Posts by OrphanCrow

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Blood card

by Inabunker in

hi new to forum and first post!

i have been reading posts on and off for years.

still fighting my "doubts" and struggling internally, my family is active and the wife knows nothing of my late night website reads here.

OrphanCrow

Inabunker: ...I remember reading the HLC can have parents sign a form to allow the hospital to give their children blood, under the doctors conscious?

Yes, you are correct.

In Canada, the HLC have arranged for JW parents to sign a "Letter of Understanding" that allows a hospital to administer blood transfusions to their children if necessary.

The letter of understanding can be found at this link here:

http://ajwrb.org/science/blood-transfusion-letter-of-understanding

And a National Post article from 4 years ago about that same issue:

http://news.nationalpost.com/holy-post/without-fanfare-jehovahs-witnesses-quietly-soften-position-on-blood-transfusions

Note the tile of that article: "Without Fanfare..."

Without fanfare is right, it is done so quietly that the JW parents themselves don't know that the HLC will do this. It is a practice that is only done in certain locations to avoid legal issues - it does not mean that the WTS cares about the child's life - they care about avoiding a legal battle that they can't win

*to add...forgot to say hello. And welcome :)

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Just calling on our neighbours with a friendly message - Too Late! You Had Your Chance! You're All Gonna DIE!

by LifesNotOver in

... and by the way - love your house!

i've always wanted one just like it!.

feeling bitter this morning.

OrphanCrow

Lifesnotover: But "You and everyone you love and everyone in the whole world (except for us wonderful righteous JW's who are going to survive and live on a paradise earth) are shortly going to die a horrible terrible terrifying painful death at the hands of Jehovah God and be dead forever more. See, like in this picture! And you can't do anything about it now. Too bad, so sad!" How could anyone in their right mind think that was an okay thing to do?

Good point. They are not in their right mind.

The twist to all of this is that preaching is sold as "saving souls" when in actuality, saving other peoples' souls has dick all to do with it. The JWs preach to save their own skin. It is completely and wholly a self centered exercise. Saving others is just the excuse they use to fool themselves, thinking that it makes them altruistic but all it does is confirm their own importance

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Woman's Purpose

by StopTheTears in

jw
friends

i'm probably going to say some things here that will disappoint many.

there are some that may look back over the years and say "man i really blew it" i'm not writing the following to scold for failures, but rather to help those who are young enough to put into practice what god wills for their life, and also to those of us who are in our middle years that still have time to change some things, in order to please god and find a peace that only being in his will can bring.

first let me say that god didn't create man for you.

OrphanCrow

vidiot: Are we being Poe's-Lawed?

Possibly

Or Stopthetears is just a JW trying to get their time in.

The other day I was walking in the park and almost stepped in a pile of dog shit. Stopthetears is like that...the dog owner who didn't take bags with them to pick up the shit. The dog owner who doesn't care who steps in their pile of shit

Check out STT's posting history...maybe they are a dog...(s)he takes a dump and walks away...hoping others will get shit on their shoes

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Mega-Church buys JW Assembly Hall property in Indianapolis

by OrphanCrow in

and yet another sale of watchtower property.... http://www.ibj.com/articles/59973-suburban-mega-church-expanding-into-downtown-with-big-purchase.

suburban megachurch expanding into downtown with big purchasea historic church building at the corner of 12th and delaware streets has been purchased by a large congregation expanding into the downtown area.. traders point christian church in whitestown is spending $2 million to renovate the 35,300-square-foot structure and should have it ready for worship early next year, rev.

james stanley said.. the neoclassical, limestone building has been used as a place of worship since it was built in 1912 and had been owned by the jehovah’s witnesses since 1978.. the location at 1201 n. delaware st., across from the benjamin harrison presidential site, will be the third for traders point.

OrphanCrow

Overlapping: Two kingdom halls in neighboring towns are churches now...

The last time I visited my home town, my mother told me that the congregation had been split and moved to two other towns. The Kingdom Hall is now a church - some kind of born-again and speaking in tongues kind of church

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Mega-Church buys JW Assembly Hall property in Indianapolis

by OrphanCrow in

and yet another sale of watchtower property.... http://www.ibj.com/articles/59973-suburban-mega-church-expanding-into-downtown-with-big-purchase.

suburban megachurch expanding into downtown with big purchasea historic church building at the corner of 12th and delaware streets has been purchased by a large congregation expanding into the downtown area.. traders point christian church in whitestown is spending $2 million to renovate the 35,300-square-foot structure and should have it ready for worship early next year, rev.

james stanley said.. the neoclassical, limestone building has been used as a place of worship since it was built in 1912 and had been owned by the jehovah’s witnesses since 1978.. the location at 1201 n. delaware st., across from the benjamin harrison presidential site, will be the third for traders point.

OrphanCrow

darkspliver: Well the QB doesn't quite say that...

Yeah...we are all familiar with the "not quite saying something".

The WT is always like that...they always talk out of the side of their mouth.

"oh...that doesn't mean what you think it does...we didn't really say exactly that..."

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The End of False Religion Is Near! HAHAHA

by tootired2care in

memories!

i remember a few years back being involved in the campaign work, and having the distinctly awkward experience of having to hand the householders this piece of sh1t tract "the end of false religion is near!"..

i recall the discomfort i had trying to get into a conversation about this nonsense.

OrphanCrow

averagejoe: I would think they dont go door to door in this crazy heat spending their own money on the preaching work because they hate people and want to see them die. just my 2 cents.

