Man.
by BNG-713 ini know there are several posts about witnesses and non-witnesses in regards to relationships.
i couldn’t find anything specifically that spoke to me, so i would love some third-party advice and thoughts.. i have never been someone to pursue a stranger from the internet.
earlier this year, i became friends with someone on a video game.
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I once was that JW baptized boy, we were in our first college year... VERY intense relationship, lasted 3 years, I'm not with that girl now, she didn't had the "patience" for waiting for me to change, by the end she started to put on "deadlines", because prior to this we broke up for good and told our parents that we were not seeing each other, we couldn't hold ourselves and started dating again in secret... It was a very confusing and stressing time, she wanted me to stand against my parents and religion just to date in public like everyone else, and I don't blame her for wanting that.
Now I'm happily living with my girlfriend, we have been together for 5 years, my ex had an important role in my life and in getting out of the JWs... We have a saying in spanish, "nadie sabe para quien trabaja" (something like: "nobody know who you are really working for"), all the struggle we went through with my ex girlfriend made our relationship something damaged... And at the end I decided to try and date another "worldly" girl... With me mentally out and my JW parents divorced everything went different... But all the experience I had before helped me becoming a little more "normal" human being, as I was "born in" and had to get used to celebrating birthdays and all the stuff...
My story could have ended well with my ex girlfriend but in the end this kind of relationship is time and soul consuming...
From my experience, he will try to fit what he wants with you with his "faith", the time he realizes that can't be done, he will need to choose: leave either you or the religion, and maybe try to avoid to make the choice, it took me couple of years and the divorce of my parents to get the change to break mentally free of the JW
You are dealing with deep deep deep indoctrination, that have taught him that almost everything in this world is utterly evil... I suffered and made suffer A LOT trying to make things work ... Anywhow... I regret nothing...
Feel free to write to me if you need anything :)
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Have a friend who only speaks Spanish and want him/her to learn TTATT? www.verdadtj.com
by ILoveTTATT2 inif you have a friend who only speaks spanish, or they speak english but spanish is their preferred language, i am pleased to tell you that there is a spanish translation of jwfacts in progress.
so far, these are the completely translated articles:asociación de la watchtower con las naciones unidas - un ngo associationcelebración de los cumpleaños - birthdayslas transfusiones de sangre - bloodpredicción fallida de 1975 - 1975¿por qué está mal el ser un testigo de jehová?
- what's wrong with being a jw?escándalos de la watchtower - watchtower scandalsexpulsión y rechazo - disfellowshippingfolleto general acerca de la watchtower - pdf - general pdf about wtvideo - crecer como testigo de jehová - growing up a jw¿debería estar jehová en el nuevo testamento?
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Hey I'm a native spanish speaker :) let me know if I can help somehow...
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Scientific, Credible Discovery - Earthquakes are set to increase in 2018
by ILoveTTATT2 init has already been published and presented in a geology conference:it has been discovered that the earth´s rotation slows down a few milliseconds every so often, and when it slows down, about 5 years later there is a 5-year period where the frequency of large earthquakes around magnitude 7 or greater increases about 20-30%.so according to scientists, in 2018, around the tropical areas, we should expect around 20 major earthquakes, compared to the 15 average on a normal year.jw´s are likely to jump on this as "evidence" of the time of the end, and will probably be misquoted in a watchtower publication sometime soon.here are some news organizations covering the story:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/18/2018-set-to-be-year-of-big-earthquakeshttps://qz.com/1133304/as-earths-rotation-slows-2018-could-see-a-spike-in-large-earthquakes/.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/881536/earthquake-prediction-mexico-richter-scale-ring-of-firehttps://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4946729/earthquake-increase-earth-rotation-roger-bilham-tropical-region-2018/.
