Posts by Ajax

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PIMO elder

by Reservations in

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friends

i’m reservations, pimo elder.

i’m in no position to leave the organisation, maybe some people will see that as weak or whatever, but we have to all go down our own path in life.. i would like to be able to wake people up in my congregation, how do you think best to do this?

any ideas?.

Ajax

Reservations-

I was an elder for a few years - long enough to get a glimpse of what a scam the WT Society runs and long enough to see zero evidence of a divine being, his plan, or anything remotely resembling love ,compassion or justice behind the curtain of secret information that separates the sheep from their shepherds.

I left cold turkey (never to return) and '..in good standing.'. Nothing happened as I had done nothing wrong.

If I could do it all again (the exiting part) I would do so by a document like this:

On this day _______-____ 2021, I_____________ have exercised my legal right to Freedom of/from Religion as a basic Human Right guaranteed to all citizens by our countries' Constitution.

Henceforth, I repudiate all forms of "ecclesiastic authority" being administered to my now personal and private life.

Announcement of my name and religious status within congregations of which I am not a member, will result in litigation for Human Rights violation.

Witness______________ ______-___ 2021

As former elders (who realize the extent to which sentient individuals and entire families are damaged by this cults predation upon a mentally captive flock) - we should now champion the documented exercise of Human Rights as a legally defensible way to pre-empt further abuses of those who chose to leave.

It's simple, costs nothing and the effect (freedom) is immediate as at signing.

Interference with cherished Constitutional rights could lead local elders immediately liable to litigation, possibly to massive class actions if the interference is promoted by WT headquarters.

There a many more than just JWs who suffer as captives of ideology and don't understand that a solution exists

I'd appreciate your comments.

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What products have you bought that exceed your expectations?

by skeeter1 in

well?.

Ajax

Hi Skeeter-

Virtiually everything made now is made in China and it is all CRAP - all of it. Good brand names that our fathers turned us onto are now produced in China, and they are now CRAP too. Brand name means nothing anymore. GM cars are full of bearings made in China and they are CRAP - afriend of mine bought a new 2009 Equinox and by late 2011 he was replacing (very expensive) wheel bearing assemblies for the THIRD time.

Having said that, I have had 3 items that gave remarkable service under exceptionally hard conditions-

-an automatic washing machine made by Simplicity US/Canadian, served our family of 7 for 18 years without a breakdown, sent to the dump still working

- an electric cordless t-fal 1.7litre kettle (made in Italy), boiled thousands of gallons of hot water over it's 21 year lifespan. The heating element and electronics were made in Europe by a corporation mamed STRIX- look for that name in water heating appliances (others are junk)

- Red Wing boots made in USA are wonderful durable boots, properly made to be resoled when the time comes. Nothing else goes on my old hooves.

We have now sold out quality to such an extent we have now, probably the very first generation that will have absolutely no idea of what a quality manufactured item looks or feels like. Nothing made today will ever be passed down nor maintain it's intrinsic value - its all junk.

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New forum 'parousia' is upon us! (software version)

by Simon in

the time has nearly come to switch over to the new forum software.

of course it's not completely finished yet (and never will be) but i think it's good enough to go live with and probably already better than the current one.

i'll give you a quick overview of what to expect and post more detail about the changeover process later.. cloud platform.

Ajax

Way to go Simon

I am a luddite so I really value your years of hard work and devotion to such a great site.

Your work will forever be appreciated by all of us who have benefited from being here.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Thanks!

by Lightgrowsbrighter in

jw
friends

thanks to all of the friends here at jwn who commented and encouraged me on my 1st and 2nd post.

it was pointed out that my 1st post was on page 5 of the recent elders thread and that i should properly introduce myself with a new thread.

the lightgrowsbrighter name is somewhat of play on words.

Ajax

Mr. Monroe-

Now they will wait quietly 'til they can 'finish you off' with a DF or DA. No one just walks away.

