Posts by paradisebeauty

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Can Anyone Help Me?

by sneekyapostate in

i'm wanting to set up a youtube channel exposing what goes on at meetings and the hypocrisy that goes on.

trouble is i'm not exactly welcome at the meetings if you know what i mean!!!

i was wondering if anyone out there in uk or us could let me have a khconf number and pin so i can record parts of the meeting and expose them on the tube.

Insights from the field ministry ....

by paradisebeauty in

last week i was invited by a sister to go in the field ministry with her.

i did, because she is one of the 2 people who contacted me since i am not attending the meetings.

and i thought it would be a good opportunity to tell her about some of the things i researched.

paradisebeauty

Last week I was invited by a sister to go in the field ministry with her. I did, because she is one of the 2 people who contacted me since I am not attending the meetings.

And I thought it would be a good opportunity to tell her about some of the things I researched.

While she was preaching I stood aside and watched people's reaction. A person she spoke with was a theologian, the other one was clearly a member of a reformed church. They did not raise any issues, just listened to the sister's small "talk", smiled, took the magazine, said thank you and that was it.

I wonder if people are taking them seriously any more ... or maybe they know by now where jw's are coming from and see there is no point in having an indeep religious conversation ... or maybe they just don't know how to defent their own faith, themselves ...

Maybe it is just my new perspective, but I felt like it was a waste of time and that people are looking at them like preaching a cult, not the word of God, which is kind of true.

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JWs are just weird people, I think their going insane!

by ReligionOfHatred in

there's a interesting situation emerging where i live and i want to share it all with you because its proof i think jehovah has pulled his holy spirit away.

when elders think they can steal from the government and pretend to be holy, than jehovah god has left us!.

paradisebeauty

Hi ReligionofHatred, and wellcome to this forum.

What situation are you talking about?

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What did early Christians believe about the dead?

by fulltimestudent in

as witnesses we were truly convinced that we knew the truth about the dead.

they were truly dead, and we often quoted ecclesiastes 9:4-6, our favourite proof text on that topic, to prove the point.

that text reads (just in case you've already forgotten it - smile), (from the niv):.

paradisebeauty

I don't believe Jesus was recreated. I believe he was transformed into a new creation, an immortal man.

But I also do not believe there is a personal soul that lives separately.

This book I gave as a reference above explains better. It is written by a university professor of old greek and hebrew.

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Crazyguy is going batshit crazy a Rant

by Crazyguy in

yesterday some jw's came over to my house and were even being nice to me, most of the time if they do come by an elder or ms may say something but the others will not, its even hard for them to say just hello (how pathetic).

( they also do this behind my back as if i don't know).

i now realize by not being their i've handed my kids right over to them!.

paradisebeauty

an idea you could point to the kids, just read it on the forum:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/448570001/exactly-why-jws-christian#/447680001

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EXACTLY Why JW's Are NOT Christian

by Perry in

a lot of people, ex-jws, believers and unbelievers alike, think that jw's are just a somewhat kooky brand of christianity.

is it possible to "try and follow jesus" and not be christian?

what exactly makes someone a christian?

paradisebeauty

agree!

you will not find one phrase in wt publications that say Jesus is mediator between God and "other sheeep"

They do not believe this.

A jw from "other sheep" in their view hope has exactly the same hope as a Buddhist or Hindu that lived years ago and never heard of Yah or Jesus.

They should read more carefully Isaiah 65:20 - fleshly people in the 1000 years Kingdom will grow old and die.

The one and only christian hope is inheriting the Kingdom and living in it as immortal beings, a new creation, like Jesus after resurrection.

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why did the sacrafice have to be so BRUTAL

by Tater-T in

why did the sacrifice have to be so brutal... i mean what value does that add to the equation of justice.couldn't he jesus have came down and just been slaughtered like a regular sacrifice without the brutal torture.why is justice served by brutalityanyone anyone bueller... lolnow you know i don't like to type for hours but this is always bothered me

paradisebeauty

It was Satan who maneuvered the things this way. Similar to what happened to Job. God withdrew at that point, He allowed that Jesus would be killed but it was not Him who directed the torture.

Satan was hoping Jesus would become unfaithful.

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Crazyguy is going batshit crazy a Rant

by Crazyguy in

yesterday some jw's came over to my house and were even being nice to me, most of the time if they do come by an elder or ms may say something but the others will not, its even hard for them to say just hello (how pathetic).

( they also do this behind my back as if i don't know).

i now realize by not being their i've handed my kids right over to them!.

paradisebeauty

I believe you need to take a different approach.

Try to show the kids Bible verses that the jw's interpret wrong. The jw's have a few doctrines according to the Bible and some doctrines that are totally against the Bible.

A person who studies the Bible will never believe you if you say "God does not exist" but will think twice if you say "look what the Bible says here".

Even if you do not believe in God anymore, do some research on this to help your kids.

here are some resourses:

http://www.biblicaltruthseekers.co.uk/

the site above even has a section dedicated to jw's - and where they are wrong

Another resourse:

http://focusonthekingdom.org/

Contact me if you need help.

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What did early Christians believe about the dead?

by fulltimestudent in

as witnesses we were truly convinced that we knew the truth about the dead.

they were truly dead, and we often quoted ecclesiastes 9:4-6, our favourite proof text on that topic, to prove the point.

that text reads (just in case you've already forgotten it - smile), (from the niv):.

paradisebeauty

The jw's are wrong on many doctrine, but I do not think they are wrong on the "life after death" separated from the body doctrine.

For reference, you might want to check other scholars opinion on this, too:

http://www.focusonthekingdom.org/articles/what%20happens%20when%20we%20die.pdf

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Pioneering

by Sabin in

i`ve heard many pioneers claim that they are deserving of material things because they are the ones who make all the sacrifices.

one claimed that jehovah had made sure that she got absolutely everything she wanted right down to shelfs so she could put up pic`s of her family because, to quote "we are so deserving, we`ve made the sacrifice".

mind you this is the same sister who told me "it`s harder for me having my son d.fs than for a mother loosing her child in death".

paradisebeauty

"we are so deserving, we`ve made the sacrifice"

this sounds so much like:

The Pharisee,standing by himself, prayed[a] thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’ 13 But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God,be merciful to me, a sinner!’ 14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”