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  Australia - Elder Jailed Over Sex Abuse

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  another one.. https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/30810834/church-elder-is-jailed-over-sex-abuse/.

  a jehovah’s witness elder who sexually assaulted two vulnerable teenagers he met through the church was sentenced to three years jail yesterday over the “destructive” abuse.. david frank pople, 68, met the boys through the safety bay congregation of the church and assaulted them between 1989 and 1996.. one of the teens reported the sexual assaults to elders in 1997 but police were not made aware of the abuse until he filed a police report in 2014.pople was forcibly ejected from the church for being “insufficiently repentant” in 1997 and readmitted the following year at his request.. district court judge troy sweeney accepted pople was genuinely remorseful but said he had interfered with his victims’ natural maturing process in a “very destructive way”.“a message must be sent that child abuse is abhorrent and will not be tolerated by any civilised society,” she said.“they were vulnerable because they were young and because you were a church elder and their boss.”.

  when pople admitted assaulting one of the boys during a conversation with an elder in the 1990s, he was told a judicial committee would be formed to deal with the issue.the elders spoke to pople in an apparent attempt to determine his level of remorse and later sent a letter to certain members of the congregation explaining in great detail why he had been ejected.. pople was in his 40s when he assaulted the boys at work, on his yacht and in his shoalwater home.he was close friends with the parents of his first victim and had helped the second victim with his bible studies.. defence lawyer nick scerri told the court pople was candid with the leadership of the church and made “very frank admissions” about some aspects of the offending in 1997.he said his client has been living three lives and was “deeply unhappy” when he assaulted the boys.“he had the life of the family man, the father, the husband,” mr scerri said.

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  OrphanCrow

  Datadog: OrphanCrow,
  Send this story to Trey Bundy!

  I didn't even think to do that...

  Okay.

  Done.

  *he likely has an alert on all JW news, but just in case it didn't come up on his radar, I sent it to him.
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  JW jailed for £8million investment fraud - UK

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://m.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/14276665.victims__brainwashed__in___8m_investment_scam/he told investors that his status as a jehovah’s witness meant he was unable to break the law, in an effort to win their trust.. teesside crown court heard how many of the 350 victims were elderly and had been deliberately targeted.some had since died with the stress of the county durham-based fraud having contributed to their ill health, and others had lost homes and life savings.a third man the crown said was involved, anthony kemp, is currently serving a prison sentence in new zealand for a separate but similar fraud, but is expected to be extradited back to the uk to stand trial when he is released.. .

  full aricle at link.

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  Landy: Orphan Crow - are you local to that area?

  No.

  I am a Canadian.

  sbf: When I was in the JWs I used to think there were no bad JWs at all.

  Exactly. It was that idea that set up the JWs investors to be victimized:

  "He told investors that his status as a Jehovah’s Witness meant he was unable to break the law"

  How many times have we heard that "JWs are the most law abiding people around"? This is a myth that is propagated ad nauseum by the WTS. No wonder the JWs who lost their investments believed him.
  
  
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  Australia - Elder Jailed Over Sex Abuse

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  another one.. https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/30810834/church-elder-is-jailed-over-sex-abuse/.

  a jehovah’s witness elder who sexually assaulted two vulnerable teenagers he met through the church was sentenced to three years jail yesterday over the “destructive” abuse.. david frank pople, 68, met the boys through the safety bay congregation of the church and assaulted them between 1989 and 1996.. one of the teens reported the sexual assaults to elders in 1997 but police were not made aware of the abuse until he filed a police report in 2014.pople was forcibly ejected from the church for being “insufficiently repentant” in 1997 and readmitted the following year at his request.. district court judge troy sweeney accepted pople was genuinely remorseful but said he had interfered with his victims’ natural maturing process in a “very destructive way”.“a message must be sent that child abuse is abhorrent and will not be tolerated by any civilised society,” she said.“they were vulnerable because they were young and because you were a church elder and their boss.”.

  when pople admitted assaulting one of the boys during a conversation with an elder in the 1990s, he was told a judicial committee would be formed to deal with the issue.the elders spoke to pople in an apparent attempt to determine his level of remorse and later sent a letter to certain members of the congregation explaining in great detail why he had been ejected.. pople was in his 40s when he assaulted the boys at work, on his yacht and in his shoalwater home.he was close friends with the parents of his first victim and had helped the second victim with his bible studies.. defence lawyer nick scerri told the court pople was candid with the leadership of the church and made “very frank admissions” about some aspects of the offending in 1997.he said his client has been living three lives and was “deeply unhappy” when he assaulted the boys.“he had the life of the family man, the father, the husband,” mr scerri said.

