Full aricle at link.He told investors that his status as a Jehovah’s Witness meant he was unable to break the law, in an effort to win their trust.
Teesside Crown Court heard how many of the 350 victims were elderly and had been deliberately targeted.
Some had since died with the stress of the County Durham-based fraud having contributed to their ill health, and others had lost homes and life savings.
A third man the Crown said was involved, Anthony Kemp, is currently serving a prison sentence in New Zealand for a separate but similar fraud, but is expected to be extradited back to the UK to stand trial when he is released.
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JW jailed for £8million investment fraud - UK
by OrphanCrow inhttp://m.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/14276665.victims__brainwashed__in___8m_investment_scam/he told investors that his status as a jehovah’s witness meant he was unable to break the law, in an effort to win their trust.. teesside crown court heard how many of the 350 victims were elderly and had been deliberately targeted.some had since died with the stress of the county durham-based fraud having contributed to their ill health, and others had lost homes and life savings.a third man the crown said was involved, anthony kemp, is currently serving a prison sentence in new zealand for a separate but similar fraud, but is expected to be extradited back to the uk to stand trial when he is released.. .
full aricle at link.
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Australia - Elder Jailed Over Sex Abuse
by OrphanCrow inanother one.. https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/30810834/church-elder-is-jailed-over-sex-abuse/.
a jehovah’s witness elder who sexually assaulted two vulnerable teenagers he met through the church was sentenced to three years jail yesterday over the “destructive” abuse.. david frank pople, 68, met the boys through the safety bay congregation of the church and assaulted them between 1989 and 1996.. one of the teens reported the sexual assaults to elders in 1997 but police were not made aware of the abuse until he filed a police report in 2014.pople was forcibly ejected from the church for being “insufficiently repentant” in 1997 and readmitted the following year at his request.. district court judge troy sweeney accepted pople was genuinely remorseful but said he had interfered with his victims’ natural maturing process in a “very destructive way”.“a message must be sent that child abuse is abhorrent and will not be tolerated by any civilised society,” she said.“they were vulnerable because they were young and because you were a church elder and their boss.”.
when pople admitted assaulting one of the boys during a conversation with an elder in the 1990s, he was told a judicial committee would be formed to deal with the issue.the elders spoke to pople in an apparent attempt to determine his level of remorse and later sent a letter to certain members of the congregation explaining in great detail why he had been ejected.. pople was in his 40s when he assaulted the boys at work, on his yacht and in his shoalwater home.he was close friends with the parents of his first victim and had helped the second victim with his bible studies.. defence lawyer nick scerri told the court pople was candid with the leadership of the church and made “very frank admissions” about some aspects of the offending in 1997.he said his client has been living three lives and was “deeply unhappy” when he assaulted the boys.“he had the life of the family man, the father, the husband,” mr scerri said.
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Another one.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/30810834/church-elder-is-jailed-over-sex-abuse/
A Jehovah’s Witness elder who sexually assaulted two vulnerable teenagers he met through the church was sentenced to three years jail yesterday over the “destructive” abuse.
David Frank Pople, 68, met the boys through the Safety Bay congregation of the church and assaulted them between 1989 and 1996.
One of the teens reported the sexual assaults to elders in 1997 but police were not made aware of the abuse until he filed a police report in 2014.
Pople was forcibly ejected from the church for being “insufficiently repentant” in 1997 and readmitted the following year at his request.District Court judge Troy Sweeney accepted Pople was genuinely remorseful but said he had interfered with his victims’ natural maturing process in a “very destructive way”.
“A message must be sent that child abuse is abhorrent and will not be tolerated by any civilised society,” she said.
“They were vulnerable because they were young and because you were a church elder and their boss.”When Pople admitted assaulting one of the boys during a conversation with an elder in the 1990s, he was told a judicial committee would be formed to deal with the issue.
