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  Keep the meeting going! (even if somebody's dying)

  by TimeBandit in

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  this is a true story.

  it's about a sister named henriette venema.

  she was a very loyal jw.

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  Tenacious: I believe I heard mom say he would beat the sister and tried to keep her from attending. You would think the idiot brothers would tell her to cooperate with him but instead probably pushed her to fight him in order to attend. Boy oh boy.

  Boy oh boy is right

  You would think the idiot brothers would have known that telling a woman to cooperate with an man who beats her is a stupid thing to say

  The woman needed, first of all, the police, and then domestic violence counselling and a safe place to get away from him. No woman should be told to cooperate as a way of solving family violence issues

  
  
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  JW and the Sabbath

  by Andromeda in

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  hello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.

  i am an active jehovah's witness.

  i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.

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  TheWonderofYou: Is the NWT really the only bible that gives in Gal. 6,16 the impression that christians replace Israel and are now the new Israel of God ?

  That is really easy to check, Wonder.

  The Bible Hub lists many different translations on their website - an easy google search

  http://biblehub.com/galatians/6-16.htm

  You will note that the NWT is not included in this lengthy list of bible translations/versions
  

  Either interpretation of the verse can be found depending upon which bible you chose to read
  
  
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  Keep the meeting going! (even if somebody's dying)

  by TimeBandit in

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  this is a true story.

  it's about a sister named henriette venema.

  she was a very loyal jw.

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  startingover: His daughter did not stay, that was just her initial reaction. She went to be with him as did his other daughter.

  Thanks for clarifying that. Sorry... I reacted strongly - these stories of callousness are a bit disheartening and it is good to know he had his family with him

  It really is awful how this religion can remove normal human reactions from its followers. It has a twisted way of looking at death - most JWs seem to be numb to human tragedy. Maybe it is the exposure to vivid, violent images of death and dying at Armageddon that is responsible for their inappropriate or non response to real suffering right in front of them. They have been desensitized

  
  
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  Paranormal Warning

  by Cold Steel in

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  i've heard some weird stories coming from jws about the paranormal.

  i know about the warnings about items that come from unbelievers -- those don't interest me as much.

  what i am interested in are actual experiences in stories of the paranormal you've heard or experienced yourself.

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  cold steel: Oh, you'd be a lot of fun at a campout!

  What the heck is that supposed to mean?? I am great on a campout...I think. Oh...maybe not. I just remembered my last camping trip...

  You may say here and now that you wouldn't mind being locked into an abandoned prison or asylum to spend the night, but if it came down to it, we'd probably all chicken out rather than do it.

  Lol! Actually, I have done this. Seriously. I spent the night, with a group of paranormal investigators, inside an old TB sanatorium. It had been abandoned for years. Apparently, it is claimed to be one the highest paranormal sites in Canada.

  We split into two groups and I was with the group that sat inside the overflow morgue with the lights off - we were looking for "Mr. Stiffy" - the undertaker that was said to hang out there on occasion. Fun times
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  Exit therapist

  by Beachlover in

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  i am having quite a bit of trouble leaving and fading.

  does anyone have recommendations of an exit therapist?

  it doesn't matter where they are located, i need to get out physically, mentally, and emotionally.

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  Perry, your comments are not appropriate on this thread. I realize that Jesus works for you....but the OP was an inquiry about "exit therapists". As much as you believe that Jesus is a therapist...he isn't.

  If the title of this thread, or the OP, suggested that what was needed was religious advice, your religious advice would be welcome. They didn't. Their concern was genuine and your comments serve to derail an important topic. And, you know this. So I find your comments to be insensitive to the poster who started this thread and to the people who have responded sincerely
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  Paranormal Warning

  by Cold Steel in

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  i've heard some weird stories coming from jws about the paranormal.

  i know about the warnings about items that come from unbelievers -- those don't interest me as much.

  what i am interested in are actual experiences in stories of the paranormal you've heard or experienced yourself.

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  cold steel: Are these simply my imagination? Are they reflective anomolies of light and nothing more? Or are they images of the past?

  Yes. They are reflective anomalies of light.

  You had mentioned negatives. Analog film is only sensitive to the visible light spectrum (unless it is specialty film such as infared sensitive). If you cannot see something with your naked eye, neither can the camera - the film only records what is in the visible light spectrum. Any anomalies that the film captures are simply the result of optics...nothing more (*except chemical processes). And the interpretation of those anomalies are influenced by the phenomena described in the link Cofty provided
  
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  Keep the meeting going! (even if somebody's dying)

  by TimeBandit in

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  this is a true story.

  it's about a sister named henriette venema.

  she was a very loyal jw.

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  startingover: Everyone sat there watching as he was being worked on, even as the EMT's came onto the stage

  That would have been quite the spectacle

  Unbelievable - the audience sits and watches a real life drama unfold in front of them. Sits and watches

  I find that to be very disrespectful. Handled in the best way possible??? No. Not at all. Giving the poor fellow some privacy should have been right up there on the list of priorities. Letting him be the center of entertainment is really f***ing nuts

  Dismiss the audience...postpone the meeting...make a human wall/curtain around the poor guy. Give him and his family privacy. But no, let it become a public spectacle instead. How incredibly unemphatic

  And WTF? His daughter didn't go with him??? She stayed at the meeting? Why wasn't she at Daddy's deathbed saying goodbye?

  
  
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  After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).

  by quincemyles in

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  after jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.

  the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.

  jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.

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  saename: Yes, I'm aware of his credentials.

  oh

  So your definition of "serious scholar" is simply measured by whether or not his position supports yours

  You really need to attend a good university (not one of those 'christian' ones that employ only scholars that agree with their 'christian' theology). I mean a real university. One that employs people who have legitimate credentials like Dr. Carrier
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  After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).

  by quincemyles in

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  after jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.

  the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.

  jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.

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  Saename: there "is a freaking reason why there is not a single scholar who is employed at a university or college who teaches any relative field to Christianity and who doesn't believe that Jesus existed"

  I will add my encouragement to Cofty's. Yes, please do attend university. And after you graduate, re-visit this statement

  
  
  
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  Keep the meeting going! (even if somebody's dying)

  by TimeBandit in

  1. jw
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  this is a true story.

  it's about a sister named henriette venema.

  she was a very loyal jw.

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  VI: I would figure that a person giving a talk when that would, right there and then, have called on the congregation to pray for the person having the stroke instead of pretending that nothing had happened

  Yeah..but I remember the general consensus in the congregation that I attended was that praying for the sick was almost like "faith healing" and it was only those demon infested fake Christians who did that