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The Watchtower Writers Blame the Rank-and-File For Failed Prophecy, Why so Evil the Writers/

by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker in

who is to blame jehovahs witnesses and the bible students believing the end was coming in 1914?

ive been reading lots of older magazines and they are so different from todays watchtower!

the current writers from the organization blame everyone except themselves for failed expectations, failed prophecy, "financial ruin and dependance on the goverment "old age social security and medicaid" on their rank-and-file members.

Ajax

Wow adcmShirley-

You're not 'just another pair of great legs' are you ?

That was a well researched, logically explained, forcefully delivered, fact based, education on Watchtower Hypocrisy!

We're all going to mark you as GOOD on all points, and look forward to your next spilling of WT beans. Thank you..

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Campaign to Israel

by humanperson in

i have been wanting to introduce myself but i don't know where to begin.

my husband and i are enjoying our third guilt-free weekend of our lives (both born-in, almost 30).

he has been out mentally for the last year and a half but patiently waited for me to come around.

Ajax

JWs in Israel..hahaha

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Freedom of Relgion has been taken away.

by Jeannette in

when a person is disfellowshiped by a religion just because he or she doesn't believe it all is very serious.

some disfellowshiped ones have even taken their own lives because they have been made to feel so bad.

it's down in black and white that parents and friends are supposed to shun them, shunning is acting like someone is dead.

Ajax

Jeannette -

I would guess that WT has had virtually nothing to say about Freedom of Religion as they would rightly fear a knowlege of it spreading thru the 'fightened sheep class'.

Can someone (looking at Blondie) do a search to see what's been printed?

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Freedom of Relgion has been taken away.

by Jeannette in

when a person is disfellowshiped by a religion just because he or she doesn't believe it all is very serious.

some disfellowshiped ones have even taken their own lives because they have been made to feel so bad.

it's down in black and white that parents and friends are supposed to shun them, shunning is acting like someone is dead.

Ajax

Morpheus -

You said-

''i hate the shunning practice ...., but I cannot see it as denial of freedom of religion.''

If one remains a consenter Jdub you get whatever hate they hand out, if you reject their authority, you are free as when you were born.

Their freedom of religious rights does not extend to those who do not consent to it.

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Freedom of Relgion has been taken away.

by Jeannette in

when a person is disfellowshiped by a religion just because he or she doesn't believe it all is very serious.

some disfellowshiped ones have even taken their own lives because they have been made to feel so bad.

it's down in black and white that parents and friends are supposed to shun them, shunning is acting like someone is dead.

Ajax

One eyed joe-

Religion only has power over those who consent to that power - read it again -

Religion only has power over those who consent to that power.

You and I consented to their authority when we were baptised - they had authority to DF or DA us because we were to stupid and ignorant to REJECT their authority before that happened. We deserved what we got , not because we did wrong , but because we lacked the courage to do what was right and REJECT hypocrisy.

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Freedom of Relgion has been taken away.

by Jeannette in

when a person is disfellowshiped by a religion just because he or she doesn't believe it all is very serious.

some disfellowshiped ones have even taken their own lives because they have been made to feel so bad.

it's down in black and white that parents and friends are supposed to shun them, shunning is acting like someone is dead.

Ajax

Democratic, secular governments can neither promote nor curtail religious belief .

Civil courts cannotrule on interpretation, nor the truthfulness of any religions scripture, doctrines or internal practices (including 'judicial' proceedings)

Do the learned men and women of law feel that ecclesial law is superior to moder secular law? - just the opposite.

In full awareness that religious texts and teaching contains anciet myth, scientific ignorance and is founation of truly ridiculous claims and beliefs. democracies give it a free pass simply because it is cultural, popular and often harmonious with their wider civil and social agendas.

Religion is not supported by, but rather tolerated by modern,secular governments

Individuals are born as free persons, and must consent to come under ecclesial law - hence the cults singl minded goal of baptism.

We were baptised in ignorance but can become free through application of secular law- human rights laws for example.