Posts by OrphanCrow

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Keep the meeting going! (even if somebody's dying)

by TimeBandit in

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this is a true story.

it's about a sister named henriette venema.

she was a very loyal jw.

OrphanCrow

startingover: Everyone sat there watching as he was being worked on, even as the EMT's came onto the stage

That would have been quite the spectacle

Unbelievable - the audience sits and watches a real life drama unfold in front of them. Sits and watches

I find that to be very disrespectful. Handled in the best way possible??? No. Not at all. Giving the poor fellow some privacy should have been right up there on the list of priorities. Letting him be the center of entertainment is really f***ing nuts

Dismiss the audience...postpone the meeting...make a human wall/curtain around the poor guy. Give him and his family privacy. But no, let it become a public spectacle instead. How incredibly unemphatic

And WTF? His daughter didn't go with him??? She stayed at the meeting? Why wasn't she at Daddy's deathbed saying goodbye?

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After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).

by quincemyles in

after jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.

the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.

jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.

OrphanCrow

saename: Yes, I'm aware of his credentials.

oh

So your definition of "serious scholar" is simply measured by whether or not his position supports yours

You really need to attend a good university (not one of those 'christian' ones that employ only scholars that agree with their 'christian' theology). I mean a real university. One that employs people who have legitimate credentials like Dr. Carrier

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After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).

by quincemyles in

after jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.

the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.

jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.

OrphanCrow

Saename: there "is a freaking reason why there is not a single scholar who is employed at a university or college who teaches any relative field to Christianity and who doesn't believe that Jesus existed"

I will add my encouragement to Cofty's. Yes, please do attend university. And after you graduate, re-visit this statement

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Keep the meeting going! (even if somebody's dying)

by TimeBandit in

jw
friends

this is a true story.

it's about a sister named henriette venema.

she was a very loyal jw.

OrphanCrow

VI: I would figure that a person giving a talk when that would, right there and then, have called on the congregation to pray for the person having the stroke instead of pretending that nothing had happened

Yeah..but I remember the general consensus in the congregation that I attended was that praying for the sick was almost like "faith healing" and it was only those demon infested fake Christians who did that

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Are hot springs and saunas approved by the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses?

by jwleaks in

satan’s snares today.

in the main, satan’s tricks have not changed over the centuries.

in order for christians living in the corrupt city of corinth not to be “overreached by satan,” the apostle paul gave them strong counsel.

OrphanCrow

Geez

This reminds me of David Berg only allowing his followers to 3 squares of toilet paper

Sheesh. What's next? A prohibition on tampons? Why hasn't the WTS addressed that problem?? Yup...they need a new article: "Sisters, Chose your Sanitary Products Wisely and with a Godly Conscience"

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Debunking the WT blood myths - how safe are blood transfusions? What are the REAL risks?

by OrphanCrow in

(thank you to the reddit poster - fuzzycatpotato - for posting this on reddit).

this is so excellent.

the person(s) who compiled this data has done a great job *fuzzycat did it!.

OrphanCrow

(Thank you to the reddit poster - FuzzyCatPotato - for posting this on reddit)

This is SO excellent. The person(s) who compiled this data has done a great job *FuzzyCat did it!

This information needs to be circulated far and wide

The WT has got away with spreading lies and manufacturing myths about blood for far too long

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Blood_Transfusions:_How_Safe#cite_note-Krev-29

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

OrphanCrow

ruby: an emphais on facts can be as unfactual as non facts sometimes and peeps who like to tell other people they are talking nonsense are pretty much often talking nonsense themselves

Image result for homer simpson facts are meaningless

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Exit therapist

by Beachlover in

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i am having quite a bit of trouble leaving and fading.

does anyone have recommendations of an exit therapist?

it doesn't matter where they are located, i need to get out physically, mentally, and emotionally.

OrphanCrow

Giordano: While you are searching for one may I direct your attention to Eric Hoffer who wrote The True Believer. While he never mentions the WTBTS he defines similar groups in broad strokes by describing what they try to do to their followers.

Excellent book

Hoffer identifies the 'stripping away of self' as a primary feature of cult/mass movement techniques that are employed to capture followers. A follower becomes a true believer by disengaging from their own, personal identity, and replacing that with the cult's identity

It is the loss of self that keeps people captive inside ideological groups and it is the discovery of self that is the antidote

That is why this comment is inappropriate and not helpful:

perry: Thomas saith unto him, ... how can we know the way? Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Perry, Beachlover needs to find herself, not some imaginary father in the sky

The way to freedom is by developing a sense of self, not by remaining dependent upon a mythical existence in some imaginary future or an imaginary being. The more a person is comfortable with their own being, dependence upon others' ideology becomes redundant.

Good luck, beachlover. You can do this

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