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  Did Geoffrey Jackson Commit Perjury, or Just "Spiritual Warfare"?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  mr. jackson was pressured by angus stewart to answer if the org condoned corporal punishment, to which he openly stated that the org does not condone corporal punishment for j.w.

  children.

  this "fact" has never been revealed in the org's literature, in fact, this article which was published under geoffrey jackson's supervision, by definition demonstrates the org's approval of corporal punishment for j.w.

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  SS... "However, not all children need physical punishment......"

  So, by inference, some/most do need physical punishment?
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  Court seizes over one million Jehovah's Witnesses brochures brought into Russia

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://red.theworldnewsmedia.org/index.php/en/forum-home-page/jehovah-s-witnesses/93-court-seizes-over-one-million-jehovah-s-witnesses-brochures-brought-into-russia

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  Saint: ...if you love freedom of speech you should reconsider your position.

  No, I don't think so.

  My position is that I oppose institutions that take away the freedom of speech and the freedom of thought in the way that the Watchtower Society does.

  I oppose institutions that masquerade as a religion when they are only a business.

  I oppose deceit. The JW religion is the epitome of deceit.
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  Court seizes over one million Jehovah's Witnesses brochures brought into Russia

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://red.theworldnewsmedia.org/index.php/en/forum-home-page/jehovah-s-witnesses/93-court-seizes-over-one-million-jehovah-s-witnesses-brochures-brought-into-russia

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  Brokeback: The Watchtower literature is rightly banned in Russia because of it's extremism and severe criticism of other religions. So I'm glad they took it,and hope they put it to good use in a incinerator. No Watchtower propaganda for distribution big deal let them cry religious persecution all they want their literature is rightly banned for the garbage it contains.

  I agree.

  In October 2000, several Russian experts presented their reports to a Russian court. The Russian experts had done a comprehensive examination of the Jehovah's Witness literature.

  We, the undersigned, VP Belyanin, MM Gromyko, DA Leontiev, SA Nebolsin designated definition Golovinsky Intermunicipal Court on March 12, 1999 for a comprehensive examination of the case 2-452/99 (presentation Attorney of the Northern Administrative District of Moscow on the elimination and prohibition of a religious community of Jehovah's Witnesses), being aware of the court of criminal liability under Article 307 of the Criminal Code, were of this opinion, set out below on 16 sheets.

  The submitted report can be found on this thread here:

  Jehovahs Witness Ban Upheld

  The reasons the literature is seen as unsuitable are for far more than just "because of it's extremism and severe criticism of other religions". The Russian experts did a detailed and extensive analysis of the text and concluded that it contained harmful material that had the potential to pyschologically damage those who read it.

  The Russian expert conclusion:

  In the literature and the documents of the witnesses Of [iegovy] are contained the signs: A) kindling the religious dissension in the form of the undermining of respect and formation of hostility for other religions, b) encroachment of such rights and freedoms of citizens as right to the life and the medical service and right to leisure, and also to the freedom to manage its time.

  They also gave a detailed response to this question:

  Are the texts of the organization of the witnesses Of [iegovy] the account, which usually is used in the religion.

  And concluded:

  the subjected to the study texts of the organization of the witnesses Of [iegovy] in a number of essential signs differ from the account, which usually is used in the [nesektanskom] religion (in the traditional religions).

  The Russians have taken the examination of the JW literature seriously and have not banned it lightly. The Russian experts who analyzed the text came with these credentials:

  [V].[P].[Belyanin], the doctor of philological sciences, the professor of the department of psycholinguistics HAZE, the professor of the center of international formation MGU [im]. [M].[V].[Lomonosova], the corresponding member of the academy of humanitarian studies, the academician of Moscow psychotherapeutic academy, the member of the international association of applied psycholinguistics, the member of the board of juridical psychologists;
  [M].[M].[Gromyko], the doctor of historical sciences, professor, the main scientific worker of the institute of ethnology and anthropology RAN [Russian Academy of Science]
  [D].[A].[Leontev], the doctor of psychological sciences, the docent of the department of psychology of MGU [im]. [M].[V].[Lomonosova], the substitute the chairman of the council of the Moscow department of Russian psychological society;
  [S].[A].[Nebolsin], the candidate of philological sciences, that manages by the sector of artistic interactions of the division of theory and methodology of history of literature and [iskusstvoznaniya], the chairman of scientific council for complex problem “Russia, the West and the east” of the institute of world literature RAN [Russian Academy of Science], the member of the administration of the union of the writers of Russia.

  I think that Dr. Monica Applewhite would have been laughed out of a Russia court. They would have told her to go back to Kindergarten and get an education.