The JWs don't go door to door to save other people

They are doing it to save themselves

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How do I post images from computer?

by compound complex in

i am trying to remove link ........................................................ sorry, simon:.

posted something else in error, trying to get images up.

when i post images from pc, the photo shows, but the wheel spins indefinitely.

OrphanCrow

Coco, have you tried to just copy and paste your image into the text box?

I have had problems loading images in the past, too, and I have found that smaller images load better

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Mega-Church buys JW Assembly Hall property in Indianapolis

by OrphanCrow in

and yet another sale of watchtower property.... http://www.ibj.com/articles/59973-suburban-mega-church-expanding-into-downtown-with-big-purchase.

suburban megachurch expanding into downtown with big purchasea historic church building at the corner of 12th and delaware streets has been purchased by a large congregation expanding into the downtown area.. traders point christian church in whitestown is spending $2 million to renovate the 35,300-square-foot structure and should have it ready for worship early next year, rev.

james stanley said.. the neoclassical, limestone building has been used as a place of worship since it was built in 1912 and had been owned by the jehovah’s witnesses since 1978.. the location at 1201 n. delaware st., across from the benjamin harrison presidential site, will be the third for traders point.

OrphanCrow

And yet another sale of Watchtower property...

http://www.ibj.com/articles/59973-suburban-mega-church-expanding-into-downtown-with-big-purchase

Suburban megachurch expanding into downtown with big purchase
A historic church building at the corner of 12th and Delaware streets has been purchased by a large congregation expanding into the downtown area.
Traders Point Christian Church in Whitestown is spending $2 million to renovate the 35,300-square-foot structure and should have it ready for worship early next year, Rev. James Stanley said.
The neoclassical, limestone building has been used as a place of worship since it was built in 1912 and had been owned by The Jehovah’s Witnesses since 1978.
The location at 1201 N. Delaware St., across from the Benjamin Harrison Presidential Site, will be the third for Traders Point. The congregation turned to downtown following its entrance into Carmel in January and quickly homed in on the Jehovah’s facility.
“We could not believe the pristine, well-maintained condition of the building,” Stanley said. “It was like everyone’s jaw dropped, with a building that old, how well-maintained it had been.”
The building includes a 1,200-seat auditorium renovated in 1995. That’s a little larger than what Traders Point needs. But the church likely will reduce the space somewhat to better fit its plans of hosting multiple services at different times.
Still, the structure’s overall size meets the congregation’s “prototype of what we’re looking for,” Stanley said.
Interior work will be done to bring the space up to Traders Point standards.
“The biggest portion of renovations will be to make it look like our brand,” he said. “The difference is, it’s got some historic features; we’re trying to respect that.”

*Read rest of article at link

**suggestion...this forum should have a section just for all the WT's real estate deals

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Past Watchtower Claims

by Giordano in

i’ve been reviewing the scientific claims that the society promoted through the golden age magazine (later replaced by the awake).. each statement comes from an official publication of the wtbts.

while this material goes back many years so do jw’s beliefs that were and still are promoted as the ‘truth’.. a more up to date account of jw science and medicine and many other great topics........ can be found on jwfacts.com.

the science of the watchtower plus an occasional face palm i couldn’t resist.. “color and physiognomy..........a blue nose..... is a symbol of austerity, with perhaps a prudish tinge.....the size of the nose, as also the size of the eyes, is not without significance.

OrphanCrow

Giordano, the Golden Age magazines are a treasure trove of weird and wacky ideas. The medical advice is pretty much all anti-AMA propaganda and fueled by the abundance of alternative practitioners who supported the WTS

I particularly like this medical advice that appeared in a 1912 Watchtower (their wacky ideas were firmly planted by the time the Golden Age appeared):

CURE FOR APPENDICITIS

It is known that only about three out of every one hundred

operated upon for appendicitis really have a diseased appendix

needing removal. We give below a simple cure for appendicitis

symptoms. The pain in the appendix region is caused by

the biting of worms near the junction of the transverse colon

with the small intestines, low down on the right side of the

abdomen.

This remedy is recommended also for typhoid fever, which

is also a worm disease. The medicine is Santonine: dose, 3

grains, an hour before breakfast; repeated for four mornings,

or until all the symptoms disappear. Then one dose per month

for three months to eradicate all germs.

This recipe is of incalculable value. Not only will it save

the surgeon's and hospital fees of perhaps $200, but it saves

weeks of ill health, inconvenience, convalescence and loss of

salary.

The Watchtower - January 15, 1912

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Incredible cover of book published in 1932

by Truthexplorer in

ok, i am reading through the book the watchtower and the masons by fritz spring meier which i am finding a fascinating read; and discovered that judge rutherford published the book 'cause of death'.

what is incredible is the book cover.

the book was published in 1932 which would have been a little bit more eye catching back then.

OrphanCrow

dropoff: I don't recall this book, are we sure it was WT published? or was it a booklet or tract?

It was a WT published pamphlet.

In 1932, right after the Jehovah's Witness religion was founded in 1931, Rutherford published a series of 12 pamphlets (one each month). All 12 can be downloaded here:

http://wtarchive.svhelden.info/english/books-and-tracts/

The illustrations for all 12 pamphlets are done in the same style

The WT went on to publish many tracts and pamphlets leading up to and during WW2 - they are also available for download at that link*

* "Loyalty", published in 1935, would be an interesting pamphlet to dissect and compare to today's WT writings on loyalty. The 1935 pamphlet focused on the flag salute...I wonder what legal issue they are resisting this time?