neither, can be proven only to the believer can they exist.
we could therefore say that a persons feelings on god and love are simply chemical reactions produced by the brain.
however what i find interesting is that if a certain part of a persons brain gets damaged their personalities and emotions can radically change.. the rebel..
Wow. Rebel, you must be a real piece of work to live with. It doesn't matter what someone says, you twist it around so you are blameless. In case you have already forgot...you were the one who said you were leaving first. My goodbye was only a polite response to your statement that you were going.
But, you are right in this case - I am leaving. You remind me too much of assholes I used to be married to.
neither, can be proven only to the believer can they exist.
we could therefore say that a persons feelings on god and love are simply chemical reactions produced by the brain.
however what i find interesting is that if a certain part of a persons brain gets damaged their personalities and emotions can radically change.. the rebel..
Rebel: You see your answer was harsh..
I did not see my answer as harsh. You were the one who labelled it as such.
Can you understand that?
*oh...the edit button strikes again...
neither, can be proven only to the believer can they exist.
we could therefore say that a persons feelings on god and love are simply chemical reactions produced by the brain.
however what i find interesting is that if a certain part of a persons brain gets damaged their personalities and emotions can radically change.. the rebel..
Rebel: OrphanGrow I think your reply was a bit harsh.
Rebel: OrphanCrow I assure you I don't take any of your comments harshly...
So, which is it?
neither, can be proven only to the believer can they exist.
we could therefore say that a persons feelings on god and love are simply chemical reactions produced by the brain.
however what i find interesting is that if a certain part of a persons brain gets damaged their personalities and emotions can radically change.. the rebel..
Rebel: I want to establish that without conclusive scientific proof on what love or God is...
So you want to ignore the comment that cofty made.
Is there any scientific evidence that love ...exist?
cofty:
Yes. The chemicals that result in feelings of affection and loyalty are well known as are the precise genes that code for them.
There are 2 species of vole that have very different family arrangements. In one the male plays no part in raising the offspring while in the other the male bonds for life. Scientists can manipulate the genes to cause the opposite behaviour.
As harsh as you may take it, Rebel, my earlier comment stands. You are chosing to ignore the proof that is given to you. You are only trying to force your opinion on this board and have no interest when others give you the proof that you claim doesn't exist.
neither, can be proven only to the believer can they exist.
we could therefore say that a persons feelings on god and love are simply chemical reactions produced by the brain.
however what i find interesting is that if a certain part of a persons brain gets damaged their personalities and emotions can radically change.. the rebel..
Rebel: OrphanGrow thank you for your reasoning. To clarify I am at the end of my time on this board. From what I have learnt about the G.B i have decided to disfellowshipping myself.
This O.P is now to clarify my thinking on the many threads I have read on from athiests and believers. My question therefore is there any scientific evidence that love or God exist?
If not then I will leave having concluded love and God can only be proven to the believer they exist. And that is not to say they don't exist, it's just then personal choice either way.
The Rebel.
Oh. I don't see how you have clarified anything at all.
So, in other words...you don't care what other people have to offer, you are just going to go ahead and continue thinking the way you always have.
Well...goodbye.
neither, can be proven only to the believer can they exist.
we could therefore say that a persons feelings on god and love are simply chemical reactions produced by the brain.
however what i find interesting is that if a certain part of a persons brain gets damaged their personalities and emotions can radically change.. the rebel..
rebel: Love is like God" neither can be proven, only to the believer can they exist.
That only holds true if you define "love" as an emotion (noun) rather than an action.
Love can be proven by its actions. If love is a verb, and not a noun, it is easily provable.
Love as an emotion is self-centered. Love as an action is other-centered. Love is acted out in the here and now, by visible human beings.
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"downsizing" has reached special pioneers.. this is the template mexico is using to get rid of many of its special pioneers.
see how cold and unloving is the language they use.
a translation attempt is as follows:.
I think it is $imple. It is about money.
The special pioneers are probably no longer considered to be an allowable expense for religions by the taxman. This has to do with restructuring to fall in line with "religious exemption" tax status. The special pioneers too closely resemble a "workforce" which, of course, the WTS does not want to be responsible for or have to pay labour costs on.
The new and improved jw..org will emerge with a clergy class, a smattering of missionaries and have the look of all other religions.
Huh. I wonder when they will open convents for the women.
the warwick gallery #1 and gallery #2 are still up.. i have #3 backed up: http://imgur.com/a/klnlg.
also pulled: .
wallkill photo gallery 2.
cappytan: Feminazi...
Sigh. And there we go again.
Someone just HAD to invoke Godwin's Law, didn't they? That sure didn't take long.
the warwick gallery #1 and gallery #2 are still up.. i have #3 backed up: http://imgur.com/a/klnlg.
also pulled: .
wallkill photo gallery 2.
Gentledawn: Yeah, because calling someone out for their bigotry is wrong. In fact, let's flip it over to the person who actually called em out on it - theapostatenon-conformist, who doesn't buy the explainerating, bullsh!tting, or 'oops, I was talking numbers, not qualifications'.
Lol! Would that be me?
I called out the poster simply because they are so wrong - on many points of their ill informed statement about women on construction sites.
If there is one thing about women who "work with the boys", it is this: those women are at least as qualitifed as the men, sometimes even more so. You won't find an unqualified woman on a construction site. And, I will tell you this - there are LOTS of unqualified men on construction sites. I know because I have had to babysit them - I have had to supervise more than one "boy" who didn't know how to hold a hammer.
I am a woman. and I have worked on construction sites for many years, off and on, and I have women friends who are certified, qualified, and who run male crews on construction sites.
Don't dis women who work construction.
do you remember the wt lawyer trying to get justice mcclelland to accept a new and improved report from the wt "expert", monica applewhite?.
the wt lawyer even managed to squeeze more time from the commission for applewhite to prepare her report.
funny thing is, applewhite never submitted that report.. i guess she has been too busy with catholic business...no time for the wt dudes.
millie: As our resident forensic detective, what are you finding? Nothing?
Lol! Nope, Millie...nada from here.
News of Applewhite is quiet online. The only place I have ran into recent postings about her is on a Catholic forum discussing her poor representation at the Royal Commission. The Catholics thought her credibilty sucked and were concerned how that would impact on the work she does for the Catholic Church.
I wouldn't doubt that Applewhite will lay low...she should after her poor testimony at the Commission.