etc etc...here is the scientific paper (which i can´t read but if someone has access to the pdf, could you please share)?http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2017gl074934/epdf?referrer_access_token=vbjkmgywttzofhkv3apupu4keas67k9qmdwultwmo8osvaslebfxhkk77yb6sfsjhcerrw6swpzkusqjvujli_iu4gpw3lhc8e988dzdvec-5e-nim3hd0bi_0wog1sqonpw4hesqbrwop_lp7uqignbyksopgnvatka48pyb2lonanvz5ehpaiaha2fika5y95lacwwxr1brsy2kk1m282ispv2uju5qsssy2kdzun57jytp1h56-wbice9ov6ipd93rnykjxybd3ykm7bjpa%3d%3dhere is the presentation to the geological society of america:.
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Mandrake
Damn! I just survived the 2010 8.8 earthquake in a 7th floor... And now you are telling me that next year will bring a lot shaking... well it's nice To read this in one of the most seismics countries in the world (chile) while living in a 26st floor
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A WTF Moment While In the WTS
by Searching inhas anyone else had a moment, while still within the organization (and before learning ttatt) that caused them to stop and go, "this is kind of messed up.".
for instance, back i believe in the early 2000's, i was attending a dc with my family.
it was announced at the beginning of the convention that there was going to be a special announcement at the end, so for everyone to please try to remain until the very end of the meeting.
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@slimboyfat
in Chile we were charged for literature until 2001-2002, I remember
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Death of a last Grandparent
by ScottyRex instill read this forum from time to time, and a long time member originally since early 2000's.
recently lost my last surviving grandparent, my great and wonderful nan.
what a flood of emotions that released!
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Try to keep her memory alive, that may help you in time
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I'm coming back to the forum after 10 months, and new challenges...
by Mandrake ini haven't been here for about 10 months and just looked over some topics to update myself, well i came back for a very particular reason... my family was, father, mother, sister and i... the split up (4 years ago), only my father remained jw, my sister left but lives with him, and i've been living by myselft over the last months sharing an apartment with my girlfriend (worldly) an his brother (worldly) (we are a "modern family" hahahaha).... so the relation with my father have been in many different phases the last 4 years, having in mind that he cheated my mom with her best friend (woman) within the congregation an married her just few months ago... so today it's my birthday and i called dad and told him that i had a great time anyway and that to be "even more pagan" i set up my christmas tree today.... he had never questioned me for dating and living with my current girfriend nor tried to "bring me back to the congregation", but he replied to me: "hey, talking about being a pagan, i'm not confortable with things now because i want us to como closer together again and do more things like having lunch or whathever and your are now df, can you talk to the elders and take back the letter you sent them da-ing so we can share more?".
i don't know what to do, i really mean what i wrote in my d.a.
letter, i needed to vent what i think of the borg now, i'm no way taking it back, those are like my luther's theses ... i can't believe my father divorced my mother on no biblical ground, continued dating her best jw friend, and 3 years later they got married and are a happy respectable "christian" couple... and now he suddendly is not confortable with me because i sent a letter to the elders telling them i no longer believed the same shit they do... my sister simply stopped attending meetings and dated worldly boys, celebrate xmas, birthdays and stuff, but with me is different just because i have a clearer idea of who i really am and i'm trying to live by that.. i thinks this whole thing is unfair, he is totally blackmailing me, it's been years to get to this friendly level with my father, and now he is adding this awful pressure.
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Thanks for your Views :)
Yes, I don't think one can't take back and a letter, and I'm not coming back to meetings and stuff, 99.9% of people from the past I encounter in town are avoiding me, so whatever... I'm not sure if they announced me as no longer JW... I don't know my status, because when I handed out my da letter it was in my ex Congo, my parents changed me without my knowledge...
I would give dad a big, I'm not willing to stablish a relationship with someone who is putting a man made religion before family's... But I still need some money he sends me, I will be moving wisely on this topic... Oh I wish to soon earn enough money to be 100% independent.
