I don't think there will be an awakening.
Most info on TTATT is in english ... there are so many jw's that do not speak english.
plus, there are so many (english speakers and not) who just refuse to read/listen to anything that criticize the org.
the internet is the archive for civilization.. watchtower cannot hide it's history.. are we seeing the beginning of a mass exodus out of her?.
I don't think there will be an awakening.
Most info on TTATT is in english ... there are so many jw's that do not speak english.
plus, there are so many (english speakers and not) who just refuse to read/listen to anything that criticize the org.
i was just pondering the other day, is it more likely that a man will leave a religion, or a woman?
is there a way to know if the men on the site outnumber the women or vice versa as to who found out ttat first and left.. im going to suggest men.
basically because men in general, do not like to be told what to do.
with all the negativity here i was wondering if i am the only one here that's a witness.
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the topic pretty much says everything..
@ introvert 2
I would love to hear a talk like that!
having recently had an "awakening" - not from reading awake .... i realize i can not preach doctrines i do not believe anymore .
but i do not want the elders to start following my every move, because i also have plans to check other christian denominations.. so i am thinking, should i chat for an hour or two with an old visit and report the hours, should i tell the elders i have some doubts and i do not want to preach for now or should i just stop reporting and avoid the elders attempts to talk to me?
what do you think is the best sollution to get away with this?
Thank you so much everyone for the advice, it is deeply appreciated!
There are so many things I am seeing now, and sometimes I feel like telling them the real truth ... but I know it is better to keep it silent for now.
I'll try to do my best to fade quietly for now... Your support and advice is of so much help.
having recently had an "awakening" - not from reading awake .... i realize i can not preach doctrines i do not believe anymore .
but i do not want the elders to start following my every move, because i also have plans to check other christian denominations.. so i am thinking, should i chat for an hour or two with an old visit and report the hours, should i tell the elders i have some doubts and i do not want to preach for now or should i just stop reporting and avoid the elders attempts to talk to me?
what do you think is the best sollution to get away with this?
Faye Dunaway, I do not have family, nor trye friends here (maybe one). But almost all my aquintances are jw's.
I did all my holidays/travels in the last 5 years with jw's.
I think I barely know 2 people from outside in the town where I live.
I am not sure I can go through the emotional torment of being so isolated and shutt off by so many people right now.
Plus ... I think I want to drop a line now and then about what the Bible really says about some issues. I need time to study (the Bible this time, not the publications) and to be clear myself on some doctrines.
Right now I am clear that partaking at commemoration is not just for a class of people, they have a sort of hidden doctrine that they do not speak in very many publications (I found just 2 quotes by now) but this false doctrine is reflected in the fact that only annointed ones are partaking at comemoration: they say that Jesus is not the mediator between God and all humankind but only between God and the anointed ones!!!
If someone have told me this while I studied I would not have joined the organization.
anointed in greek is "christos" so they pretend to be "christos" and mediators between Jesus and other people ...
having recently had an "awakening" - not from reading awake .... i realize i can not preach doctrines i do not believe anymore .
but i do not want the elders to start following my every move, because i also have plans to check other christian denominations.. so i am thinking, should i chat for an hour or two with an old visit and report the hours, should i tell the elders i have some doubts and i do not want to preach for now or should i just stop reporting and avoid the elders attempts to talk to me?
what do you think is the best sollution to get away with this?
Having recently had an "awakening" - not from reading awake ...
I realize I can not preach doctrines I do not believe anymore
But I do not want the elders to start following my every move, because I also have plans to check other christian denominations.
So I am thinking, should I chat for an hour or two with an old visit and report the hours, should I tell the elders I have some doubts and I do not want to preach for now or should I just stop reporting and avoid the elders attempts to talk to me?
What do you think is the best sollution to get away with this? In a "smoothly" way ...
And if there are people with responsibility here, is becoming inactive very alarming to them?
Thank you for the input
with all the negativity here i was wondering if i am the only one here that's a witness.
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the topic pretty much says everything..
Does anyone read the context of the verses about the faithful and discreet slave?
Jesus asks a question
Describes two possible courses of action -those of a f&d slave and those of a wicked slave
Jesus says at the second coming it will be proved if the slave was faithful or wicked, or it will be proven who was wicked and who was faithful
with all the negativity here i was wondering if i am the only one here that's a witness.
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the topic pretty much says everything..
@a watcher
the problem is, it looks like the GB is not learning anything from their mistakes.
It looks to me as they are more proud lately, not more humble ...
with all the negativity here i was wondering if i am the only one here that's a witness.
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the topic pretty much says everything..
I am a witness, too.
only recently had a wake up call, I'll wait a while, see how I can handle still being a witness but not believing their main doctrines / rules: 1914, 144000 anointed, not every believer partaking at commemoration, reporting hours, shunning people, not celebrating b-days etc.
the difficulty of finding a marriage mate is well known for sisters.
but i would say it's hard for brothers also.
i was talking to a jw last night.
The problem in the org is that those who want to get married are not looking to find true love.
They are looking for "materialistic" things: position in organization, physical appearance, material posessions, earning potential, etc.
Does chosing a partner based on those things has anything to do with spirituality?
How do you preach about the love of God, if you go home and wake up every day next to a person who you do not truly love ...