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  This is interesting:

  "The elders spoke to Pople in an apparent attempt to determine his level of remorse and later sent a letter to certain members of the congregation explaining in great detail why he had been ejected."

  Obviously the elders cannot claim "penitent privlege" on this one.

  And why, in this case, was it okay to warn congregants and in other cases the elders keep their mouths shut?
  
  
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  JW jailed for £8million investment fraud - UK

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://m.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/14276665.victims__brainwashed__in___8m_investment_scam/he told investors that his status as a jehovah’s witness meant he was unable to break the law, in an effort to win their trust.. teesside crown court heard how many of the 350 victims were elderly and had been deliberately targeted.some had since died with the stress of the county durham-based fraud having contributed to their ill health, and others had lost homes and life savings.a third man the crown said was involved, anthony kemp, is currently serving a prison sentence in new zealand for a separate but similar fraud, but is expected to be extradited back to the uk to stand trial when he is released.. .

  full aricle at link.

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  http://m.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/14276665.Victims__brainwashed__in___8m_investment_scam/
  

  He told investors that his status as a Jehovah’s Witness meant he was unable to break the law, in an effort to win their trust.

  Teesside Crown Court heard how many of the 350 victims were elderly and had been deliberately targeted.
  Some had since died with the stress of the County Durham-based fraud having contributed to their ill health, and others had lost homes and life savings.
  A third man the Crown said was involved, Anthony Kemp, is currently serving a prison sentence in New Zealand for a separate but similar fraud, but is expected to be extradited back to the UK to stand trial when he is released.

  Full aricle at link.
  
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  Australia - Elder Jailed Over Sex Abuse

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  another one.. https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/30810834/church-elder-is-jailed-over-sex-abuse/.

  a jehovah’s witness elder who sexually assaulted two vulnerable teenagers he met through the church was sentenced to three years jail yesterday over the “destructive” abuse.. david frank pople, 68, met the boys through the safety bay congregation of the church and assaulted them between 1989 and 1996.. one of the teens reported the sexual assaults to elders in 1997 but police were not made aware of the abuse until he filed a police report in 2014.pople was forcibly ejected from the church for being “insufficiently repentant” in 1997 and readmitted the following year at his request.. district court judge troy sweeney accepted pople was genuinely remorseful but said he had interfered with his victims’ natural maturing process in a “very destructive way”.“a message must be sent that child abuse is abhorrent and will not be tolerated by any civilised society,” she said.“they were vulnerable because they were young and because you were a church elder and their boss.”.

  when pople admitted assaulting one of the boys during a conversation with an elder in the 1990s, he was told a judicial committee would be formed to deal with the issue.the elders spoke to pople in an apparent attempt to determine his level of remorse and later sent a letter to certain members of the congregation explaining in great detail why he had been ejected.. pople was in his 40s when he assaulted the boys at work, on his yacht and in his shoalwater home.he was close friends with the parents of his first victim and had helped the second victim with his bible studies.. defence lawyer nick scerri told the court pople was candid with the leadership of the church and made “very frank admissions” about some aspects of the offending in 1997.he said his client has been living three lives and was “deeply unhappy” when he assaulted the boys.“he had the life of the family man, the father, the husband,” mr scerri said.

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  Another one.

  https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/30810834/church-elder-is-jailed-over-sex-abuse/

  A Jehovah’s Witness elder who sexually assaulted two vulnerable teenagers he met through the church was sentenced to three years jail yesterday over the “destructive” abuse.

  David Frank Pople, 68, met the boys through the Safety Bay congregation of the church and assaulted them between 1989 and 1996.

  One of the teens reported the sexual assaults to elders in 1997 but police were not made aware of the abuse until he filed a police report in 2014.
  Pople was forcibly ejected from the church for being “insufficiently repentant” in 1997 and readmitted the following year at his request.

