Billys idea is good,,,
take them on face to face, cart to cart, lol
mana11
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I am going to pioneer after the holidays!
by snakeface inyes, you heard right.. as you know, most christian organizations publish and distribute little tracts with their gospel message.
well they also make some that expose the lies of the wt, and explain how it is a cult.
even if people are not interested in the "gospel message" in these tracts, the tracts do a good job exposing the wt as a cult.. now, those of you who are now agnostic or athiests or just non-religious, please keep reading, to understand what i plan to do.... i am expecting to receive $$ for christmas.
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Should I attend Kingdom Hall meetings to discreetly "preach"?
by CrytoJesus inchristians, should i attend kingdom hall meetings to discreetly "preach" to jws about the real jesus and the lies of the watchtower?.
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i plan to go undercover and plant seeds into them.. .
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mana11
to do this you would need to attend many meetings and be silent, respectful of al lthings.
when you first arrive tell them you want to learn the truth.
there will be many that will offer to assist you and they will arrange a bible study.
do that for 6 months.
slowly they will accept you.
during that process, ASK questions,,,
if you dont get answers then ask for another person to study with you.
that way you can go through several study conductors and another will hapily take you over as it is a power thing that they want to have the glory to bring a new one into the truth.
you will have to restrain yourself from preaching to them...
best you can do is target the ones sutdying with you and do not mention jesus or being saved..
keep sincere and respectful and just ask a LOT of pointed questions util clear answers are given...
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Origin of Black Skin - JW.org Noah Movie
by Bloody Hotdogs! ini've never seen this discussed here, so thought i'd bring it up:.
as far as i can figure, jehovah's witnesses no longer teach that black skin is the result of a curse from god.
instead, they seem to teach that canaan was already dark skinned when his father, ham, brought the curse of servitude upon their family.
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mana11
Of course science has provided us a clue to actual origins of Human Development Surprising how few people today are ignorant to these details:
Not the biblical Eve
Owing to its figurative reference to the first woman in the Biblical Book of Genesis, the Mitochondrial Eve theory initially met with enthusiastic endorsement from some young earth creationists, who viewed the theory as a validation of the biblical creation story. Some even went so far as to claim that the Mitochondrial Eve theory disproved evolution. [ 37 ] [ 38 ] [ 39 ] However, the theory does not suggest any relation between biblical Eve and Mitochondrial Eve because Mitochondrial Eve:
- is not a fixed individual
- had a mother
- was not the only woman of her time, and
- Y-chromosomal Adam is unlikely to have been her sexual partner, or indeed to have been contemporaneous to her.
estimates of the age of the last common mitochondrial ancestor continue to be refined. A recent estimate (March 2013) from the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology shows that Mitochondrial Eve lived about 160,000 years ago (within the reserved estimate of the original research) and also that the non-African humans were separated from Africans about 95,000 years ago. [ 50 ]
What would you rather believe?, Scientific Evidence or Biblical Fairy Tales
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After all, JWs were RIGHT!
by abiather in1) science and technology appeared as a savior to mankind, yet the overall result points to the opposite direction.. http://aeon.co/magazine/science/why-has-human-progress-ground-to-a-halt/.
2) john kerry warns of catastrophe if climate change is not tackled.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/environment/article4295230.ece (times, saturday 13, 2014).
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JWs may have gone wrong in some dates and silly details. But their core teaching remains not only UNCHALLENGED and UNCHANGEABLE
Lol, You miss the point.
God is truth. God cannot Lie, thus jehovahs appointed and anointed ones must be pure and holy to fit the logic behind the core teachings.
Charles Taze Russel was not holy, he had a mistress and screwed the house girl it seems. He was divorced by his wife.
His appointed successors to take over when he died were kicked out on their butts by a man seeking power. have you checked the record of these events?.
Early Dates given were taken from other religons ideas and simply add to.
Additional dates were arrived at via Russels Pagan beliefs of Pryamid measurements.
What core teachings could you possibly excuse as unchanable since all the teachings of the Organisation you know continually see saw back and forth.
Now you are ruled by an elite group that display pinky rings as a status symbol of whom you worship.
