one of the jw high-ups questioned by the australian royal commission (i think it was o'brien) stated that those who had disassociated (as opposed to being disfellowshipped) do not have to undergo a lengthy reinstatement procedure of proving repentance over many months, but can simply ask to be reinstated immediately.
is this true?
has anyone heard of this ever happening?.
One brother also moaned about DA'd brothers or sisters walking straight back to the WTS, saying something along the lines of "she can do what she wants for a number of years, while we ['the faithful'] have to suffer being JWs".
If the JW's would do any thinking they'd realize that the easiest way to get to paradise is for people who never learned the "truth" because their doctrine states the "unjust" will be resurrected in paradise just like all the hard working jw's.
taken from http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/showcharity/registerofcharities/charitywithpartb.aspx?registeredcharitynumber=1077961&subsidiarynumber=0.
i wonder what exactly the uk charity commission is looking into.
just financial data or also practices of the watch tower?
These are for 2013:
Question 5 - The charity's income and spending What were your charity's most significant activities during the year and how much did it spend on them?
Charitable activities £ 000s:
Production of literature and magazines. 10,812
Promoting Christian missionary work. 1,403
Donating to further religious education overseas. 19,004
As you can see, they donated 19.000.000 punds to "further religious education overseas"- I guess these are money donated to the watchtower in US
taken from http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/showcharity/registerofcharities/charitywithpartb.aspx?registeredcharitynumber=1077961&subsidiarynumber=0.
i wonder what exactly the uk charity commission is looking into.
just financial data or also practices of the watch tower?
I wonder what exactly the uk Charity Commission is looking into. Just financial data or also practices of the watch tower?
Because if they will look into practices, I think sending some complains to the uk commission about their shunning practices maybe would make them change things in the future.
I think the authorities that approve charities in countries need to be informed about the practice of "shunning" in JW land.
Normally a charity should not harm people.
If they do, they should not call themselves "a charity".
I am thinking if a human rights commission looking into this practice of shunning could maybe change things.
It is not normal for an org. who pretends to be a charity to do this to people. Not in today's world.
Especially that there are people who get baptized as young as 9 -10. If they change their mind when they grow up, they have to face this cruel treatment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=72&v=9vvqxf9uwu0.
@Petragliph
Thank you for posting the videos. It just makes me sick. And I can not believe what on organization I got myself into ...
I wish I had researched the internet better, 12 -15 years ago when I decided to join the religion.
I think we should start blogs and webpages and put our stories out there, make the truth about this org. public, so that other people know what they are getting themselves into before they get baptised. The more websites with the truth about who the wt really is, the better!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=72&v=9vvqxf9uwu0.
@ Xanthippe
And let's not forget that "they are well equipped" for the three tasks ...
People who think like that make me sick.
tradition within christianity has long been that any time the phrases holy spirit, holy ghost, or spirit of godare used in the bible (especially in the new testament), it always refers to the mysterious third divine person of the trinity, who is fully god, co-equal to the father and son, yet somehow distinct.. i want to present a simplified alternative view: let the context determine the meaning!.
(one thing to keep in mind is that the meaning of the bible words used for spirit basically is unseen force or invisible presence.).
the holy spirit as the mind and personality of god.
Fusion Theist
love the research you do.
Have you considered a research of the holy spirit in relation to christians - being baptised with holy spirit, having the help of the spirit, being anointed with it, the spirit dwelling in you.
I am very interested in this theme
it seems like there has not been as much discussion here about the rc testimony on day 6 (4th august) as there has been about previous days.
i was quite surprised by rodney spinks' testimony, which was a marked contrast to the bungling and inarticulate testimony of the elders that appeared before him.
spinks seemed reasonably co-operative, and a lot more willing to concede points than anyone else has been.
He lied about the branch having any authority to change procedures.
It looked to me like he was just trying to protect the gov. body.
And lie.
A false display of humility. - always saying sorry or I apologize, but when asked why he uses the word "land" instead of "country" he asked back the prosecutor "how many lands are there in the world"
What was he trying to prove? That the prosecutor does not even know the number of "lands" but jw's have authority over people of "lands"all over the world? or what? was his pride getting out of him after having had to answer so many questions?
i'm reading some documents from the royal commission and i don't get it, why so much concern for the accused and his reputation???
i'm starting to think maybe some gb members have things like this in their past, because a normal human being would not take the side of a sexual predator over a child....united states branche x e c u t i v e o f f i c e sto watch tower societyaustraliagsc/as january 21, 1999 no.
176sit is understood that if the law requires elders to report cases of child abuse, they should complywith the law and do so.
Strong Haiku
I do not agree. God is concerned with us all, that is why He sent Jesus, to save us!
