OrphanCrow

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  Love is like God.

  by The Rebel in

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  neither, can be proven only to the believer can they exist.

  we could therefore say that a persons feelings on god and love are simply chemical reactions produced by the brain.

  however what i find interesting is that if a certain part of a persons brain gets damaged their personalities and emotions can radically change.. the rebel..

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  Rebel: I want to establish that without conclusive scientific proof on what love or God is...

  So you want to ignore the comment that cofty made.

  Is there any scientific evidence that love ...exist?

  cofty:
  Yes. The chemicals that result in feelings of affection and loyalty are well known as are the precise genes that code for them.
  There are 2 species of vole that have very different family arrangements. In one the male plays no part in raising the offspring while in the other the male bonds for life. Scientists can manipulate the genes to cause the opposite behaviour.

  As harsh as you may take it, Rebel, my earlier comment stands. You are chosing to ignore the proof that is given to you. You are only trying to force your opinion on this board and have no interest when others give you the proof that you claim doesn't exist.
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  Love is like God.

  by The Rebel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  neither, can be proven only to the believer can they exist.

  we could therefore say that a persons feelings on god and love are simply chemical reactions produced by the brain.

  however what i find interesting is that if a certain part of a persons brain gets damaged their personalities and emotions can radically change.. the rebel..

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  Rebel: OrphanGrow thank you for your reasoning. To clarify I am at the end of my time on this board. From what I have learnt about the G.B i have decided to disfellowshipping myself.
  This O.P is now to clarify my thinking on the many threads I have read on from athiests and believers. My question therefore is there any scientific evidence that love or God exist?
  If not then I will leave having concluded love and God can only be proven to the believer they exist. And that is not to say they don't exist, it's just then personal choice either way.
  The Rebel.

  Oh. I don't see how you have clarified anything at all.

  So, in other words...you don't care what other people have to offer, you are just going to go ahead and continue thinking the way you always have.

  Well...goodbye.
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  Love is like God.

  by The Rebel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  neither, can be proven only to the believer can they exist.

  we could therefore say that a persons feelings on god and love are simply chemical reactions produced by the brain.

  however what i find interesting is that if a certain part of a persons brain gets damaged their personalities and emotions can radically change.. the rebel..

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  rebel: Love is like God" neither can be proven, only to the believer can they exist.

  That only holds true if you define "love" as an emotion (noun) rather than an action.

  Love can be proven by its actions. If love is a verb, and not a noun, it is easily provable.
  

  Love as an emotion is self-centered. Love as an action is other-centered. Love is acted out in the here and now, by visible human beings.
  

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  Template to dump Special Pioneers

  by avaddohn94 in

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  2. beliefs

  "downsizing" has reached special pioneers.. this is the template mexico is using to get rid of many of its special pioneers.

  see how cold and unloving is the language they use.

  a translation attempt is as follows:.

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  I think it is $imple. It is about money.

  The special pioneers are probably no longer considered to be an allowable expense for religions by the taxman. This has to do with restructuring to fall in line with "religious exemption" tax status. The special pioneers too closely resemble a "workforce" which, of course, the WTS does not want to be responsible for or have to pay labour costs on.

  The new and improved jw..org will emerge with a clergy class, a smattering of missionaries and have the look of all other religions.

  Huh. I wonder when they will open convents for the women.
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  Removed from JW.ORG: Warwick Photo Gallery 3 (January Through April 2015)

  by wifibandit in

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  2. beliefs

  the warwick gallery #1 and gallery #2 are still up.. i have #3 backed up: http://imgur.com/a/klnlg.

  also pulled: .

  wallkill photo gallery 2.

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  cappytan: Feminazi...

  Sigh. And there we go again.

  Someone just HAD to invoke Godwin's Law, didn't they? That sure didn't take long.
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  Removed from JW.ORG: Warwick Photo Gallery 3 (January Through April 2015)

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the warwick gallery #1 and gallery #2 are still up.. i have #3 backed up: http://imgur.com/a/klnlg.

  also pulled: .

  wallkill photo gallery 2.

