Posts by OrphanCrow

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I'm 16 and I might be pregnant In a JW household

by NYsweet16 in

okay, i don't even know where to start.

i'm 16, i live in a strict jw household and i know if i am pregnant (which is a big possibility) ..i know i'm doomed to a life of misery.

not because of my baby but because of my family and the isolation and judgement from the congregation.

OrphanCrow

NYSweet16, you are a minor so you should be able to receive community support from social service agencies. Is there a kids-help line where you are?

Please, talk to people who can help you with looking after both your mental and physical health. Agencies outside of the Jehovah's Witnesses. I know there are places that can help young women in your situation. Back in 1973, I was 15 and pregnant. I had a baby boy at 16 years of age. I lived in a home for unwed mothers for the last part of my pregnancy.

Good luck. And a big hug.

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Geoffrey Jackson - Royal Commission Live Hearing Now!

by LostinJapan in

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https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

OrphanCrow

Sauerkraut: Why did they let him hide behind the bible so much? I'm somewhat disappointed it turns out to be a bible discussion.

Probably because the WTS claims that the policies of the JWs are scripturally based.

I thought that the Commission experts handled the Biblical debates very well. Jackson's ONLY defense and source of reference was the silver sword and both Stewart and McClelland didn't shy away from pointing out Jackson's inconsistencies for his twisted Bible interpretations. I don't think that Jackson did very well in his role as a "guardian of doctrine".

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Geoffrey Jackson - Royal Commission Live Hearing Now!

by LostinJapan in

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https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

OrphanCrow

mgmelkat: I'd like to see where they have apologised and for what??

Oh. That was in a letter once - they said "We are so sorry for all those people who died because we siad they couldn't have a blood trnasfusion. We are sorry for all those babies and children who have died."

Oh...they never really said that, did they? I must apologize. I am sorry...my mistake.

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GeeJay at the RC: highlights, paraphrases and translations.

by sparrowdown in

q: is there anyone that has the permanent role of coordinator or chairman?.

geejay: no, we rotate yearly...... (translaton) we are all sparticus.. geejay: we are a faith driven org, we are not a group of lawyers, being overly concerned with legal matters..... fave quotes .

on establishing headship principle 1cor 14: 33-35, 1 cor 11:3. geejay:...... that's talking about women not excitedly jumping up arguing with others..... geejay: ......our literature has said it, and we agree!.

OrphanCrow

Lol! Did you see Justice McClelland's face palm?

Someplace around the :20 mark in part two. Poor McClelland, It looked like it was just too much for him!

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Governing Body, Geoffrey Jackson - Child Sexual Abuse Whitin Jehovah's Witnesses, Not Apostate Lies

by C0ntr013r in

a little taste for everyone who could not watch the hearing live .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvypugzk59o&feature=youtu.be.

the rest is coming soon!.

OrphanCrow

Dumplin: Who else thinks Jackson might be Alfred Hitchcock's illegitimate son?

Aack! Alfred Hitchcock could be Jackson's daddy? So what about Jackson's "brother", Pope Francis?

Ah...the sanctity of the family...

Whoze yr daddy?

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GeeJay at the RC: highlights, paraphrases and translations.

by sparrowdown in

q: is there anyone that has the permanent role of coordinator or chairman?.

geejay: no, we rotate yearly...... (translaton) we are all sparticus.. geejay: we are a faith driven org, we are not a group of lawyers, being overly concerned with legal matters..... fave quotes .

on establishing headship principle 1cor 14: 33-35, 1 cor 11:3. geejay:...... that's talking about women not excitedly jumping up arguing with others..... geejay: ......our literature has said it, and we agree!.

OrphanCrow

Sparrow: ...The bethel elves do, whoever they are.

Well, they might have their "little helpers" but I think it is time for some of my crow friends to hear about what this JW pope had to say about women and children.

I have a list and I am checking it twice...gonna see who is naughty or nice...I have some work to do. The crows are going to hear about this.

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GeeJay at the RC: highlights, paraphrases and translations.

by sparrowdown in

q: is there anyone that has the permanent role of coordinator or chairman?.

geejay: no, we rotate yearly...... (translaton) we are all sparticus.. geejay: we are a faith driven org, we are not a group of lawyers, being overly concerned with legal matters..... fave quotes .

on establishing headship principle 1cor 14: 33-35, 1 cor 11:3. geejay:...... that's talking about women not excitedly jumping up arguing with others..... geejay: ......our literature has said it, and we agree!.

OrphanCrow

"We are a spiritual group of men who act as guardians of our doctrine."

"Thank you for that question!!"

"God's spirit motivates us."

"Thank you for that question!!"

"We are not an organization of lawyers." ...haha! No shit, Sherlock. (or was that "lizards"?...I am pretty sure he said "lawyers")

"The judges at the gates of Israel were only men..."

"Thank you for that question!!"

"We are not like other churches where they just go to church and then don't talk to each other..." !!!!????

"Thank you for that question!!! Your Honor..."

"I hope to be able to ask Jesus himself that question sometime in the future!"

Oh my...I better stop for now...

But, Sparrow, I must say, thank you for asking that question. :)

*to add -

I forgot two of my favorites.

"We don't run a spy network"

"We don't run a police state."

"Thank you for that question..."

Ya dummy, Jackson...nobody asked you that question...

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Geoffrey Jackson - Royal Commission Live Hearing Now!

by LostinJapan in

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https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

OrphanCrow

Jackson's apology was over the top. Ugh.

The best response to that display is this:

"Show me the money."

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Did you hear Stewart use the bible to prove an incredibly good point to Jackson!!

by umbertoecho in

i thought at the end, stewart made brilliant use of scripture (about establishing fornication or other sexually immoral practises) how, in such a clever way stewart used scripture to point out that some one could basically stake out someone's house to see if a person stayed over night be they homosexual or heterosexual............that on the basis of a sort of stakeout, the two witness rule was ambivalent yet it prevailed.

due to sufficient suspicion.. and therefore why did this "suspicion" not prevail with child sexual abuse.

OrphanCrow

James: "I have met people who have walked away and there is no problem"

Well, he is half right.

The problem often only occurs once that bad person wants to return. Then they have to face a Judicial Hearing to get back in...and they could be disfellowshipped at that point. And have to sit in the back row for a year or so...whatever those oh so wise elders decide.

And, I too, know people who have faced "no problems". My father for one. And my older brother. Both inactive - faded. But never a problem.

My mother was disfellowshipped for "unChristian like behavior". She worked in a bar. Two elders went in the bar and watched her at work. My sister was put on probation by the elders for a year after she was raped.

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Geoffrey Jackson - Royal Commission Live Hearing Now!

by LostinJapan in

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https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

OrphanCrow

Yup, Sparrow, you right!

And I got sick of hearing about his sick and ailing father. FFS. Ya got the resurrection hope, doncha?

Suck it up, Buttercup.*

Death is a part of life. The victims are living breathing people who are suffering, too.

*I don't mean you, Sparrow! I am talking about Pope Geoff!