  District Court judge Troy Sweeney accepted Pople was genuinely remorseful but said he had interfered with his victims’ natural maturing process in a “very destructive way”.
  “A message must be sent that child abuse is abhorrent and will not be tolerated by any civilised society,” she said.
  “They were vulnerable because they were young and because you were a church elder and their boss.”

  When Pople admitted assaulting one of the boys during a conversation with an elder in the 1990s, he was told a judicial committee would be formed to deal with the issue.
  The elders spoke to Pople in an apparent attempt to determine his level of remorse and later sent a letter to certain members of the congregation explaining in great detail why he had been ejected.

  Pople was in his 40s when he assaulted the boys at work, on his yacht and in his Shoalwater home.
  He was close friends with the parents of his first victim and had helped the second victim with his Bible studies.

  Defence lawyer Nick Scerri told the court Pople was candid with the leadership of the church and made “very frank admissions” about some aspects of the offending in 1997.
  He said his client has been living three lives and was “deeply unhappy” when he assaulted the boys.
  “He had the life of the family man, the father, the husband,” Mr Scerri said. “ At the same time, he was balancing the religious obligations that he had as a leader in that church.
  “And thirdly, he had this secret homosexual sort of latency, I suppose.”

  Pople pleaded guilty to six sex-related charges as well as breaching his protective bail conditions in 2014.
  He will be eligible for parole after spending 18 months behind bars.
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  QUICK! Questions to ask MARK SANDERSON!!!!!!!

  by TeenageInsider in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  quickly!!.

  mark sanderson at a regional assembly.. i will find him and ask him questings.. please quickly leave questions you want me to ask.. i will record and post updates!!!!.

  hurry..

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  Ask him if Jesus gave his blood so that we all could live.

  If he says yes, ask him why JWs can't follow Jesus' example and give blood too.
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  JW Teacher Sues School District For Being Fired Over Valentin's Day

  by Bangalore in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/25/suit-teacher-sacked-for-not-throwing-valentines-day-party/.

  a former public elementary school teacher who is a jehovah’s witness has filed a lawsuit against the suburban detroit school district where she used to work because, she claims, school officials ordered her to organize a classroom valentine’s day party and then sacked her because she refused.. people who belong to the jehovah’s witnesses, a millenarian christian sect, do not celebrate valentine’s day.

  thus, the teacher, yvonne lemmons, is suing for religious discrimination, reports michigan live.. the defendant in the lawsuit is the southfield public school district in southfield, mich.. lemmons, 56, says in her lawsuit that she had been a fourth-grade teacher at macarthur university academy, a public magnet school, for 10 years and had faced no issues concerning her religious beliefs prior to the valentine’s day party kerfuffle..

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  clambake: Valentines day is purely a hallmark holiday

  "Saint Valentine (Latin: Valentinius), officially Saint Valentine of Rome, is a widely recognized third-century Roman saint commemorated on February 14 and associated since the High Middle Ages with a tradition of courtly love."

  
  
  
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  QUICK! Questions to ask MARK SANDERSON!!!!!!!

  by TeenageInsider in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  quickly!!.

  mark sanderson at a regional assembly.. i will find him and ask him questings.. please quickly leave questions you want me to ask.. i will record and post updates!!!!.

  hurry..

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  You could ask him if the Australian JWs are still "part of God's organization" because you had heard that the Australian branch had been infiltrated by Satan's demons.

  Or you could ask him how old you have to be to be considered for a seat on the Governing Body...cause you would like to apply for a position when you get older.
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  "You wouldn't want to bring reproach on Jehovah's name, would you?"

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what would be your reply?.

  my reply: jehovah is big enough to take care of himself.. yours?.

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  My reply:

  Yes, I do.

  "Jehovah" has behaved poorly. His track record is not above reproach.
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  Reference for WT article.

  by Lostwun in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  awhile back someone posted a pic of the rank/ order of command within the org.

  it started with a picture of earth and god sitting on his throne, then the gb body members sitting at there table, then the elders underneath them and then the r&f and so forth.. no mention of jesus in that photo.

  could someone familiar with the article that it came out of provide me with the reference please?.

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  OrphanCrow

  The illustration you are thinking of, Lostwun, is in the April 15, 2013 Watchtower.

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/faithful-discreet-slave.php