The elders spoke to Pople in an apparent attempt to determine his level of remorse and later sent a letter to certain members of the congregation explaining in great detail why he had been ejected.Pople was in his 40s when he assaulted the boys at work, on his yacht and in his Shoalwater home.
He was close friends with the parents of his first victim and had helped the second victim with his Bible studies.Defence lawyer Nick Scerri told the court Pople was candid with the leadership of the church and made “very frank admissions” about some aspects of the offending in 1997.
He said his client has been living three lives and was “deeply unhappy” when he assaulted the boys.
“He had the life of the family man, the father, the husband,” Mr Scerri said. “ At the same time, he was balancing the religious obligations that he had as a leader in that church.
“And thirdly, he had this secret homosexual sort of latency, I suppose.”Pople pleaded guilty to six sex-related charges as well as breaching his protective bail conditions in 2014.
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QUICK! Questions to ask MARK SANDERSON!!!!!!!
by TeenageInsider inquickly!!.
mark sanderson at a regional assembly.. i will find him and ask him questings.. please quickly leave questions you want me to ask.. i will record and post updates!!!!.
hurry..
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Ask him if Jesus gave his blood so that we all could live.
If he says yes, ask him why JWs can't follow Jesus' example and give blood too.
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JW Teacher Sues School District For Being Fired Over Valentin's Day
by Bangalore inhttp://dailycaller.com/2016/01/25/suit-teacher-sacked-for-not-throwing-valentines-day-party/.
a former public elementary school teacher who is a jehovah’s witness has filed a lawsuit against the suburban detroit school district where she used to work because, she claims, school officials ordered her to organize a classroom valentine’s day party and then sacked her because she refused.. people who belong to the jehovah’s witnesses, a millenarian christian sect, do not celebrate valentine’s day.
thus, the teacher, yvonne lemmons, is suing for religious discrimination, reports michigan live.. the defendant in the lawsuit is the southfield public school district in southfield, mich.. lemmons, 56, says in her lawsuit that she had been a fourth-grade teacher at macarthur university academy, a public magnet school, for 10 years and had faced no issues concerning her religious beliefs prior to the valentine’s day party kerfuffle..
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clambake: Valentines day is purely a hallmark holiday
"Saint Valentine (Latin: Valentinius), officially Saint Valentine of Rome, is a widely recognized third-century Roman saint commemorated on February 14 and associated since the High Middle Ages with a tradition of courtly love."
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QUICK! Questions to ask MARK SANDERSON!!!!!!!
by TeenageInsider inquickly!!.
mark sanderson at a regional assembly.. i will find him and ask him questings.. please quickly leave questions you want me to ask.. i will record and post updates!!!!.
hurry..
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You could ask him if the Australian JWs are still "part of God's organization" because you had heard that the Australian branch had been infiltrated by Satan's demons.
Or you could ask him how old you have to be to be considered for a seat on the Governing Body...cause you would like to apply for a position when you get older.
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"You wouldn't want to bring reproach on Jehovah's name, would you?"
by Esse quam videri inwhat would be your reply?.
my reply: jehovah is big enough to take care of himself.. yours?.
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My reply:
Yes, I do.
"Jehovah" has behaved poorly. His track record is not above reproach.
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Reference for WT article.
by Lostwun inawhile back someone posted a pic of the rank/ order of command within the org.
it started with a picture of earth and god sitting on his throne, then the gb body members sitting at there table, then the elders underneath them and then the r&f and so forth.. no mention of jesus in that photo.
could someone familiar with the article that it came out of provide me with the reference please?.
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The illustration you are thinking of, Lostwun, is in the April 15, 2013 Watchtower.
