Posts by mana11

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THE REALITY OF REFUSING BLOOD - as it happened

by Bloody Hotdogs! in

over the past couple years i have watched three young jw woman give up thier lives rather than accept blood.

the last was a new mother in her late 20s.

this is her story, as it unfolded on facebook:.

mana11

When you are seriously sick you tend to grasp at anything that will help.

unfortunatley many doctors are arrogant gods in their own right whom wil not listen to others for advice.

Seeking answers from other facilities is ALWAYS wise and a second or third opinion is worth the effort.

But the HLC is having an arrogance far exceeding any doctor. They claim to have the answers beyod a doctors reach.

Unqualified men appointed into a role of direction, no medical training, only information sheets shared between all the HLC's.

It remids me of Miracle Wheat.....

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I am going to pioneer after the holidays!

by snakeface in

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friends

yes, you heard right.. as you know, most christian organizations publish and distribute little tracts with their gospel message.

well they also make some that expose the lies of the wt, and explain how it is a cult.

even if people are not interested in the "gospel message" in these tracts, the tracts do a good job exposing the wt as a cult.. now, those of you who are now agnostic or athiests or just non-religious, please keep reading, to understand what i plan to do.... i am expecting to receive $$ for christmas.

mana11

Billys idea is good,,,

take them on face to face, cart to cart, lol

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Should I attend Kingdom Hall meetings to discreetly "preach"?

by CrytoJesus in

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friends

christians, should i attend kingdom hall meetings to discreetly "preach" to jws about the real jesus and the lies of the watchtower?.

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i plan to go undercover and plant seeds into them.. .

mana11

to do this you would need to attend many meetings and be silent, respectful of al lthings.

when you first arrive tell them you want to learn the truth.

there will be many that will offer to assist you and they will arrange a bible study.

do that for 6 months.

slowly they will accept you.

during that process, ASK questions,,,

if you dont get answers then ask for another person to study with you.

that way you can go through several study conductors and another will hapily take you over as it is a power thing that they want to have the glory to bring a new one into the truth.

you will have to restrain yourself from preaching to them...

best you can do is target the ones sutdying with you and do not mention jesus or being saved..

keep sincere and respectful and just ask a LOT of pointed questions util clear answers are given...

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Origin of Black Skin - JW.org Noah Movie

by Bloody Hotdogs! in

i've never seen this discussed here, so thought i'd bring it up:.

as far as i can figure, jehovah's witnesses no longer teach that black skin is the result of a curse from god.

instead, they seem to teach that canaan was already dark skinned when his father, ham, brought the curse of servitude upon their family.

mana11

Of course science has provided us a clue to actual origins of Human Development Surprising how few people today are ignorant to these details:

Early diversification.PNG

Not the biblical Eve

Owing to its figurative reference to the first woman in the Biblical Book of Genesis, the Mitochondrial Eve theory initially met with enthusiastic endorsement from some young earth creationists, who viewed the theory as a validation of the biblical creation story. Some even went so far as to claim that the Mitochondrial Eve theory disproved evolution. [ 37 ] [ 38 ] [ 39 ] However, the theory does not suggest any relation between biblical Eve and Mitochondrial Eve because Mitochondrial Eve:

is not a fixed individual
had a mother
was not the only woman of her time, and
Y-chromosomal Adam is unlikely to have been her sexual partner, or indeed to have been contemporaneous to her.

estimates of the age of the last common mitochondrial ancestor continue to be refined. A recent estimate (March 2013) from the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology shows that Mitochondrial Eve lived about 160,000 years ago (within the reserved estimate of the original research) and also that the non-African humans were separated from Africans about 95,000 years ago. [ 50 ]

What would you rather believe?, Scientific Evidence or Biblical Fairy Tales

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve

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After all, JWs were RIGHT!

by abiather in

1) science and technology appeared as a savior to mankind, yet the overall result points to the opposite direction.. http://aeon.co/magazine/science/why-has-human-progress-ground-to-a-halt/.