I talked to my mom and she is totally scandalised about it (she also left the JWs but didn't DA herself)
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I'm coming back to the forum after 10 months, and new challenges...
by Mandrake ini haven't been here for about 10 months and just looked over some topics to update myself, well i came back for a very particular reason... my family was, father, mother, sister and i... the split up (4 years ago), only my father remained jw, my sister left but lives with him, and i've been living by myselft over the last months sharing an apartment with my girlfriend (worldly) an his brother (worldly) (we are a "modern family" hahahaha).... so the relation with my father have been in many different phases the last 4 years, having in mind that he cheated my mom with her best friend (woman) within the congregation an married her just few months ago... so today it's my birthday and i called dad and told him that i had a great time anyway and that to be "even more pagan" i set up my christmas tree today.... he had never questioned me for dating and living with my current girfriend nor tried to "bring me back to the congregation", but he replied to me: "hey, talking about being a pagan, i'm not confortable with things now because i want us to como closer together again and do more things like having lunch or whathever and your are now df, can you talk to the elders and take back the letter you sent them da-ing so we can share more?".
i don't know what to do, i really mean what i wrote in my d.a.
letter, i needed to vent what i think of the borg now, i'm no way taking it back, those are like my luther's theses ... i can't believe my father divorced my mother on no biblical ground, continued dating her best jw friend, and 3 years later they got married and are a happy respectable "christian" couple... and now he suddendly is not confortable with me because i sent a letter to the elders telling them i no longer believed the same shit they do... my sister simply stopped attending meetings and dated worldly boys, celebrate xmas, birthdays and stuff, but with me is different just because i have a clearer idea of who i really am and i'm trying to live by that.. i thinks this whole thing is unfair, he is totally blackmailing me, it's been years to get to this friendly level with my father, and now he is adding this awful pressure.
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I haven't been here for about 10 months and just looked over some topics to update myself, well I came back for a very particular reason... My family was, father, mother, sister and I... The split up (4 years ago), only my father remained JW, my sister left but lives with him, and I've been living by myselft over the last months sharing an apartment with my girlfriend (worldly) an his brother (worldly) (we are a "modern family" hahahaha)...
So the relation with my father have been in many different phases the last 4 years, having in mind that he cheated my mom with her best friend (woman) within the congregation an married her just few months ago... So today it's my birthday and I called dad and told him that I had a great time anyway and that to be "even more pagan" I set up my Christmas tree today...
He had never questioned me for dating and living with my current girfriend nor tried to "bring me back to the congregation", but he replied to me: "Hey, talking about being a pagan, I'm not confortable with things now because I want us to como closer together again and do more things like having lunch or whathever and your are now DF, can you talk to the elders and take back the letter you sent them DA-ing so we can share more?"
I don't know what to do, I really mean what I wrote in my D.A. letter, I needed to vent what I think of the borg now, I'm no way taking it back, those are like my Luther's Theses ... I can't believe my father divorced my mother on no biblical ground, continued dating her best JW friend, and 3 years later they got married and are a happy respectable "christian" couple... And now he suddendly is not confortable with me because I sent a letter to the elders telling them I no longer believed the same shit they do... My sister simply stopped attending meetings and dated worldly boys, celebrate xmas, birthdays and stuff, but with me is different just because I have a clearer idea of WHO I REALLY AM and I'm trying to live by that.
I thinks this whole thing is unfair, he is totally blackmailing me, It's been years to get to this friendly level with my father, and now he is adding this awful pressure. Let's hope that my grand parents, uncles and cousins (all of 'em non-JW) help me to make him see clearly that he is FAR from being a model JW, and he's bashing me for not being one, and being HONEST....
I think the only way to have both parts "happy" is try to un-do m baptism... I was 10 then, NO ONE can make a for-life decision like this at that age.
I'm really upset by all these and may the WT burn like hell, they are serial family destroyers!!!
THANKS FOR READING FELLAS :)