WAKE UP you are in dream land
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JW Flash Mob
by Listener ina flash mob is defined as a large public gathering at which people perform an unusual or seemingly random act and then disperse.. jws are now in on the act and were doing this in bath on unsuspecting convention delegates during their tours after the convention.
they did this on at least three seperate occassions.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hmrqr-k4hq.
here's another one, not so public though.
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mana11
Now thats where Apostates should be holding up banners!
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ALERT: NEW LAWSUIT settlement - $13 MILLION
by Watchtower-Free inhttp://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/135m-awarded-to-bible-teacher-gonzalo-campos-alleged-abuse-victim-jose-lopez-281031832.html.
(published thursday, oct 30, 2014).
thursday, oct 30, 2014 updated at 11:58 pm pdt.
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Why would they stupidly continue to hold such documents?.
If they know they are sitting on a time bomb any logical person would hit the delete button?.
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Your most memorable Kingdom Hall meeting disruptions!
by easyreader1970 ini remember about twenty years ago some teenagers were caught fornicating in one of the additional schools.
the schools were downstairs, essentially separated from the rest of the kh.
they weren't just happened upon, though.
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Brother died 2 rows down, he was asleep during the talk but didnt wake up.
Brother Attacking another brother in foyer just minutes before he was made a MS....
Elder taking troubled sister to the private room, caught with her panties down as others walked in to clean
I walked in to the second school to prepare it, a sister was bra & panties / naked changing, as the students were seconds away.
Guy disfellowshiped walk out slammed the door and broke the front door glass.
visitor came and wouldnt enter the front door, said that her friendly spirit on her shoulder said there was 2 angles with sords that wouldnt let her enter with her spirit.... Geez....
pioneer wife sister conforting another wifes husband in back room because he was depressed, apparently they comforted each other all the time like a return visit, an anti depressant sadness love fest. one day they got serious in the back room turning the lights out, and the husband and wife got involved too. 4 some in the hall, i dont think they were even reproved.
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What Was Your Body of Elders Like?
by minimus inwere they pretty much a good group of men?
we're they jerks?.
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Elders Wives children
1; dishonest Lair Subject & nice none
2; Proud arrogant SOB Screwed the single bros Early Abortion and other left truth
3; Nice guy helpful family obediant wife elder, MS, MS Wife, Arrogant and proud with it
4; LOVED women - wanted to control them complete obey - no sex NONE - but was the main ones giving advise on family life
5; beat his wife brusies visible at times NONE
6; money making developer - GOD to all Wealth dripping off her body NONE
7; Blind Control freak of others - Boss GOD completly controled Daughters, all screwed every guy they could in cong
8; Dreamer - no brainer yes man both hubby and wife on anti depressants daughter wild and free
this is an honest opinion in reflection
All are imperfect, but of course they think they are not.
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How did your family react when you made it known that you did not want to be a JW anymore?
by Yondaime inplease share your experiences..
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mana11
TY for your thoughts,,, yes this thread helped me to realise others are in the same situation, it is why i shared also.
My feelings go out to all whom feel as i do, it sucks!...
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How did your family react when you made it known that you did not want to be a JW anymore?
by Yondaime inplease share your experiences..
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mana11
I had a great relationship with my father and mother growing up inside the truth.
When i got married, elders tried to subdue my strenght in the truth, i started to question events, and started to recall the greedy gossiping lairs and power hungry people that always tried to bring my family down.
It always bothered me why people in an organisation of love were jealous of my family and its spiritual strength.
I got a fantastic job that took me around the world to very remote places, and my wife became distant with long time spans between visits. We divorced....
After 40 years i have only this year told my parents the truth about the truth. It was a relief to me as it was bothering me greatly . . . But we are now no longer talking.
So I am SAD, I am feeling Lonely, my family which i talked to is now gone!. I have been told that if my parents die i should ot think of attendig the funeral.
Now i am not sure what to do, focus is on helping others to keep my mind from depression while i find another way to make some money. Maybe i should try to find a companion.
Currently LOSS is all i feel.... Loss of people that i Love
I feel NO regret for knowing the TATT, it has set me Free, but at a price.
SAD :(