2) john kerry warns of catastrophe if climate change is not tackled.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/environment/article4295230.ece (times, saturday 13, 2014).

mana11

JWs may have gone wrong in some dates and silly details. But their core teaching remains not only UNCHALLENGED and UNCHANGEABLE

Lol, You miss the point.

God is truth. God cannot Lie, thus jehovahs appointed and anointed ones must be pure and holy to fit the logic behind the core teachings.

Charles Taze Russel was not holy, he had a mistress and screwed the house girl it seems. He was divorced by his wife.

His appointed successors to take over when he died were kicked out on their butts by a man seeking power. have you checked the record of these events?.

Early Dates given were taken from other religons ideas and simply add to.

Additional dates were arrived at via Russels Pagan beliefs of Pryamid measurements.

What core teachings could you possibly excuse as unchanable since all the teachings of the Organisation you know continually see saw back and forth.

Now you are ruled by an elite group that display pinky rings as a status symbol of whom you worship.

WAKE UP you are in dream land

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JW Flash Mob

by Listener in

a flash mob is defined as a large public gathering at which people perform an unusual or seemingly random act and then disperse.. jws are now in on the act and were doing this in bath on unsuspecting convention delegates during their tours after the convention.

they did this on at least three seperate occassions.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hmrqr-k4hq.

here's another one, not so public though.

mana11

Now thats where Apostates should be holding up banners!

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ALERT: NEW LAWSUIT settlement - $13 MILLION

by Watchtower-Free in

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/135m-awarded-to-bible-teacher-gonzalo-campos-alleged-abuse-victim-jose-lopez-281031832.html.

(published thursday, oct 30, 2014).

thursday, oct 30, 2014 updated at 11:58 pm pdt.

mana11

Why would they stupidly continue to hold such documents?.

If they know they are sitting on a time bomb any logical person would hit the delete button?.

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Your most memorable Kingdom Hall meeting disruptions!

by easyreader1970 in

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friends

i remember about twenty years ago some teenagers were caught fornicating in one of the additional schools.

the schools were downstairs, essentially separated from the rest of the kh.

they weren't just happened upon, though.

mana11

Brother died 2 rows down, he was asleep during the talk but didnt wake up.

Brother Attacking another brother in foyer just minutes before he was made a MS....

Elder taking troubled sister to the private room, caught with her panties down as others walked in to clean

I walked in to the second school to prepare it, a sister was bra & panties / naked changing, as the students were seconds away.

Guy disfellowshiped walk out slammed the door and broke the front door glass.

visitor came and wouldnt enter the front door, said that her friendly spirit on her shoulder said there was 2 angles with sords that wouldnt let her enter with her spirit.... Geez....

pioneer wife sister conforting another wifes husband in back room because he was depressed, apparently they comforted each other all the time like a return visit, an anti depressant sadness love fest. one day they got serious in the back room turning the lights out, and the husband and wife got involved too. 4 some in the hall, i dont think they were even reproved.

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What Was Your Body of Elders Like?

by minimus in

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friends

were they pretty much a good group of men?

we're they jerks?.

mana11

Elders Wives children

1; dishonest Lair Subject & nice none

2; Proud arrogant SOB Screwed the single bros Early Abortion and other left truth

3; Nice guy helpful family obediant wife elder, MS, MS Wife, Arrogant and proud with it

4; LOVED women - wanted to control them complete obey - no sex NONE - but was the main ones giving advise on family life

5; beat his wife brusies visible at times NONE

6; money making developer - GOD to all Wealth dripping off her body NONE

7; Blind Control freak of others - Boss GOD completly controled Daughters, all screwed every guy they could in cong

8; Dreamer - no brainer yes man both hubby and wife on anti depressants daughter wild and free

this is an honest opinion in reflection

All are imperfect, but of course they think they are not.

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How did your family react when you made it known that you did not want to be a JW anymore?

by Yondaime in

please share your experiences..

mana11

TY for your thoughts,,, yes this thread helped me to realise others are in the same situation, it is why i shared also.

My feelings go out to all whom feel as i do, it sucks!...