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  Gentledawn: Yeah, because calling someone out for their bigotry is wrong. In fact, let's flip it over to the person who actually called em out on it - the apostate non-conformist, who doesn't buy the explainerating, bullsh!tting, or 'oops, I was talking numbers, not qualifications'.

  Lol! Would that be me?

  I called out the poster simply because they are so wrong - on many points of their ill informed statement about women on construction sites.

  If there is one thing about women who "work with the boys", it is this: those women are at least as qualitifed as the men, sometimes even more so. You won't find an unqualified woman on a construction site. And, I will tell you this - there are LOTS of unqualified men on construction sites. I know because I have had to babysit them - I have had to supervise more than one "boy" who didn't know how to hold a hammer.

  I am a woman. and I have worked on construction sites for many years, off and on, and I have women friends who are certified, qualified, and who run male crews on construction sites.

  Don't dis women who work construction.
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  Whatever happened to Applewhite's "report"?

  by OrphanCrow in

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  2. child-abuse

  do you remember the wt lawyer trying to get justice mcclelland to accept a new and improved report from the wt "expert", monica applewhite?.

  the wt lawyer even managed to squeeze more time from the commission for applewhite to prepare her report.

  funny thing is, applewhite never submitted that report.. i guess she has been too busy with catholic business...no time for the wt dudes.

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  millie: As our resident forensic detective, what are you finding? Nothing?

  Lol! Nope, Millie...nada from here.

  News of Applewhite is quiet online. The only place I have ran into recent postings about her is on a Catholic forum discussing her poor representation at the Royal Commission. The Catholics thought her credibilty sucked and were concerned how that would impact on the work she does for the Catholic Church.

  I wouldn't doubt that Applewhite will lay low...she should after her poor testimony at the Commission.
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  Whatever happened to Applewhite's "report"?

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  do you remember the wt lawyer trying to get justice mcclelland to accept a new and improved report from the wt "expert", monica applewhite?.

  the wt lawyer even managed to squeeze more time from the commission for applewhite to prepare her report.

  funny thing is, applewhite never submitted that report.. i guess she has been too busy with catholic business...no time for the wt dudes.

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  Heaven: I doubt the ARC will let her off.

  Actually, Heaven, I think that it was the WT lawyer who convinced the Commission to let her re-submit more information. Justice McClelland was not convinced that Applewhite had anything more to offer but the WT lizard wanted to add more "expert" opinion. McClelland gave them two weeks to submit another report and Applewhite didn't make the deadline.
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  Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief

  by SecretSlaveClass in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if a thread has been made about this i apologize.. if anyone has not seen the latest hbo documentary release, "going clear: scientology and the prison of belief" i cannot recommend highly enough that you watch it.

  as the majority of us here are either survivors of or still trapped in a cult ourselves, this documentary will most certainly intrigue you.

  it's the most in-depth and extensively researched documentary on scientology ever and features interviews with ex-scientologists who were right at the top until they fell foul of their megalomaniacal, paranoid chairman of the board, david miscavige.. i have read some of l. ron hubbard's books out of curiosity and outright dismissed them as utter nonsense.

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  I haven't had the opportunity to watch Going Clear yet. It is on my list of "to watch".

  But, I did watch The Master not long ago. It is a movie that is somewhat based on L. Ron Hubbard and the start of Scientology. I had a difficult time watching it through all at once - it took me three sittings. I found the movie to be quite disturbing.

  
  

  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1560747/
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  Whatever happened to Applewhite's "report"?

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  do you remember the wt lawyer trying to get justice mcclelland to accept a new and improved report from the wt "expert", monica applewhite?.

  the wt lawyer even managed to squeeze more time from the commission for applewhite to prepare her report.

  funny thing is, applewhite never submitted that report.. i guess she has been too busy with catholic business...no time for the wt dudes.

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  OrphanCrow

  Do you remember the WT lawyer trying to get Justice McClelland to accept a new and improved report from the WT "expert", Monica Applewhite?

  The WT lawyer even managed to squeeze more time from the Commission for Applewhite to prepare her report. Funny thing is, Applewhite never submitted that report.

  I guess she has been too busy with Catholic business...no time for the WT dudes. Or, maybe she realized that her "expert" credentials were taking a beating and it would be best for her to cut her losses and run.