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/faithful-discreet-slave.php
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The Watchtower Corporation's (JWS) extenuating lies .....Why and for what purpose ?
by Finkelstein inupon researching the historical activity of the wts.
it becomes clear that the head editorial writers of this religious publishing house propagated many formative lies or unproven speculations framed within its own bible theological interpretations.. .
going right back to its earliest inception the head writers of the wts proclaimed that christ has returned and that mankind was going occur a dramatic change through this returning establishment of christ, as prophetically told though bible scripture.. the first year devised by the wts of this return was 1874 and through means of using an obscure measurement of the great pyramid of giza 1914 was to be the year of armageddon.. the 6000 years of mankind's existence was used at that time as well ( early 1900's) to support this supposed code cracking, which was used once again in the late 1960's to create 1975 as another year of significance.
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finkelstein: Religion is bullshit whether its from the mouths of the ancients or the mouths of modern men, particularly those who run and operate their own publishing house, then the bullshit really flies
Finkel, this book might interest you. It was written in 1917 but much of it is still relevant today. (on a side note, Upton was liked by the Golden Age editors and was featured in some of the early magazines - the Golden Age was a pro-Socialist rag)
The Profits of Religion: An Essay in Economic Interpretation by Upton Sinclair.
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JW Teacher Sues School District For Being Fired Over Valentin's Day
by Bangalore inhttp://dailycaller.com/2016/01/25/suit-teacher-sacked-for-not-throwing-valentines-day-party/.
a former public elementary school teacher who is a jehovah’s witness has filed a lawsuit against the suburban detroit school district where she used to work because, she claims, school officials ordered her to organize a classroom valentine’s day party and then sacked her because she refused.. people who belong to the jehovah’s witnesses, a millenarian christian sect, do not celebrate valentine’s day.
thus, the teacher, yvonne lemmons, is suing for religious discrimination, reports michigan live.. the defendant in the lawsuit is the southfield public school district in southfield, mich.. lemmons, 56, says in her lawsuit that she had been a fourth-grade teacher at macarthur university academy, a public magnet school, for 10 years and had faced no issues concerning her religious beliefs prior to the valentine’s day party kerfuffle..
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I am curious as to how this woman managed to teach in a secular school system for 10 years and only now her refusal to participate in holidays has become an issue.
What about all those other holidays besides Valentine's Day? How was her noncelebration of holidays handled in the past? Did her classes just have to opt out of coloring Easter eggs or Xmas trees? Did her classes go for 10 years sans celebrations or activities of any kind related to holidays?
I am with Cofty and Landy on this one. It sounds like a last straw. There seems like there is more to this than what is being presented.
I have an image in my head of all these kids sitting in their classroom on Valentine's Day with nothing to do while the rest of the school celebrated. A whole classroom doing what I was forced to do as a kid - sit and watch while everyone else got to participate and I didn't.
It's a conundrum. On one hand, it is reasonable to expect that a person should not have to violate their religious beliefs in their job, but on the other hand, it seems to be wrong that the students do not have the right to be free from the teacher's religious views.
The teacher's refusal to accomodate the classroom's freedom from her religion becomes a problem. At what point do the children's rights become paramount over her rights?
I am grateful that neither of my children were unlucky enough to draw a JW teacher when they were going to school. I would have lost my mind.
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Trey Bundy: One Year of Reporting JW Child Abuse - Your comments please!
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://watchtowerdocuments.org/trey-bundy-one-year-of-reporting-jw-child-abuse/.
trey bundy: one year of reporting jw child abuse.
it’s been one year since trey bundy first reported the watchtower’s child abuse problems.. twelve months ago the center for investigative reporting (cir) began publishing information about jehovah’s witnesses and their cover-up of child sexual abuse on their website, reveal.
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Thank you for posting this, Barbara. It is your hard work that brought the child abuse issue into the public eye to begin with so that journalists like Trey Bundy could give the coverage.
People like Trey Bundy are invaluable. Too often I have heard the comment that "nobody cares about the JWs" and in reality, the JWs do not come up on most people's radars unless there is media coverage.
It is rare to find a journalist that will put the work and time into doing the indepth investigation that Bundy has.
What Bundy has done is remarkable and I have great admiration for his work.