  
  
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  Brother who works on JW Broadcasting gave a 20 minute talk, said something big is coming next month.

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  via /r/exjw.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc7vhu8l88k.

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  jw_potato: OrphanCrow, the way he was saying everything makes it seem like it specifically has to do with the website/broadcasting.

  Huh.

  Okay then. I will go with choice number 2.

  Armageddon is coming soon.
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  Court seizes over one million Jehovah's Witnesses brochures brought into Russia

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://red.theworldnewsmedia.org/index.php/en/forum-home-page/jehovah-s-witnesses/93-court-seizes-over-one-million-jehovah-s-witnesses-brochures-brought-into-russia

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  Mephis: Thing is this is Russia. Where minority groups are targeted for unpleasant behaviour. Where the state turns a blind eye to actions by those who support it. Where censorship and restrictive controls are becoming the norm once more. Where speaking out against the ruling oligarchy is increasingly uncommon and increasingly dangerous. It's not some glorious crusade to show the JWs are wrong about neutrality, it's another case of the Russian state being heavyhanded, authoritarian and deeply unpleasant at its heart. The JW persecution complex really doesn't need feeding by it actually happening eg by the police turning a blind eye to mob attacks etc.

  Yes. This is Russia.

  And Russians have very long memories. This is evident in Putin's honoring of past political heroes such as Pyotr Stolypin and the raising to sainthood of the last Tsar and his family. What runs deep, very deep, in the Russian memory is the role of religious sects on the ruling power of Russia - Rasputin's ghost will always hover in that dark and bloody history and will never disappear.

  Russia has a long history with cults and their influence on political events is an integral part of their past. In fact, there was an Apocalyptic cult that committed mass suicide just outside the edge of Moscow on the eve of the Tsar's abdication.

  I know that this is "old" history to some, but in a Russian's mind, it isn't.

  Fringe extremist religions will never get far in Russia when someone like Putin is in power. He is deeply rooted in the past.

  
  

  
  
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  Brother who works on JW Broadcasting gave a 20 minute talk, said something big is coming next month.

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  via /r/exjw.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc7vhu8l88k.

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  jw_potato: Just a note: this talk was in Canada.

  Ah...the Canadian Branch changing somehow, maybe closing. Or some big restructuring on the top end of the Canadian Branch.
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  Africa for the Africans, Asia for the Asians, White Countries for Everyone!

  by seahorse321 in

  1. social
  2. current

  asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

  everybody says there is this race problem.

  everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to assimilate, i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

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  truthseeker: If one wants to experience the true white life. I recommend living anywhere north of 60 degrees latitude. Everything is white white white.

  Oh my. I didn't expect to laugh so hard this early in the morning.

  You don't really mean that statement, do you? It's a joke, right? Please tell me that it is...you meant the snow, didn't you?

  ...and about the Inuit:

  Their just interested in survival and pigging out on food anyway.

  ???!!!??? holy crap...
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  Africa for the Africans, Asia for the Asians, White Countries for Everyone!

  by seahorse321 in

  1. social
  2. current

  asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

  everybody says there is this race problem.

  everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to assimilate, i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

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  Holy crap.
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  Canadian branch getting rid of their trucks and drivers

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a recent letter to the elders outlined the new arrangement for delivering literature to the congregations.

  the canadian branch will be downsizing by eliminating drivers and trucks and utilizing commercial carriers to bring the boxes of monthly literature .

  more outsourcing and more lay offs.. the funny thing about it is that they want to have the literature delivered to various private homes of the rank and file rather than have the literature delivered to the kingdom hall.

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  tiki: They probably get lower rates of delivered to private homes...the angle is to go the cheapest route.

  Most shipping companies have lower rates for a commercial designation. Having a parcel delivered to your home generally costs more, not less.

  Having the Literature delivered to a personal address rather than the Kingdom Hall will have another reason for it. I dunno...maybe the WTS plans on not being a "resident" corporation in Canada anymore. Maybe the WTS plans on eliminating the Canadian Branch Office.
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  "We don't run a spy network"

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the wts has been keeping case files on child sex abuse for over 60 years that we know of.

  *damn...my whole post disappeared.... .

  the wts has been keeping case files on child sex abuse for over 60 years that we know of.

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  done4good: Just a straw man argument used to distract and to deflect accountability away from themselves on the core issue.

  Jackson slipped up in a big way by saying "we don't run a police state" and "we don't run a spy network".

  The number one rule for a witness that is being examined is this: do not give more information than you are asked for. Do not supply the prosecution with the "accusation" before they do. Jackson was the one who gave this information sans prompting. Bad move on Jackson's part and a prosecutor's dream - to have the witness state the crime themselves without having to accuse them of anything.