or maybe not so surprising after all, you be the judge....
Zappa: I read on this forum some time back that he was adopted and his real name was Tony Esposito ? Anyone heard similarly?
Rumor. That was also debunked on this forum.
Lots of rumors about this particular member of the 7 dwarf team. Lots of threads and bits of info scattered around on this forum. He is a conundrum or maybe chameleon is a better term
There was a thread some time ago that investigated Tony's military claims but I can't find it right now. It was a good thread
now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.
now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.
our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.
looter:...if I were to inherently say the topic at hand, the backlash might be worse. It was made in a way that I hoped people understood and some did. But the problem is that the ones that didn't insist on deducing me to get them to understand when they just don't and it's clear to me.
So you admit that you were deliberately obtuse about the topic. You deliberately created a word salad, in order to mask your 'real' topic, so that you could avoid some anticipated backlash. And now you believe the problem arises because some of us don't buy into your deceptive behavior. Apparently some do...they must be the ones who use similar tactics of deception
Okay. Got it. It's clear to me too. It always was.
now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.
now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.
our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.
now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.
now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.
our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.
looter: I just said I wasn't blaming anyone. We just see things differently.
Looter, you have done this throughout this entire thread. Blame shifting. Denying responsibility. You aren't stupid - you just lack a sense of self.
Every time someone asks you to clarify a term or explain yourself better, you simply say "...oh, that's not what I meant. YOU misunderstood." At no time have you said, "oh, geez, I guess I didn't understand the terms I have used." You have just continued to say "...I didn't mean that! That word actually is a different word."
When someone questions you about a "claim"...you say "...that's not a claim, it an opinion". When someone questions you about a complaint...you say " it wasn't a complaint, it was a reason."
And on and on and on....
Looter, you have not answered questions about your statements, you have simply substituted another word when confronted with a term you lack the capacity to comprehend.
And your justification for this irrational behaviour? "Seeing" differently.
Well, Looter....you can continue to call it a tuna fish sandwich if you like, but, if it has four legs, walks low to the ground, is black with a white stripe running down its back...it ain't no friggin tuna fish sandwich. Your nose should tell you that even if you "see" differently.
And this whole whiny bit about "I am only 18." Let's put it this way...if ya belly up to the bar with the big boys, be prepared to deal with what the big boys pour out for you. I am not buying your "schtick". Joined this forum at 15, huh? And you still haven't learned anything these past 3 years?
so let's just say that the wt org is now finished.
families with da/df members are now reunited.
everyone is burning their med directive cards.
Will there be pandas?
or maybe not so surprising after all, you be the judge....
No surprise. I have been wondering when that link would be made.
millie: Has it ever been determined if there are financial links between Morris and his wealthy family?
I would think that within prestigious wealthy families that financial connections are less important than the political/power positioning that the name gets you.
Think of Nathan Knorr and his ease of travel, during and immediately after WW2, between the States and Germany, and Knorr's family connections to the German food giant - Knorr Foods. Money may not have passed hands (it probably did*) but the name certainly could have opened doors for Knorr and his publishing company.
*to add - my assumption about money being involved is based upon the articles in the old Consolation and Golden Age magazines that claimed that powdered foods were likely going to be the new food for the millennium. Knorr used the magazines as advertisement
i think i'm just ornery when it comes to equality.
ever since i can remember, i've always believed that all people were created equal.
the colour of a person's skin is irrelevent to me.
It is about respect, Simon. Respect for others, pure and simple.
And...hyperbole won't cut it. I said nothing about attempted murder. I am not going to get entangled in hyperbole diversion tactics. Sorry....thanks for the chat. :)
i think i'm just ornery when it comes to equality.
ever since i can remember, i've always believed that all people were created equal.
the colour of a person's skin is irrelevent to me.
I think you are confusing people being civil and not bigoted or misogynistic (or whatever) with what most people think of as "stupid political correctness" which is when it's gone overboard and used to try and silence people or just ruin someone else's time.
I don't think I am confusing the two, Simon. It is all part of the same package.
You give the example of "...it's also politically incorrect to say happy christmas to people when it's intended with no malice or insult." This example just highlights the ignorance of those who believe that their intentions are exemplary and because of that, that their actions are justifiable regardless of how those actions effect anyone else. It reminds me of someone who drives a transport truck through my garden because it is the shortest route for them and then says "...oh, but I didn't mean to kill your garden! I was trying to miss the potatoes and I didn't hit the peas! Be grateful for small mercies..."
So what if no malice is intended? It is the consequences to others that are important. Political correctness isn't about you...it is about the ones who are marginalized/silenced by dominant culture.
now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.
now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.
our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.
looter: ...That was said because you don't seem to understand beliefs can be both rational and irrational. It's really at the foundation where someone's head is. Not sure if you refuse this observation or just don't believe in it.
I wasn't going to post anymore on this thread because whatever I say seems to be redundant...however....
Looter, you are absolutely right that I don't understand things the same as you. I do not understand rationality/irrationality as being beliefs like you do.
Belief is a concept that is separate but still related to rationality/irrationality. The process of believing is based upon those two concepts of rationality/irrationality...but belief itself is not the same thing.
You can have a belief that is based upon rational thinking but that does not make the act of choosing belief a rational one. Choosing belief is an irrational act - our brain would like to deceive itself into thinking that the belief itself is rational - because it is based upon a logical, rational workup to that place of decision (whether to believe or not), but that final leap of faith - that choice to believe - is in and of itself, an irrational act.
Belief is not necessary when proof is available. Therefore, belief is always about what cannot be proven. Ergo...the need for the irrational mind to justify the acceptance of what cannot be proven. And the brain uses the rational part of itself to do just that.
i think i'm just ornery when it comes to equality.
ever since i can remember, i've always believed that all people were created equal.
the colour of a person's skin is irrelevent to me.
Political correctness causes discomfort in the privileged classes.
Sure...go ahead and dump political correctness. It is one of the least understood social concepts of its time and the claims that it has out served its purpose may be valid.
What do we replace it with? Or, do we not replace it and just try to maintain the status quo so that people of privilege can maintain their comfort level?
Okay...no more 'political correctness'. Back to the 60s it is...one step forward and two back. Typical of the human species - fearful of any change that can be perceived as threatening their social status. It is a wonder that we have survived this long
Damn, I wish they would hurry up with that space exploration stuff. We need a new planet so that those of privilege, who own this planet, can stay here and all of us who support the rights of marganilized people can go to a new one. Send us off to space to re-start this pitiful human species. You can have this damned earth
