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  God is Real in Principle

  by looter in

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  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  looter: We both just need to remember that some people who believe in God are irrational in their belief and others are rational in their belief.

  Firstly, I would recommend that you learn the art of speaking for yourself and yourself only. "We both just need" is an inappropriate phrase because you simply don't know my needs. You may need to remember that but I don't.

  That aside, I will try to make myself clearer.

  Belief is ALL about the irrational.

  The scientific method does not require belief. It requires an adherence to basic principles that govern the scientific process. If those principles (rules) have been followed, science does not require belief. Science requires rationality.

  Belief requires irrationality. It is the irrational mind that is satisfied emotionally through the process of believing. The brain would like to 'believe' that its belief is based upon rationality...but it simply isn't
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  Russian laywers price

  by sp74bb in

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  some sources in spanish forum points 50 millions us$ as the total amount payed to wt lawyers in russia.. despite this they have not stopped the liquidation of russian branch.

  personnel will be relocated in finland and administration will be covered from poland.. source: http://www.extj.com/showthread.php?27809-noticias-de-rusia&p=508612#post508612.

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  jwdaughter: ...unless it goes on for like a decade and involves BILLIONS of dollars and class actions and crap.

  The WT's court cases in Russia have been going on for decades
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  God is Real in Principle

  by looter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  Looter, I think we are coming from different places when discussing rationality and irrationality.

  I am approaching irrationality as the brain's emotional response as opposed to a logical response. I think of it in terms of rightbrain/leftbrain functioning.

  Belief springs from the brain's desire to fulfill its emotional needs (right brain). Logic springs from the left brain's need to be organized and rational - it is concerned with the detail of the material world - the right brain likes a big picture way of perceiving the world. The right brain speaks through emotion - the left brain speaks through the rationality of language.

  Belief satisfies our emotional need to stay connected to the material world
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  God is Real in Principle

  by looter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  looter: Besides, believers think not believing is irrational so it really is just a different mode of thinking.

  Yes. It certainly is a different way of thinking.

  The difference between rationality and irrationality is that rationality does not require belief.

  Think of it this way - it is like going to watch a movie. Our rational minds know that the images, music, plot, characters on the screen are fictitious. In order to engage in the experience of being entertained by the movie, the spectators have to suspend their disbelief.

  That is what makes a rational person into a "believer" - the suspension of their disbelief. And that is a conscious choice
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  God is Real in Principle

  by looter in

  1. jw
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  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  looter: It pains me that you think that...

  Well, to add to your pain, I have to agree with many of the other posters here. I think that your OP is a word salad that lacks coherence. I think that this reflects the level of frustration you are experiencing in trying to reconcile irrationality with the rational world
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  God is Real in Principle

  by looter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  looter: OrphanCrow, how dare you believe...

  Looter, I can dare to believe whatever I want. Seriously

  I have no limits to what I can chose

  It is called freedom of mind
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  God is Real in Principle

  by looter in

  1. jw
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  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  You think I am using insulting language and you don't think Cofty is

  Excuse me?

  Are you a mind reader? Is this thread about physic abilities? Sorry...I shouldn't be here. I don't discuss mind reading abilities

  Carry on...my mistake
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  God is Real in Principle

  by looter in

  1. jw
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  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  Um...maybe not make references to other people's 'intelligence'? And pass judgement on those observations?
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  God is Real in Principle

  by looter in

  1. jw
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  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  kate: Some people like Cofty, are very intelligent in a lot of ways, but may not understand you because they are less able to see your perspective as they have their own perspective they are happy with.

  That is a condescending statement

  Insulting, in fact
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  Jehovah's Witnesses and racial prejudice by Werner Cohn

  by slimboyfat in

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  race is asserting itself as a problematic issue united states once more.

  i always thought jws had a relatively good track record on race.

  they preach a world without prejudice after all.

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  rebelfighter: Which then leads to my next question if the WT eventually caved into societies view of equality of racial differences then why have they stood so firm on women being the under dog and staying in submission to men?

  Because women being given power would mean that the less than 50% who hold power would be threatened. Women are not a minority. Giving them power would threaten the male only power base

  The WTS men in power have a problem with their concept of masculinity - it is very fragile